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Sorry, that would be beeting the British in the War of Independance. Wow the US uses the war on/of alot.
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At 9/12/03 10:59 AM, D2KVirus wrote:At 9/11/03 05:26 PM, adrshepard wrote:Hang on, weren't those the exact tactics used by the Americans in that War of Independence thing a few hundred years back?
There is no general coordinating this. There is no way that scattered Iraqi forces could ever be successful in driving away a 150,000 man army using guerilla tactics.
Let's see: Paul Revere lied his ass off in print to get some Anti-British propeganda to fire them up, but there was no way they Americans could stand up and fight the British army. They snuck around, blowing up arms depots and so on, or used dirty tricks like attacking on Sundays or, worst of all, Christmas - the British were gentlemen, see, and it isn't manly to fight on those days. Pagentry, dumb or what?
Yes, but Britain had not totally defeated us yet. There was still a continental army threatening the British forces, unlike in Iraq. If the continental army was defeated, no amount of little civilian attacks would have drove off the English.
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The war on terrorism is a failure. You can't fight something that doesn't exist as an entity.
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George Bush waging war on terrorism; Sort of like Sir Lancelot visiting a wedding.
If you don't get it, watch Monty Python and The Holy Grail. It's spot on...
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What the Americans need is a bomb that doesnt destroy building or people, but ideas. If they could build a bomb that destroys ideas, then they could fight this war. And I dont mean a nuclear bomb that destroys all of the world except the US.
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Terrorisum CAN be gotten rid of it is just going to take alot of:
time
money
lives
if the US is prepared to put this into it and be ready for alot of terrorist attacks then they will sucsed
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At 9/17/03 07:31 AM, dannys_place7 wrote: Terrorisum CAN be gotten rid of it is just going to take alot of:
time
money
lives
if the US is prepared to put this into it and be ready for alot of terrorist attacks then they will sucsed
They tried that already. It didn't work.
Then they asked a lot of other countries to come join in, even though they said they were capable of going it alone. The other countries laughed. Then Kofi Annan told you to cut the shit. Swiftly followed by me.
Come to think of it, didn't Vietnam go the same way?
The only way America is going to win this War on Terrorism is...admit it isn't a war, and give Bush the hint it may be a good idea to concentrate on something else, such as his own country. War on Terror? Fuck that, it's a war on Ideology, and those who aren't conforming to the dominant one (ie, be submissive when Uncle Sam kicks your door down to wave his bulk in your face) seem to get the roughest deal. After all, the Saudis know there place, which is why they didn't get any post 9/11 bombing, even though the terrorists originated there. They like the American money anyway, since it benefits them.
Hell, at least Blair doesn't insist on bombing the shit out of every other country he prefers to ours.
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At 9/11/03 05:26 PM, adrshepard wrote:
There is no general coordinating this. There is no way that scattered Iraqi forces could ever be successful in driving away a 150,000 man army using guerilla tactics.
yeah never happened in Vietnam either... its all about who wants it more... period.
It's pointless. From a logical standpoint, they should have surrendered and joined the Iraqi forces being trained to protect the country.
OK... If China invaded your country, you would accept it since they have you outnumbered and out gunned? FUCK THAT... anyone invades the US i lead the army that puts their leader's head on a stick.
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At 9/15/03 06:38 PM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: What the Americans need is a bomb that doesnt destroy building or people, but ideas. If they could build a bomb that destroys ideas, then they could fight this war. And I dont mean a nuclear bomb that destroys all of the world except the US.
I'm sure you like to kill all other ideas......nazi
(i'm kinda kidding but just look at your quote and think of our government with a bomb to erase ideas)
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At 9/15/03 09:57 AM, D2KVirus wrote: George Bush waging war on terrorism; Sort of like Sir Lancelot visiting a wedding.
If you don't get it, watch Monty Python and The Holy Grail. It's spot on...
OMG, thats my favourite part in the whole movie
back to the point, you can fight terror, but it will involve alot of terrorising
Its stupidity, your just fueling the feeling which caused the terrorism in the first place...does the Bush Administration think that theres a threshold of suffering which they have to inflict upon these people whereupon they will just give up?
Oh and in reply to that last post it would be havoc...well actually not, it would be normality...gone are hope, serenity, rebellion, hatred, resentment, venegance etc until all thats left is greed....I like a big bowl of capitilism flakes every morning
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However, the issue that interests me is what happens when Dubyuh gets dumped out on his ass at the next Election? After all, what will his successor do with this whole situation when they get in? Recall the troops? Drop nukes? Go to Bagdhad with a mop? Apologise to the world at large?
Stick to wars you can win. The War for Peace has never gone particularly well (nothing to do with pissing off whole sections of the globe by bombing people for little or no reason, assassinating their Presidents, and ordering them around a lot), so why not go with what works? The War for Your Freedom is one way traffic so far, and long may it continue. After all, what can we do about it, considering we're just citizens, not politicians?
And, yes, that was applicable to nations other than the US, so don't jump in until a fact punches you in the face and screams at you for being too hair-triggered.
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At 9/18/03 01:03 AM, miket311 wrote: I'm sure you like to kill all other ideas......nazi
(i'm kinda kidding but just look at your quote and think of our government with a bomb to erase ideas)
It was more of a sarcastic remark, about how the only way for them to be able to defeat terrorism is if they could destroy the idea of terrorism. No matter how many countrues they invade or bomb terrorism will always be around, and the way they are fighting the war on terror in my opinion will only further esclate the idea of terrorism not make it go away. I think everyone is entitled to their own ideas, its what they do with those ideas that I may or may not have a problem with.
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