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SolInvictus
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Response to NIU Shooting 2008-03-04 19:26:06 Reply

At 3/4/08 07:17 PM, TheMason wrote: I think the MU police need to start carrying the M-4 in this video...

i don't see the problem. if your child is able to get to your gun the problem isn't whether they think it's a toy but the fact that they have access to the gun.
and i've only seen pictures of these guns in gun relevant places, it's not like they're advertised publicly.


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Response to NIU Shooting 2008-03-04 19:41:33 Reply

At 3/4/08 07:08 PM, TheMason wrote:
At 3/4/08 04:49 PM, Lindione wrote: ... They have the means or the means to get the means to keep them away from the kids and it could prevent a tragedy here or there. ...
At the University of Missouri, the campus cops are commissioned cops with jurisdiction across the state. A MU officer can write a ticket or arrest someone not only in Columbia but St. Louis, Kansas City, Springfield, etc. Furthermore, the officers are allowed to carry, in their patrol car, an assault rifle chambered in the same calibur as the M-16. MU police carry a 9mm glock while on duty.

Furthemore, students who live in the dorms may bring firearms with them to Columbia from home. However, they must keep these firearms in the police armory and cannot have them anywhere on campus.

The truth of the matter is this: the police cannot protect you. Seriously, they are human beings. They do not have superpowers and they cannot be everywhere at all times.

Furthermore, what do you expect them to do to keep guns out of student's hands? Seriously...if you actually had random searches of dorm rooms Universities will be sued for violation of privacy rights. Furthermore, privacy laws protect health information so gun dealers cannot reasonably be expected to know when someone is lying about their mental health.

I'm talking mostly high schools and small universities/colleges which cant afford security detail. The guns might make a difference there. I'm not saying it will solve every last thing but it might stop a couple. For the most part I agree with you in there is not much we can do but these are a few nearly costless things. It would also be nice to have a officer or two stationed around the school area or at least within 1-2 minute's range and teachers get training for these types of things if they don't already get it.


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Response to NIU Shooting 2008-03-04 20:31:25 Reply

At 3/4/08 04:10 PM, reviewer-general wrote: Personally, I think our military is enough of a deterrent *HIGH FIVE WE RULE*
I disagree. Reasonable limits sound like just that, reasonable. Sure, you're going to get people complaining about how "it's our right to have as many guns as we want, dammit! >=| ", but I still think that NO ONE can justify having enough firepower to take on a brigade of marines.
But, let's suppose there WAS a breaking-and-entering and that person was armed. I agree that it is alright for a person to have a weapon and use it in their own personal, physical defense. Again, you don't need an arsenal to do so.

It doesn't make a difference when one man has a dozen guns, because he can only wield one. It doesn't really make anyone more dangerous if they have a lot of guns as opposed to one, unless they have the manpower to wield them simultaneously (which doesn't really ever happen in common situations)


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