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Anarchy 2003-09-09 18:28:22 Reply

I recently I have been wanting to become an active anarhist. If any others have any ideas on how to help. contact me or post a reply

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-09 18:30:47 Reply

cold_killa, anarchy never works. Simple line of greed. Even in the old stone age, they had some order. Do you want to be dumber than an old stone age person?

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-09 20:21:51 Reply

Many people believe that anarchy is total lawlessness and disorder caused by punkish-skinheads kind of vandalising and demonstrating (see riot). What people forget is that a real anarchist is a person who wants total freedom by PACIFIST manners. So to all of you 13 year old who think anarchist are the equivalent of punks, thimk twice and find out what it really means.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-09 20:45:22 Reply

At 9/9/03 06:28 PM, cold_killa wrote: I recently I have been wanting to become an active anarhist. If any others have any ideas on how to help. contact me or post a reply

The Anarchist's Cookbook.
Why are you interested in anarchy though? There are a hundred ways that you could take anarchy.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-09 23:28:21 Reply

i am a real anarchist. im not one of those 13 year old skinheads or dumber than a cave man. i just want total freedom from opression.I want to stop the government before it gains power and the people are sheep being led blindly by an ex cocaine user and drunk driving moron.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-09 23:50:10 Reply

Listen to The Sex Pistols.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 01:16:31 Reply

If you like old school punk; the ramones and the clash are also good.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 05:09:43 Reply

Anarchy is not serving in the f##king U.S. army. Anarchy is being vegan. Anarchy is good.
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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 06:17:54 Reply

Isn't funny how whenever I get a detention at school or a teacher yells at me... Something is destroyed there.... or thier tyres are slahed?


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 07:36:34 Reply

At 9/10/03 05:09 AM, Reclaw wrote: Anarchy is not serving in the f##king U.S. army. Anarchy is being vegan. Anarchy is good.
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Anarchy is the absence of a governmental organisation.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 07:40:18 Reply

At 9/9/03 06:28 PM, cold_killa wrote: I recently I have been wanting to become an active anarhist. If any others have any ideas on how to help. contact me or post a reply

An anarchistic organisation that you could contribute to and/or be actively involved in would be a contradiction of terms.

The easiest solution would be to go out into the wild shrubs of Irkutsk or Kamchatka, remove yourself from civilisation altogether and live as a hermit. That way, you could live however you wanted to, and you would be out of our hair. :)

At 9/10/03 06:17 AM, Enoll wrote: Isn't funny how whenever I get a detention at school or a teacher yells at me... Something is destroyed there.... or thier tyres are slahed?

That makes you a vengeful vandal, not an anarchist. Learn the difference, please :)

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 08:53:10 Reply

At 9/10/03 07:36 AM, ShubNiggurath wrote:
At 9/10/03 05:09 AM, Reclaw wrote: Anarchy is not serving in the f##king U.S. army. Anarchy is being vegan. Anarchy is good.
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Anarchy is the absence of a governmental organisation.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 09:00:27 Reply

An anarchistic organisation that you could contribute to and/or be actively involved in would be a contradiction of terms.

Well if you're a Anarcho-Capitalist it could be considered an oxymoron. However, Anarcho-Communism stresses the needs of societies, or cooperatives. These are both forms of organisation. Would someone who is a Anarchist, but not a Marxist, explain how you would get from a Capitalist/Mixed economy to an state of Anarchy (I was going to say Anarchist state, but that is a contradiction in terms.)

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 10:42:25 Reply

I wouldn't mind anarchy if the world didn't run on money and order.

I don't want to become a victim of stronger people. You have to know when there is anarchy, the strong rule the weak.

So even in an anarchist state, there is still law and order, you will be a slave to the will of the strong. At least in this society everyone has a say. I wouldn't mind being reduced to an anarchist state, strong willed people such as myself would have room for advancement and a chance for power.

In this soceity, the weak (majority) control the strong and the strong (minority) occassionaly victimize the weak.

I'm rambling. With a strong leader, there would be balance in the world.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 14:32:53 Reply

One thing it takes is co-operatin by the people as a whole. A global community. Want a way to stop a man from oppress others? take that power away from him.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 15:06:35 Reply

Anarchy would work very well for the first generation. But generations after that lacking the ability to feed the population or seek medical care would die out.


I have nothing against people who can use pot and lead a productive life. It's these sanctimonius hippies that make me wish I was a riot cop in the 60's

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 17:32:08 Reply

Anarchy is a nice concept, like Communism, but it's just too idealistic. It can't work. Human nature would prevent it.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 17:38:34 Reply

Maybe you should look into Daoism.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 17:48:08 Reply

explain it to me. i'm always intersted on studying new religions or philosophys

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 22:56:33 Reply

At 9/10/03 05:48 PM, cold_killa wrote: explain it to me. i'm always intersted on studying new religions or philosophys

Well thats the thing with Daoism. It's a Chinese philosophy that deals with disconnecting yourself from society and living "according to the way"
But no one knows what the way is, because one of the major phrases from it is "those who know the way don't speak it, those who speak it do not know it."
But as far as I know it involves getting back to nature and living like Robinson Crusoe, except without the slave-dude.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-10 23:31:05 Reply

kool i'll look into it.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 02:29:24 Reply

I'm sorry, but I doubt you know much about anarchy at all except from some vague grasp of 'no rules' that suits your youthful rebellion. Anarchy is the flavor of the week, and don't deny it.


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 03:46:04 Reply

anarchism has been around for thousands of years read about it before you judge it

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 06:52:44 Reply

At 9/10/03 07:40 AM, ShubNiggurath wrote: That makes you a vengeful vandal, not an anarchist. Learn the difference, please :)

newver said I was.. just saying some fun stuff to do when you're bored and angry....


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 13:56:19 Reply

I don't belive anarchy would work in reality...

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 14:06:01 Reply

At 9/11/03 03:46 AM, cold_killa wrote: anarchism has been around for thousands of years read about it before you judge it

I wasn't attacking anarchy, dumbass.


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 14:29:04 Reply

I agree with some anarchistic ideas (like laissez Faire). However, I'm not a retard. I need organization to make my life happier (ex Taco Bell, strip clubs, drug cartels, etc). So I think some things are more complex than they should be, and should be simplified. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.


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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 14:48:58 Reply

I see things haven't changed too much around here....

*Nirvana cracks knuckles*

Here goes.....

Real anarchists are opposed to all forms of hierarchical organization, not only the state.

Anarchists have differing ideas on precisely how society should to be organized. They all agree that the State must be replaced by a society without classes and without force. The anarchist movement has a long history and it arose not in the heads of ivory tower philosophers, but from the practical struggle for survival of masses of ordinary, oppressed people.

All chaos is believed to originate from authority and the State. It is a fundamental anarchist principle that only people that live in an area have the right to decide what happens there. Powers that be can only get in the way and impose things. Without the ruling class needing to keep us oppressed there would be no State. Anarchists seek to replace the state, not with chaos, but with the natural, spontaneous forms of organization that emerged from mutual aid and common interests.

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 14:49:42 Reply

It's so cute how the 14 year olds want to play in their little anarchy tree house

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Response to Anarchy 2003-09-11 14:54:02 Reply

At 9/11/03 02:49 PM, Pueidist wrote: It's so cute how the 14 year olds want to play in their little anarchy tree house

Flavor of the week, man, flavor of the week.


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