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Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 02:30:25 Reply

Do you think people should be stopped from committing dangerous sex acts? Like, do you think they should be illegal, and if so, punishable by what? Therapy? Should sexual deviancy clinics be as commonplace as mental hospitals? Like auto-erotic asphyxiation, or any dangerous anal play, or smothering and breathplay, or knifeplay, or anything beyond that, that isn't safe and sane, like bleeding and real, dangerous torture, or those guys who fetishize AIDS? If everyone is consenting.

Extend this to Armin Meiwes, that German cannibal guy who met a consenting victim over the internet and killed him.

I would extend this to the guy who got killed by being sodomised by a horse, because I don't think you can rape an animal and all that matters is they're treated well. And I'm a vegetarian. You could argue that vegetarianism makes me more pliable to the concept of fucking animals, of course.

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 02:31:28 Reply

earfetish, you are disgustingly, overwhelmingly creepy. congratulations

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 02:32:06 Reply

Limiting how people want to have sex wouldn't be ethical, as much as of a kindness it would be for asphyxiation victims.

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 02:32:25 Reply

What got me thinking about this was this:
http://earfetish.newgrounds.com/news/pos t/87072

is this some subtle way to plug a story

who knows

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 02:36:34 Reply

As far as dangerous sex acts go, as long as they're consenting adults they should be allowed to do it.

Killing a consenting person..
Not gonna touch that with a 10 foot pole

And getting sodomized by a horse should definitely not be legal, even if they do treat the animal well.

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 02:39:30 Reply

Consenting adults can do whatever they want to do. After all, they are both willing parties.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 02:40:53 Reply

At 2/27/08 02:39 AM, SoulPiker wrote: Consenting adults can do whatever they want to do. After all, they are both willing parties.

well a lot of people don't think that way

like I'm all for people having the freedom to do what they like with their own bodies, but I know that's not even a majority opinion really

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 05:06:29 Reply

Where does it end if we start with the limiting? Let's go down to that you can only have missionary sex with your lawfully married wife for purpose of reparation, also the lights have got to be off HUURRRR.

Okay that might never happen. But I'm all against limiting the ways of having sex. Most BDSM couples have limits of what you can and cannot do anyways. Mind your own business is what I say.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:08:41 Reply

At 2/27/08 02:30 AM, Earfetish wrote: or those guys who fetishize AIDS?

Wow...Thats a new one to me.

Is there a name for this?

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:10:11 Reply

no, let people do, fuck

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:12:05 Reply

I think as long as both parties consent and there is no lasting danger to either people involved then let them do what they want, no matter how sick some acts can appear to others. It's their lives and their sex lives.

The german who ate someone who consented? That was plain wrong and nasty.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:23:33 Reply

At 2/27/08 06:08 AM, spiritual101 wrote:
At 2/27/08 02:30 AM, Earfetish wrote: or those guys who fetishize AIDS?
Wow...Thats a new one to me.

Is there a name for this?

I tthink it's called "Bug Catching"

But still knifeplay? Thats GOTTA be crazy in the bedroom...


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:24:54 Reply

At 2/27/08 06:08 AM, spiritual101 wrote:
At 2/27/08 02:30 AM, Earfetish wrote: or those guys who fetishize AIDS?
Wow...Thats a new one to me.

Is there a name for this?

I tthink it's called "Bug Catching"

But still knifeplay? Thats GOTTA be crazy in the bedroom...


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:28:38 Reply

At 2/27/08 02:30 AM, Earfetish wrote: Do you think people should be stopped from committing dangerous sex acts?

I reckon people should be allowed to do what they want provided the other person knows it's coming. I.e. they don't just start choking them halfway through out of nowhere.
Even if they did pass some sort of a legislation though it would be impossible to track if both people were up to it.

Extend this to Armin Meiwes, that German cannibal guy who met a consenting victim over the internet and killed him.

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:32:44 Reply

At 2/27/08 06:12 AM, Gagsy wrote: I think as long as both parties consent and there is no lasting danger to either people involved then let them do what they want, no matter how sick some acts can appear to others. It's their lives and their sex lives.

The whole smothering fetish is alike to other fetishes that could end up with a death if one fucks it up. Now imagine your partner wants to be smothered with a pillow, you do so and they die. You're fucked. It's not something that can be mastered, most of those couples have a code word or a code tap.


The german who ate someone who consented? That was plain wrong and nasty.

I want to mention the IT Crowd but this is a serious topic.

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:38:27 Reply

At 2/27/08 06:32 AM, BlueFlameSkulls wrote:
The whole smothering fetish is alike to other fetishes that could end up with a death if one fucks it up. Now imagine your partner wants to be smothered with a pillow, you do so and they die. You're fucked. It's not something that can be mastered, most of those couples have a code word or a code tap.

Well yeah codes are needed in dangerous sex play. If they kill their lover by accident, fuck it, they deserve to be put away for life for being so careless.

I want to mention the IT Crowd but this is a serious topic.

I wanted to do the same thing myself.

I'm in an ethical pickle.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 06:43:17 Reply

My opinion on this matter is an opinion I have about a lot of things in life:
People have the freedom to do whatever they wish UNTIL it may prove to harm themselves or others.

It's as simply as that, hell, even psychiatrists have a duty to break their oath of not telling a single soul what is said in therapy's until someone may be in harm's way.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 07:00:51 Reply

If it's within the boundaries of law and it's consenting why not? As for consented death, why not as well? There's assisted suicide, and while it's not the same thing, I think a person has the choice to end their own life however they see fit.

