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At 3/5/08 11:29 AM, The-Hydra-of-Spore wrote: Everything weed dose cigarettes do worse and if introduced today would be illegal. I say either make weed legal or make cigarettes illegal. Sourcey Sourcey for claims made in paragraph. Except cigarettes bein illegal in today if introduced because that was in a new article.

Sorry for quadrople posting (god I want to Edit), but no, cannabis has effects that cigarettes don't. For example: You get high, and you get munchies (while cigarettes lower your hunger).
You know, getting high has some bad effects too; for example, if you're gonna drive, smoking a cigarette before doesn't lower your ability to drive, but getting high does.
Yes, I know about nico-kicks, but for most smokers they are rare, it's mostly 13-year olds that get them, and they (hopefully) don't drive.

If someone wants to take that crap then we should let them, they aren't harming anyone in the process. The alcohol prohibition was a bad idea last century and we're essentially repeating the same awful idea this century. All this is achieving is waisting our money and making drugs more popular. Sure they're bad for you but if someone still wants to take them then they should be allowed to take them.
Anyway, alcohol and nicotine are both legal even though they're very dangerous and addictive drugs.

Uh, drugs are bad, You shouldn't do drugs. uh. if you do them your bad, because drugs are bad, m'kay. It's a bad thing to do drugs. So... so don't be bad by doing drugs, m'kay, that would be bad, and drugs are bad.

No more crackheads.

At 3/3/08 12:48 PM, dySWN wrote:

At 3/3/08 11:48 AM, evilXbanana wrote: Really the only way for you understand is see firsthand that drugs are not so bad. So yes, hit that meth and get back to me.

I don't need to try drinking bleach to know that it would be generally not in my best interests.

But if you wanted to drink it, should the government have the right to stop you?

Drugs should be completely legal in my opinion. Peopl whould be able to do whatever they want to their own bodies it doesnt effect the community as whole. I know many communities that are formed around drug use.

I personally think that most drugs would be legal if the government could tax it as long as they were making money they wouldnt care.

At 3/3/08 11:19 AM, evilXbanana wrote:

Now if you have any more facts that mommy and the police have fed you, feel free to share.

To take away your fun.

At 3/7/08 09:36 PM, jcorishas wrote:

But if you wanted to drink it, should the government have the right to stop you?

Umm, remember Prohibition ?

At 3/4/08 05:43 PM, Christopherr wrote: And just to put the icing on the cake, have this. Marijuana makes you a worse student and can possibly cause a number of mental disorders. So uh... sit and spin.

Did you ever think that those that already do poorly in school would be be likelier to partake in marijuana smoking? Also, being an alcoholic wouldn't help you in school or improve your health either.

Both drugs could adversely affect your performance but one is legal. Logically both drugs should be legal or illegal and, since all drugs have adverse effects, all drugs should be legal or illegal.

At 3/7/08 09:45 PM, KennyD wrote:

At 3/7/08 09:36 PM, jcorishas wrote:

But if you wanted to drink it, should the government have the right to stop you?

Umm, remember Prohibition ?

Oh yeah, that spectacular failure. The only thing it accomplished was giving the Mafia it's foothold in America. Also, you didn't answer my question, if you wanted to drink bleach (or beer or whatever), should the government have the right to stop you?

Drugs=Bad.

Didn't you go through the anti-drug courses? It's the standard in the U.S.!

drugs should be leagal... anything that doesnt hurt anyone other than yourself should be legal yes even suicide... what you do to yourself should be your decision not the government's... in my specific situation i was depesed and on the brink of suicide but then i self medicated with weed and now years later im am perfectly fine and still use occasionally... and no one can tell the diffence from me and a non user unless of course they use as well... or of course if i tell them... if you look at countries with a more leinient out look on drugs have a much less percentage of use, crime, murder, and gangs... its not that drugs are good thats not what im saying just that and overall ban is completly wrong

Sometimes the government has to step in to keep its idiot citizens from killing/hurting themselves.

This is a capitalist society. So think of it this way.

If your citizens are on drugs this means they eventually will slowly stop being a worker and productive member of society. This former productive member of society now becomes a hindrance of society. Willing to do anything to get another hit of what they have. He gets his friends to do the drugs as well. Why not? It's legal. His friends pass it on to other friends. While you may have some members of your society refusing to do drugs there are always going to be that majority who does it anyway. Industry begins to slow down and the work force becomes...retarded.

Eventually the government is going to have to put more money into fixing them and getting them back to being productive members of society. That or they can die. You may think in Darwinistic/Libertarian terms of this idea, but drugs are an abnormality in the survival of the fittest. I'm not talking about pot you burnt out morons. I'm talking about meth, cocaine, and heroin. Anything that just kills you slowly.

So to prevent all of above the government must pass these laws and keep those citizens from hurting other citizens with this junk.

TA-DA!

im smoking tobacco right now, but im not getting the same effect as stronger drugs

At 3/8/08 05:52 AM, Republican1235 wrote: im smoking tobacco right now, but im not getting the same effect as stronger drugs

Enjoy cancer.

