Peak Oil

[Noolie]

So what do you guys think about peak oil? Our history teacher just went over it today in class and I think its dumb. I mean why can't we just drill deeper to get more oil? The US has enough barred oil to keep us going for like a thousand years.

[JudgeDredd]

At 2/28/08 09:36 PM, Noolie wrote: I mean why can't we just drill deeper to get more oil?

If we drill any deeper we'd tap into the Earth's core. That's why.

logical leap: core = stream = free enregy.

[poxpower]

At 2/28/08 09:44 PM, JudgeDredd wrote:

At 2/28/08 09:36 PM, Noolie wrote: I mean why can't we just drill deeper to get more oil?

If we drill any deeper we'd tap into the Earth's core. That's why.

logical leap: core = stream = free enregy.

My car actually runs on magma

[Noolie]

But we've only gone a couple of miles down! The cores like hundreds, isn't it?

[JudgeDredd]

At 2/28/08 09:48 PM, poxpower wrote:

At 2/28/08 09:44 PM, JudgeDredd wrote:

At 2/28/08 09:36 PM, Noolie wrote: I mean why can't we just drill deeper to get more oil?

If we drill any deeper we'd tap into the Earth's core. That's why.

logical leap: core = steam = free energy.

My car actually runs on magma

Pah!

My car runs off flux with the Earth's magnetic core. According to the blurb from the brochure, "Earth's iron core spins faster than the Earth itself, floating within a liquid iron ocean. The resulting excess speed differential creates a massive flux (causing the Earth's own magnetic field infact) and resulting in free energy within stationary magnets".

Don't quite understand it myself, but it works great!

[Noolie]

ummmmm what dose that have to do with oil?

[reviewer-general]

At 2/28/08 09:36 PM, Noolie wrote: So what do you guys think about peak oil? Our history teacher just went over it today in class and I think its dumb. I mean why can't we just drill deeper to get more oil? The US has enough barred oil to keep us going for like a thousand years.

1.) We are not sitting above a bottomless ocean of oil.

2.) We do not have anywhere NEAR that much oil.

Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about.

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[Noolie]

I do know what I'm talking about, and my science teacher even said that there was more oil under the ground then we know what to do with! Look at the Russians there drilling 5 miles under the earth and pulling up oil! How could that happen if there wasn't more of it down there? And don't try and tell me oils made from plants and dinosaurs! That theory was proven wrong decades ago!!!

[reviewer-general]

At 2/28/08 10:12 PM, Noolie wrote: And don't try and tell me oils made from plants and dinosaurs! That theory was proven wrong decades ago!!!

Thanks for confirming that last statement of mine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum#F ormation

"OMG, WIKIPEDIA ISN'T A VALID SOURCE" is going to be your next bitch fit, amirite?

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_7615 86407/fossil_fuels.html

Read Section II, thanks.

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[AdamRice]

At 2/28/08 09:36 PM, Noolie wrote: So what do you guys think about peak oil? Our history teacher just went over it today in class and I think its dumb. I mean why can't we just drill deeper to get more oil? The US has enough barred oil to keep us going for like a thousand years.

Depth has nothing to do with oil reserves. Why would drilling deeper do anything? What does deeper imply, that if you drill anywhere on Earth to a great enough depth, oil will come out? It doesn't work like that.

Oil fields only occur in places where marine life existed millions of years ago (dried up lake beds, rivers, ocean shore lines).

Here are some real statistics.
The department of energy estimates the following for peak oil.

Low: 18 years
Mean: 29 years
High: 39 years

Go to slide 12 of this power point for the graph and numbers.

Actually just read the entire power point ( I know you won't because you're dumb), it has plenty of accurate data that is also interesting and easy to understand.

[Noolie]

Your links are wrong! If oil was made from plants and animals how come we find below any fossilize things? Your links are wrong and bias!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_p etroleum_origin
http://www.gasresources.net/index.htm
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf124/s f124p10.htm

Ha! I have one more link then you :P

[reviewer-general]

At 2/28/08 10:20 PM, AdamRice wrote: Go to slide 12 of this power point for the graph and numbers.

Actually just read the entire power point ( I know you won't because you're dumb), it has plenty of accurate data that is also interesting and easy to understand.

Erm, do you have to have an MSU username to use that? Cause it did not work for me, and I see you are from MI, so....

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[AdamRice]

At 2/28/08 10:24 PM, Noolie wrote: Your links are wrong! If oil was made from plants and animals how come we find below any fossilize things? Your links are wrong and bias!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_p etroleum_origin
http://www.gasresources.net/index.htm
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf124/s f124p10.htm

Ha! I have one mo re link then you :P

I weep for this generation. This guy is dumber than a pile of rocks.

[reviewer-general]

At 2/28/08 10:24 PM, Noolie wrote: Your links are wrong! If oil was made from plants and animals how come we find below any fossilize things? Your links are wrong and bias!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_p etroleum_origin

I had to go no further than your first link here.

