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At 3/15/08 12:33 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Buffy's latest experience reminded me of my beloved Xena for some reason.

Because even if you only barely knew what the show was about (like me!) you could still pick up on the overtones and go "are those two fucking?" when it came to Xena and Gabrielle. I always thought there was more to those Hercules crossovers then just cross-pollination and better ratings grabbing for both :)

At 3/16/08 12:36 AM, Mr-Silv3r wrote: Did she yodel whilst kicking people?

Are you making fun of the musical episode? Because if you are, we gotta throw the hell down. I love that episode.

Every song on there is great. I never stop laughing at the funny in the fast cut from Tarah finishing her song when it's like "you make me..." somehow, I don't think she was going to say "complete" there :)

At 3/16/08 01:17 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Every song on there is great. I never stop laughing at the funny in the fast cut from Tarah finishing her song when it's like "you make me..." somehow, I don't think she was going to say "complete" there :)

Nah, I think he's talking about did buffy make a lot of noise like Xena did.

I don't think he's seen that episode.

I have, only because you were talking about it so much I said, I must watch this buffy musical.

See? Don't you feel powerful???

For months I couldn't help but have "once more with feeling" reccomended to me and now that I search for it it's nowhere to be found. Damn powers that be. Because we'd aliante viewers and probably censors if we said God.

At 3/16/08 07:23 PM, stafffighter wrote: For months I couldn't help but have "once more with feeling" reccomended to me and now that I search for it it's nowhere to be found. Damn powers that be. Because we'd aliante viewers and probably censors if we said God.

I believe season 4 of Angel made it quite clear that there was more then one force running the cosmic show. That there were contingents of good and evil powers on all sides.

Re-reading Exiles now that I got the last volume before the restart, I'm not sure I'll pick up the new one, as it seems Claremont has dropped any semblance of the original team that kicked off this book.

At 3/16/08 06:55 PM, SevenSeize wrote: See? Don't you feel powerful???

Yes, for that, and...other reasons ;)

I've seen the episode (and the whole series, I mean what else are you going to do in a year off from school?), and it was okay. Not great, but then, that's just my opinion, as I really don't like musicals (despite having worked backstage for many of them, and ALWAYS getting their songs in my head for no reason). I didn't really like the Scrubs episode that did it too, although at least it was alot shorter.

When it comes to songs on TV Shows, nothing will ever beat Robot Hell off Futurama.

This thread is starting to devolve towards the way of the forums. This is supposed to be about comics kids :)

I'm looking for some comics to subscribe to, as this seems to be like half price to what I would normally pay. Trouble is, I don't know what to get.

Any suggestions? I'm already getting Cable, Thor and Hulk. But was thinking of getting into some DC / Vertigo. But really, anything you think is worth mentioning is welcome.

Justice Society of America has been very good since the relaunch. Shadowpact is a fun title. Um...let's see what else do I read...hmmm...give me some time and I might think up more.

Oh, can't go wrong with Daredevil.

I bought Watchmen and some Ghostrider stuff today.

Hacen't read Watchmen yet, but Ghostrider was plain awesome ( it was written by Ennis though so s too be expected). The artwork was utterly superb. It was like the guy who drew it looked in my head took everything I like and put it into a picture of a dude on a motorbike with a flaming skull for a head.

I do have one problem with it though, the way Ghostrider was portrayed by Ennis didn't quite work to an extent. Not sure what it was, but there was something slightly off about it. Nothing major but something small I can't put my finger on.

At 3/18/08 12:53 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:

Haven't read Watchmen yet.

That book is gonna blow your mind.

At 3/18/08 06:27 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 3/18/08 12:53 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:

Haven't read Watchmen yet.

That book is gonna blow your mind.

Rorschach is infinitely more cool than everyone else in that book combined.

Can I join?

At 3/18/08 12:53 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:
I do have one problem with it though, the way Ghostrider was portrayed by Ennis didn't quite work to an extent. Not sure what it was, but there was something slightly off about it. Nothing major but something small I can't put my finger on.

All of a sudden Johny Blaze was a lot more conserned with the violence in northern Ireland?
I'm a big Ennis fan but the man has his themes.

Avie is right about daredevil. I just got the colelction "hell to pay" and there was one panel that summed up the post civil war marvel universe.
A rookie cop was about to shoot at the man without regestration and his partner said "You're not from around here. New law or not if you shoot at Daredevil you better put one in me."

Well then, add DD to the list I guess.

Anyone got anything else?

At 3/18/08 08:42 PM, stafffighter wrote: All of a sudden Johny Blaze was a lot more conserned with the violence in northern Ireland?
I'm a big Ennis fan but the man has his themes.

Not quite :P

There was something about Ghostrider that suggested that he SHOULD be more self serving. Being trapped in hell and ripped to shreds each night by demons and then being remade so it can happen again the next night should make people bitter, self serving and resentful. In short, it should make Ghostrider more of an anti-hero. Ennis, whilst not doing anything explicit kind of made it feel like that wasn't the case though and it kind of annoyed me.

Well here's the thing. Ghost Rider is fighting pretty much directly against the devil. That might give him a little more insentive than can be understood outwardly.
This is what I love about characters with direct dies to these religous themes. RIght and wrong aren't abstract subjects to them. They operate with this certianty that there is a final reward or punishment because more often than not they've been there a few times.
Anyone to bring up the avenging angel Punisher will also become well aquainted.

At 3/18/08 06:27 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 3/18/08 12:53 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:

Haven't read Watchmen yet.

That book is gonna blow your mind.

I have just started Watchmen and confess my mind is currently being blown.

At 3/19/08 09:00 PM, SevenSeize wrote: I have just started Watchmen and confess my mind is currently being blown.

Excellent...it's all going according to plan....