At 3/3/08 11:19 AM, evilXbanana wrote: Unless of course the druggy has a job to pay for his addiction. I once read a study that not only do people commit crimes to fund their habits but also to fund their dinner.

Men kill their wives because they slept with someone else. Men kill people for money to fund their drug addiction. Does it matter either way? Someone is dead no matter what the cost. But we can at least TRY and do something about drug addictions starting crime.

If people say that cigarettes are more dangerous then other drugs, and why can't we use other drugs, why not try and do something about cigarettes instead of trying to get more self hazardous acts legalized? A lot of stuff in this thread is just stupid to me. Everyone seems to want to blame everything on the government. Such as, "The government made certain drugs illegal to keep America in bad shape so they could blame drugs for their problems." That just seems like pure paranoid shit to me.

Drugs are illegal because they make you fucking stupid you dumb fuck.

At 3/7/08 11:03 PM, puddinN64 wrote: Drugs=Bad.

Right. So how many people have died taking prescription drugs?

(like Heath Ledger for example)

So many people.. Have died of overdose of perscription drugs..

well drugs like meth are highly toixic.-_-

At 3/8/08 07:19 PM, gunner-564 wrote: well drugs like meth are highly toixic.

Well, the drug laws could include a minor clemency for including "safe use" and "health warning" instructions or "quit service" and "help line" contact details with street drugs. Say a 10% discount on sentencing if found packaged within yer standard "deal".

Life saving measures like this are almost never considered, even thou they could have benefitial side-effects in the levels of safe drug use, as well as saving lives. Just another example of how "doing the right thing" is not the objective of the current War On Drugs.

Drugs aren't inherently bad, but the way that they try to fix problems in the body is what makes them a gamble, they alter chemical conditions in the body to either promote or hinder the production of hormones in the body, which causes collateral changes. [Which is why so many drugs have side effects, and why overdosing is so dangerous, because the side effects become amplified.]

Quite simply, when ever you can, keep the concoctions in the crucible, and change an illness with something more natural; such as behavior or diet.

It's not religious bullshit, and if that kind of thinking is perpetrated we will become a society that becomes dependent on highly destructive substances; depressions, diseases, and other ailments are often times attributed to poor diet and behavior; it is idiotic to accept the perpetuation of such behaviours if there are drugs that can reverse the effects. [Essentially, 'treating' but not 'curing' or 'preventing']

I agree with all the others. and I have some more of my own:

children can look at a drug called LSD which can sometimes be decorated in pictures of bart simpson, witches, and the batman slogan. the children may believe these to be fizzy sweets*. they eat one and go around hallucinating dinosaurs all day.
if you take drugs in view of a child, (which most people DO belive it or not) they assume it to be ok. the following night they will most probably sneak into their parents room after not being given any, and steal the drugs.
so you see, the law has several views on the reason drugs should be banned.

I think Weed should be legalized because it would bring in huge amounts of money for the economy. Besides, its just so damn awesome and fun anyway.

At 3/8/08 07:19 PM, gunner-564 wrote: well drugs like meth are highly toixic.-_-

Drugs, save maybe pot and acid n shit, are mainly very dangerous.

But it should be treated as a medical problem, not a legal one.

It would waste less money.

Whether you're for or against drugs, you cannot say that the war on drugs isn't failing abysmally.

yeah i agree that weed should be legalized but not most drugs. I agree the war on drugs has been an overall waste of funds, but some drugs are highly destructive. I'm sick of the ignorant view that its my body i can do what i want with it. there's more to it. the society as whole is destroyed by drugs. The legalization of drugs would only hurt the economy as well as provide power to other countries creating drugs. It would open a door for more and more people to use them. Weed is not anymore destructive than alcohol, if anything less, but most drugs are extremely harmful.

Cause if it were legal we woudnt have anymore cops lol.

At 3/9/08 04:49 PM, wickedtoaster wrote: yeah i agree that weed should be legalized but not most drugs. I agree the war on drugs has been an overall waste of funds, but some drugs are highly destructive. I'm sick of the ignorant view that its my body i can do what i want with it. there's more to it. the society as whole is destroyed by drugs. The legalization of drugs would only hurt the economy as well as provide power to other countries creating drugs. It would open a door for more and more people to use them. Weed is not anymore destructive than alcohol, if anything less, but most drugs are extremely harmful.

The idea that the whole country will turn into druggies if drugs were legalized sounds preposterous to me. Is everyone an alcoholic because alcohol is legal? Is everyone a smoker because cigarettes are legal? Is everyone gunning down random civilians because guns are legal?
There are going to be the druggies but they will probably represent the minority.

At 3/3/08 02:39 AM, B-McGee wrote: decriminalize, not legalize

I personally never understood the difference. Is there one?

Also drugs are illegal cause they're bad, mmkay

At 3/9/08 12:27 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: But it should be treated as a medical problem, not a legal one.

Fucking A.

Drug addiction is a huge problem for many people, but throwing them in jail, punishing them, does them no good at all and only adds to their problem.

I cannot see how anyone could think punishing someone simply for being addicted to a harmful and destructive subtance would be a good idea.