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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 15:48:18 Reply

Exactly. Most of these posts are from immature kids who feel the need to rebel. Most of them dont realize what the outcome would be. Also, anarchy cannot exist; its paradoxial.
Rebel children! Maybe daddy will give you some attention now!....grow up kids.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 17:17:46 Reply

This topic was meant to be anarchist sharing ideas and ideals. Not a discussion about if it's possable or not.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 17:20:10 Reply

I think most rebellious youngsters just listen to death metal and complain about Bush.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 22:07:04 Reply

Dude, I seriously doubt you really know what anarchism stands for. You can't just "become" an anarchist. You don't wake up one day thinking "hey! Anarchism seems cool! Maybe ill try it out!". Wrong man. Anarchism is a way of life, you don't do it to be cool, you do it because you don't believe in an organized society,you do it because you despise authority and people who tell you what to do.

Also, very early in this thread you contradicted yourself. "I want to become an anarchist" To "Im a real anarchist". And the name "killa" dosen't help either.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 23:49:46 Reply

At 9/11/03 05:17 PM, cold_killa wrote: This topic was meant to be anarchist sharing ideas and ideals. Not a discussion about if it's possable or not.

IT'S UTTER CHAOS!!! WHAT SHALL WE DO???

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-12 03:23:14 Reply

Pah, heaps of people come along talking about, you dont know what anarchy is, anarchy is all about "____insert exact same thing everyone else said here____ > because your all a bunch of frauds"

I think its ridiculous, if you wanna be an anarchist your not gonnna join your local anarchists club and goto meetings, that would be contradictory, you will have to do it for yourself

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-12 09:32:17 Reply

It isn't about being a rebel or wanting to defy rules it is about having complete control over your own life.

Anarchism is a political theory which aims to create anarchy, "the absence of a master, of a sovereign” Anarchism is a political theory which aims to create a society within which individuals freely co-operate together as equals. As such anarchism opposes all forms of hierarchical control which are harmful to the individual and their individuality as well as being unnecessary.

Anarchy is the name given to a principle or theory of life and conduct under which society is conceived without government. Harmony in such a society is obtained, not by submission to law, or by obedience to any authority, but by free agreements concluded between various groups.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-12 10:16:48 Reply

Hey man i've spent hours researching anarchy and i live it who are you to judge if i'm for real?

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-12 22:08:48 Reply

First of all, i believe that the kind of people that are true anarchists are very few and far in between. A vast majority of people that scrawl what could be termed the anarchy "logo" are supportive of a bastardized version of anarchy where chaos rules and only the strongest survive (Government evolved to avoid this).
Second of all, i'd like to say that you can't just join a 'school of thought'. You examine all the choices in detail and then decide which best suits you and live by it.
Then again, it's just the opinion of someone who may or may even know what they are talking about.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-12 23:21:45 Reply

At 9/11/03 05:20 PM, adrshepard wrote: I think most rebellious youngsters just listen to death metal and complain about Bush.

What in the hell are you talking about?

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-13 03:28:13 Reply

people who dont know what they're talking about? your the only one who comes to mind buddy.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-13 06:14:07 Reply

Anarchy is impractical and wouldn't work. Without a central government or something, there would be utter chaos. Criminals would rule, and there would be no law and order.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-13 11:28:05 Reply

At 9/12/03 10:16 AM, cold_killa wrote: Hey man i've spent hours researching anarchy and i live it who are you to judge if i'm for real?

If you've really invested your time researching it, then by all means disregard my statements. Or not.


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-13 22:05:11 Reply

At 9/13/03 03:28 AM, cold_killa wrote: people who dont know what they're talking about? your the only one who comes to mind buddy.

And the worst burn of the day goes to: Cold_killa!

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 00:03:28 Reply

How many people here agree that our legal system it too complex when you need to hire someone just to pay taxes for you? Or maybe if you NEED a lawyer if you are charged witha crime? Legalism is destroying our world. Reduce the number of laws, simplify our lives, make it easier for all people to make decisions that allow them to lead happy fulfilling lives. I'm not for totally anarchy, but a simplification of our governmental systems is definitely in order, and past due.


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Because 2,000 years of "For God so loved the world" doesn't trump 1.2 million years of "Survival of the Fittest."

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 00:51:22 Reply

At 9/14/03 12:03 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: I'm not for totally anarchy, but a simplification of our governmental systems is definitely in order, and past due.

PREACH ON, FUNKMASTER!
Seriously... Anarchy is a pipe-dream.

You've got to be realistic sometimes. Well, a lot of the times, actually.


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 00:54:39 Reply

At 9/14/03 12:51 AM, TheShrike wrote: PREACH ON, FUNKMASTER!
Seriously... Anarchy is a pipe-dream.

You've got to be realistic sometimes. Well, a lot of the times, actually.

I find being realistic all the time works well for me. However, it does make it difficult to get laid...