To be honest, when reading Watchmen for the first time, my mind was just "eh" until about 3/4's of the way through it. Then everything came together and I was like "THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER".

Now every time I re-read it I get the "best comic evar" feeling the whole way through, and it's even more gratifying when you haven't read it in ages, and forget little parts of the story, and discover them all over again.

At 3/20/08 12:20 AM, Mr-Silv3r wrote: To be honest, when reading Watchmen for the first time, my mind was just "eh" until about 3/4's of the way through it. Then everything came together and I was like "THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER".

Now every time I re-read it I get the "best comic evar" feeling the whole way through, and it's even more gratifying when you haven't read it in ages, and forget little parts of the story, and discover them all over again.

I'm hoping to get my reading done over Easter break.

It's going to be hard for anything I read to take the place of Sandman. I fell in love with that series.

At 3/20/08 10:53 PM, SevenSeize wrote: It's going to be hard for anything I read to take the place of Sandman. I fell in love with that series.

Alan Moore is a lot like Neil Gaiman in terms of writing. Though where Neil is more straight fantasy stuff, I think Alan is a bit more well rounded and such. That was a very political point in his career when he did Watchmen. Definitely a trifecta in that period of heavy political stuff with Miracleman, Watchmen, and V for Vendetta. Though Miracleman isn't as heavy with it as Watchmen or V.

At 3/20/08 11:58 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 3/20/08 10:53 PM, SevenSeize wrote: It's going to be hard for anything I read to take the place of Sandman. I fell in love with that series.

Alan Moore is a lot like Neil Gaiman in terms of writing. Though where Neil is more straight fantasy stuff, I think Alan is a bit more well rounded and such. That was a very political point in his career when he did Watchmen. Definitely a trifecta in that period of heavy political stuff with Miracleman, Watchmen, and V for Vendetta. Though Miracleman isn't as heavy with it as Watchmen or V.

Well, I'm not well rounded and a bit more into fantasy. lol

But if it's got a political feel to it, I will probably like it. I enjoy politics. I've only read like 2 pages. Need moar free time.

At 3/21/08 09:59 AM, SevenSeize wrote: But if it's got a political feel to it, I will probably like it. I enjoy politics. I've only read like 2 pages. Need moar free time.

Yesh, free time is always good.

Just hit the Chuck Austen point on Exiles...god, I forgot how bad some of the stuff this guy did was. "I'm going to kill you Danny and Luke. Because my sister from an alternate reality said we all need to die, so it must be true!!!" Stupid alternate reality Colossus....very stupid...

Just started reading Watchmen.

Am somewhere in between mind blowing awesomeness and 'wtf?'. The whole bit with Doc Manhattan on Mars looking into the past in the present kind of lost me slightly... he's supposed to be able to contorl atomic structure right? So the fact he can view time implies that on some level time, like everything else is a solid item with ana tomic structure...that makes no sense O_o

Cracking read though. should finish it off tomorrow if I get the chanc ein between my essay research.

I also started to sort out my dads old comic collection which I've inherited. My living room floor was filled with comics to the point we couldn't move without stepping on them. He has far too many issues of Thor, The Avengers ( of which we found issues 1 and 2 in the collection), the Fantastic Four and Iron Man.

At 3/24/08 05:51 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Am somewhere in between mind blowing awesomeness and 'wtf?'. The whole bit with Doc Manhattan on Mars looking into the past in the present kind of lost me slightly... he's supposed to be able to contorl atomic structure right? So the fact he can view time implies that on some level time, like everything else is a solid item with ana tomic structure...that makes no sense O_o

What blew my mind was the idea that for him, he is like everywhere in his own personal timeline at once. He's living not just the current moment, but past moments, and future moments at once...I can't even begin to imagine what the hell that's like.

Your comments about Thor straight after talking about Dr Manhatten put this into my head: Dr M is essentially Odin. An all powerful god, still restrained to the whims of the Fates.

What got me was how the atomic particles (can't look them up right now) essentially freed him. He could act through various times simultaneously, essentially able to use his powers as he wished without having to conform to the puppet strings. But he's quite pleased to go back to his (seemingly) depressing life, and become the god he truly is.

I don't know, I could have said that so much better, but every story in Watchmen is an odessy, truly.

At 3/24/08 09:47 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: What blew my mind was the idea that for him, he is like everywhere in his own personal timeline at once. He's living not just the current moment, but past moments, and future moments at once...I can't even begin to imagine what the hell that's like.

It would be very weird, experiencing every emotion you've ever felt, and ever will feel, all at the same time would probably break a normal person. And I'm not entirely convinced it hasn't broken Manhattan seeing as despite being all powerful and able to do anything he likes he's still bound to follow his own future no matter what it may lead to so jsut continues with his normal life ( for the most part)

Also: if he can change his appearance ( as he does when he goes to the interview where it he gets accused of giving people cancer, and turns a darker shade of blue) why doesn't it just turn himself a more normal colour to remove some of the ' freak factor'.

At 3/25/08 03:16 AM, Mr-Silv3r wrote: Your comments about Thor straight after talking about Dr Manhatten put this into my head: Dr M is essentially Odin. An all powerful god, still restrained to the whims of the Fates.

Never thought of it like that, but it does seem to work.

But he's quite pleased to go back to his (seemingly) depressing life, and become the god he truly is.

I guess ultimate power is only appealing when you don;t possess it. As soon as you do you start to crave normality again. A case of the grass is always greener on the other side I suppose.

I think the limitation of Dr. M is that he's utterly a man of science who beleives that one thing means the next and so on. If he's seen something then that's how it must be. And he dosen't try to look human because he honestly feels no need to. He's not human and the base acceptance he'd get for looking like one is meaningless to him.