"Although evidence exists for abiogenic creation of methane and hydrocarbon gases within the Earth[2][3], they are not produced in commercially significant quantities..."

Me: 17
You: 0

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[AdamRice]

At 2/28/08 10:25 PM, reviewer-general wrote:

At 2/28/08 10:20 PM, AdamRice wrote: Go to slide 12 of this power point for the graph and numbers.

Actually just read the entire power point ( I know you won't because you're dumb), it has plenty of accurate data that is also interesting and easy to understand.

Erm, do you have to have an MSU username to use that? Cause it did not work for me, and I see you are from MI, so....

Oh never mind then, it's a presentation from one of my physics classes. I didn't realize it wouldn't show up for people without an MSU net ID. I'll see if I can save the presentation to my hard drive and re-upload it somewhere else.

[StealthJew]

At 2/28/08 10:27 PM, AdamRice wrote: I'll see if I can save the presentation to my hard drive and re-upload it somewhere else.

If you do so, could you provide me (or rather, reviewer-general) with a link via PM? I am interested in what is to be said.

Thanks.

[Noolie]

Read my other links!!! Besides that link had to be changed, it even says that the quote isn't citeted.

[citation needed]

[Noolie]

and I'm not dumb your are! GOD THIS FORUM IS SO STUPID!!!

[AdamRice]

At 2/28/08 10:36 PM, Noolie wrote: and I'm not dumb your are! GOD THIS FORUM IS SO STUPID!!!

Obviously this is a troll.

Okay, because both photo bucket and putfile suck cock, I wasn't able to upload the entire .pdf power point file. Does anyone know of a free upload website where I can just host a 4MB file? I guess because it isn't a picture or a movie, those previously stated sites will not work.

I was able to get up a picture of the graph though.

That's real, from the DOE. No bullshit here, I promise.

[Noolie]

I'm not a troll! I just don't like being called dumb or stupid. So what is that image? Just looks like some lines to me.

[JudgeDredd]

At 2/28/08 10:42 PM, AdamRice wrote: That's real, from the DOE. No bullshit here, I promise.

Wholy Shit!

So DOE expects production to double in next 20 years, then collapse 80 or 90% within 20 years from peak??

Forgive my saying so, but that's the most ludicrous "offical" graph i've seen in my life.

[reviewer-general]

At 2/28/08 10:50 PM, Noolie wrote: So what is that image? Just looks like some lines to me.

Yeah, that's usually what a GRAPH looks like.

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[Al6200]

At 2/28/08 09:36 PM, Noolie wrote: So what do you guys think about peak oil? Our history teacher just went over it today in class and I think its dumb. I mean why can't we just drill deeper to get more oil? The US has enough barred oil to keep us going for like a thousand years.

The depth of the Earth isn't infinite (well, technically you'd come out the other side, but whatever)

[KeithHybrid]

At 2/28/08 10:36 PM, Noolie wrote: and I'm not dumb your are! GOD THIS FORUM IS SO STUPID!!!

Hey, little girl, wait until your balls drop, then tell us that.

[Bolo]

First of all, oil DOES form from the long-decayed organic remains of the marine biome.

"Petroleum, or oil, forms from the remains of plants and animals that lived in the ocean between 10 to 160 million years ago. When organisms died and sank to the bottom, they were covered in mud, sand, and other mineral deposits. This rapid burial prevented immediate decay, which would normally occur if organisms remained exposed on the sea floor. "

Furthermore, specific conditions must exist for oil to be found in great quantity. Read up on Petroleum Geology.

[SolInvictus]

why do i get the feeling hes having fun with you guys?

[PubicTears]

A pretty cool website! Check it out its about the "Oil Peak".
http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm
Im not saying its 100% fact so dont tell me contact the website if you are that botherd.
Yeh, so check it out, really good site.

[PubicTears]

The links are funny (not haha funny) on the website, so go to:
[Near Future], AD 2008, Crash!
Sorry about that

[SmilezRoyale]

At 2/28/08 09:57 PM, Noolie wrote: But we've only gone a couple of miles down! The cores like hundreds, isn't it?

Several thousand, actually.

[AdamRice]

At 2/29/08 07:27 PM, Bolo wrote: First of all, oil DOES form from the long-decayed organic remains of the marine biome.

"Petroleum, or oil, forms from the remains of plants and animals that lived in the ocean between 10 to 160 million years ago. When organisms died and sank to the bottom, they were covered in mud, sand, and other mineral deposits. This rapid burial prevented immediate decay, which would normally occur if organisms remained exposed on the sea floor. "

Furthermore, specific conditions must exist for oil to be found in great quantity. Read up on Petroleum Geology.

Take it from Petroleum himself.

PHY183-Lecture17.pdf
I hosted the energy power point for those of you that were interested in looking at it. It's pretty interesting and has accurate information. It was part of the lecture one day in my physics class. It was put together by my professor, Wolfgang Bauer, who also happens to be the chair of the physics department at MSU. Most charismatic prof. I've ever met, real great guy.