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 01:03:16 Reply

At 9/14/03 12:54 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: However, it does make it difficult to get laid...

Tell it like it is, brother FUNK!


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 01:12:30 Reply

At 9/14/03 01:03 AM, TheShrike wrote:
At 9/14/03 12:54 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: However, it does make it difficult to get laid...
Tell it like it is, brother FUNK!

The secret is to be idealistic enough to make people like you, but realistic enough to not be a sucker.


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 01:25:58 Reply

I think i started my anarchist ideals after reading a few books by george orwell. If you havent read any, i highly reccomend doing so.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 01:30:17 Reply

At 9/14/03 01:12 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: The secret is to be idealistic enough to make people like you, but realistic enough to not be a sucker.

THIS MAN CAN TELL NO LIES, AMEN!


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 01:35:05 Reply

At 9/14/03 01:12 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: The secret is to be idealistic enough to make people like you, but realistic enough to not be a sucker.

[reworded to be more specific]
The secret is to just smile and nod everytime someone says that one day we'll live in a utopia so you won't bum them out, while knowing full well that the innate asshole-ism of the human race will never let that happen.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 16:36:19 Reply

At 9/13/03 06:14 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: Anarchy is impractical and wouldn't work. Without a central government or something, there would be utter chaos.

At first, yes. "Order through chaos" People will eventually regroup into communes since it's the natural way of living. And besides, without a central overnment, everyone has control of every aspect of their own lives and not on the lives of others.

Criminals would rule, and there would be no law and order.

Why do you say criminals would rules?

Besides, without any laws to break, the definition of criminal doesn't apply in anarchy.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 16:44:13 Reply

Maybe you should move to Africa where there is anarchy, and you can see how great it has made those countries.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 16:51:32 Reply

At 9/14/03 04:44 PM, adrshepard wrote: Maybe you should move to Africa where there is anarchy, and you can see how great it has made those countries.

That's not anarchy, that's a an opressive government and fundamentalist rebels fighting each other for the
control of the country. Anarchy throws away the very concept of countries, which is the essence of way too many conflicts. (i.e. Israel and Palestine)

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 18:02:00 Reply

You're right. It just creates tribes and a lack of civilization. There's a reason why the first humans only lived till they were around 30.
And, anarchy in the sense of chaos, violence, and disorder, Africa has that in abundance.
Also, I don't see how the Palestine/Israeli conflict has anything to do with anarchy.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 18:23:16 Reply

At 9/14/03 06:02 PM, adrshepard wrote: You're right. It just creates tribes and a lack of civilization.

Tribes ARE a civilization, don't think in such a eurocentric manner.

There's a reason why the first humans only lived till they were around 30.

What are you talking about?

And, anarchy in the sense of chaos, violence, and disorder, Africa has that in abundance.

So in other words, your using the word "anarchy" in a sense that pleases you and completely ignore its principles and structure.

Also, I don't see how the Palestine/Israeli conflict has anything to do with anarchy.

It's one country who's fighting with another because of land and border issues. With anarchy, there wouldn't be any ethnic or geopolitical issues that makes "us" kill "them".

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 22:29:39 Reply

Anarchy is, simply put, totally impossible.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 22:33:53 Reply

At 9/14/03 06:23 PM, punk_disease wrote:
At 9/14/03 06:02 PM, adrshepard wrote:
Tribes ARE a civilization, don't think in such a eurocentric manner.

They are a very weak one at that. This is what civilization is in a dictionary. It would appear that tribes would be very poor in that sense.

http://www.bartleby.com/65/ci/civiliza.html


There's a reason why the first humans only lived till they were around 30.

I'm saying that medical breakthroughs happened when large numbers of people got together and formed larger communities and settlements. When large groups of people get together there have to be guidelines of conduct, otherwise violence would likely occur.

And, anarchy in the sense of chaos, violence, and disorder, Africa has that in abundance.
So in other words, your using the word "anarchy" in a sense that pleases you and completely ignore its principles and structure.

What structure? Do you mean that anarchy is more of a philosophy or way of life?

It's one country who's fighting with another because of land and border issues. With anarchy, there wouldn't be any ethnic or geopolitical issues that makes "us" kill "them".

Do you honestly think that the idea of property and ownership would dissappear with absence of a government? Even animals mark their territory and fight off others.

On another note, you seem to be against major civilization and meat-eating, both of which have greatly advanced the human race. (more meat in the diet of early humans helped the brain grow and evolve.)
Just what do you stand for, anyway?

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-14 23:27:57 Reply

The reason why anarchy would not work is because there are to many punkish vandals who well go vandal things and the reason why people don’t kill each other over peady things like in the westren days is because there is a law force to stop dumb ass from killing each other over lets say some thing like a car crash people usually just beat the shit out each other if there no cops people well kill each other plz if I am wrong tell me how anarchy would work to prevent these kind of things? I would rather have corrupt politics then a bunch off ass hats killing each other