There's always those weird stories you hear about fucked up people with unnatural desires. I personally think that there should be places for these people to get help. Perhaps the hospital is good enough, but honestly; they do need help.

I read in the news paper about a bunch of rich wealthy men getting together and asfixiating themselves by wrapping themselves in plastic wrap so they could hardly breathe. They left one dude in a closet for a day or so and he died. They were charged with manslaughter I believe. Fucking idiots.

I don't understand their sick lust so I can't really make a fair judgement. I'd like to say no, but it's so boring. Each person will meet their own destined fate. The world is massive and so is human diversity and weirdness. On that note, there are a lot of fucked up people in this world, and by a little, I mean a fucking lot. It makes me want to buy a gun.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 07:23:01 Reply

As long as there's consent I see no problem. Why stop people doing what they want?


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 07:33:42 Reply

At 2/27/08 02:36 AM, maddog125 wrote:
And getting sodomized by a horse should definitely not be legal, even if they do treat the animal well.

What if you lube the horse up first?

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 07:37:14 Reply

People should be able to do what ever the fuck they want, if every body is consenting. It's all good fun.

It really sucks that my fetish is already illegal....

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 07:38:20 Reply

meh, some people have different sexual tendencies, like me, I prefer children....I mean persons of the same sex and age..yeah.. But I beleive that If "these" people are not hurting anyone against their will then there is not really a problem, like that german canibalist wasn't a bad guy, he was just willing to furfill the fantasy of beeing eaten alive. Most of the guys that showed didn't go through with it, one even ended up ordering a pizza with him.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 07:42:31 Reply

The only way I see you being able to make the agrument is if these dangerous acts are considered self-harm or practices of the mentally instable. I that, for instance, in Michigan of the good old US it is illigal to have sex with someone who has been diagnosed as mentally unsound and incapable of good judgement.

Also, even if the other person is willing, if you are cutting them it could be considered abuse of some sort.

I think there are ways to do it and situations for which you could make it legal/illigal, but overall I don't think its something I would ever want to here as a judge in a court room. If consent is there the other person dies, its still murder or rather manslaughter so I don't see how we'd need new laws... The extreme cases already fit.

As for animals, in the US that is generally considered animal abuse.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 08:04:29 Reply

At 2/27/08 06:08 AM, spiritual101 wrote:
At 2/27/08 02:30 AM, Earfetish wrote: or those guys who fetishize AIDS?
Wow...Thats a new one to me.

Is there a name for this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing

might be more fantasy than reality

for people who are saying 'it should be illegal', what do you propose as a method of punishment? It's worth pointing out that sexual deviancies are notoriously difficult to remedy through psychiatric treatment, and I would really feel that any prison term would be more detrimental to the mean average of extreme fetishists than their fetishes would be.

It's also worth pointing out that, just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's condoned by larger society. And would fewer people even engage in dangerous sex if it was illegal? Like, surely the danger is some form of turn-on.

And most sensible people don't want to die. I reckon it's up to them to create a situation where they feel comfortable and secure putting their life in someone else's hands.

And finally, I know this is like my main argument all the time, but I imagine more extreme fetishists die from something retarded like alcohol poisoning or road traffic accidents every year than from their 'hobbies'.

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I read in the news paper about a bunch of rich wealthy men getting together and asfixiating themselves by wrapping themselves in plastic wrap so they could hardly breathe. They left one dude in a closet for a day or so and he died

In cases like that, I would say that they acted in a stupid, callous and negligent way, and such behaviour should never be legalised.

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 08:42:22 Reply

no matter what laws are put in place people still do all these bizzare sex acts, the only thing you can do if you do if you dont like it is not watch it and not to join in.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 08:47:21 Reply

While this isn't practical or really feasible to do on a larger scale. If one was to go under psychiatric evaluation to determine whether or not they are of sound mind, and then sign a legal document relieving the partner, and do these sex acts with a mediator present who can ensure that the contract and terms are not broken, then it would not be necessary for these things to be illegal.

Otherwise, the person could be mentally unstable, or that terms could be broken. For instance, even in light S&M, if someone says 'hit me' it doesn't mean repeated punches to the face, but someone could argue in court that it was consensual. People shouldn't have to be protected from their own stupidity


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 09:02:47 Reply

Personally, I think we should give em the death sentence. Cannibal sex fetishes? Lol head chop. But hey, on other fetishes (pissing on each other) go right ahead.

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 09:11:03 Reply

Although this isn't really related, I saw clippet on the bottom of my screen last night that read "Man arrested when child, animal porn found on computer."

I thought it was funny how they had to say animal porn too. Like child porn doesn't make the guy a deviant.


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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 20:57:59 Reply

At 2/27/08 09:02 AM, Furrymarine23 wrote: Personally, I think we should give em the death sentence. Cannibal sex fetishes? Lol head chop. But hey, on other fetishes (pissing on each other) go right ahead.

I have trust that society will continue to function and most people will choose to ignore their freedom to kill themselves, if we make it legal.

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Response to Dangerous sex acts 2008-02-27 21:10:16 Reply

Monitoring people people and making sure they don't perform secks improperly is the way to go! We could outfit everyone with shock collars that immediately call a SWAT team to your house if your willy goes somewhere it shouldn't!

This would cut down on anxiety disorders and death by horse dick, throughout the world!