Cop abuses power?

[chiefindomer]

Has anyone seen this video yet?

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/120278 9992/Asshole_Cop_in_Baltimore_Goes_Compl etely_Off_on_a_Kid

Do you think the kid deserved it or do you think the cop was abusing his power? I would go with the latter.

[TheJamoke]

The part of me that hates cops says "fuck that pig," but the part of me that hates skater punks says, "he should have used the tazer."

[gyrosword]

At 2/13/08 02:47 AM, chiefindomer wrote: do you think the cop was abusing his power?

since when have majority of police officers NOT abused their powers

tbh most of them think their above the law =\

[Lost-Chances]

"SIT DOWN I'M NOT A DUDE!"

"Call me dude one more time..."

"I'm not man, I'm not dude. I am officer Riviairy. The sooner you learn that, the longer you're going to live in this world...'Cose you go around doing this kind of stuff, somebody's going to kill you".

That's right children, if you forget the police officer is not a man but a "officer Riviairy", you're going to get murdered.

[Warrickneff]

Kids need to learn to stand up to their rights.

One of the first things my dad did once I was old enough to understand was teach me my rights in an encounter with police.

[jitterman]

wow, I thought I met cops that were huge dicks. Ive seen kids act alot worse around cops without them freaking out.

[thedo12]

exactly, a police officer has no right to tazer you for exercising your right of freedom of speech

[EvilerBowser1001]

At 2/13/08 03:05 AM, thedo12 wrote: exactly, a police officer has no right to tazer you for exercising your right of freedom of speech

There's a difference between harassment and free speech.
Free speech has to be limited.

But, yeah.
He sure overreacted.

[Lost-Chances]

At 2/13/08 03:07 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:05 AM, thedo12 wrote: exactly, a police officer has no right to tazer you for exercising your right of freedom of speech

There's a difference between harassment and free speech.
Free speech has to be limited.

Then why name it free speech then?

Isn't it called limited speech then?

[Lord-Zed]

That fuckin' cop should've had his stupid fuckin' head knocked in.

Goddamn, that prick makes me shitty.

[EvilerBowser1001]

At 2/13/08 03:08 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:07 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote: Free speech has to be limited.

Then why name it free speech then?

Freedom isn't free.
Lemme be honest, you have certain people saying what they want in certain instances.
IE- FIRE in a crowded movie theater.
If you cross a line, and commit a crime, you should be punished.
Free, until you abuse it.

[7384-9809]

Yes the cop was abusing his powers especially when he pushed the kid to the ground. A cop should not "lay hands" on people unless they were resisting arrest or are armed and/or dangerous.

All the kid needs to do now is to make a complaint about that cop and submit a copy of that video as evidence.

[Lost-Chances]

At 2/13/08 03:14 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:08 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:07 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote: Free speech has to be limited.

Then why name it free speech then?

Freedom isn't free.

Maybe, but free normally indicates there is no price. There is a price to pay if you say certain things though like you said.

If you cross a line, and commit a crime, you should be punished.
Free, until you abuse it.

But that's not free. You can only abuse it if there's a line and the idea of free speech I always thought was there was no line. There's no guarantee that the general public wouldn't want to skin you alive, but you are entitled to that speech even if it's wrong.

[Lord-Zed]

At 2/13/08 03:02 AM, Warrickneff wrote: Kids need to learn to stand up to their rights.

One of the first things my dad did once I was old enough to understand was teach me my rights in an encounter with police.

Heh, my dad gave me that talk recently.

Also, I would've said something to piss him off like, "tomorrow, I'll be laughing about this and you'll still be a pig"

[Warrickneff]

At 2/13/08 03:22 AM, Lord-Zed wrote: Also, I would've said something to piss him off like, "tomorrow, I'll be laughing about this and you'll still be a pig"

I simply would have said "Officer am I under arrest? Yes/No? Are you detaining me? Can I leave?". It doesn't matter what he's screaming at me. Unless he's writing me a ticket or putting me in cuffs, I don't have to give them an inch.

The moment he touches me unwarranted (like show in the video) is the moment I take his badge next week in a lawsuit. First thing tomorrow morning I would have been in a solicitor's office trying to take away a couple weeks of his pay.

[chiefindomer]

I honestly don't think that cop would have acted that way if it was an older person. I think he just thought he could get away with that shit because it was a 14 year old kid he was fucking with. Someone younger tends to get intimidated easier unlike someone who is grown. I mean I know people who have got in fights with cops just because the cop was yelling at them imagine if a cop just came up and threw them on the ground when they had no right to do it.

[Lord-Zed]

At 2/13/08 03:26 AM, Warrickneff wrote: I simply would have said "Officer am I under arrest? Yes/No? Are you detaining me? Can I leave?". It doesn't matter what he's screaming at me. Unless he's writing me a ticket or putting me in cuffs, I don't have to give them an inch.

Now that I've thought about it, your idea is better. But I'd still get a laugh at seeing this asshole lose it at some petty-ass insult I make.

[DragTheWater]

At 2/13/08 03:17 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:14 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:08 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:07 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote: Free speech has to be limited.

But that's not free. You can only abuse it if there's a line and the idea of free speech I always thought was there was no line. There's no guarantee that the general public wouldn't want to skin you alive, but you are entitled to that speech even if it's wrong.

agreed, the more we buy into the "freedom until you abuse it" lie the more we willingly give up our rights, because who says where the line is? today the line is in one place tomorrow it may be in another all on the whim of the powers that be. we can never give up our rights to free speech! once we do then we are nothing but slaves to the government.

[chiefindomer]

At 2/13/08 04:14 AM, DragTheWater wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:17 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:14 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:08 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:07 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote:

agreed, the more we buy into the "freedom until you abuse it" lie the more we willingly give up our rights, because who says where the line is? today the line is in one place tomorrow it may be in another all on the whim of the powers that be. we can never give up our rights to free speech! once we do then we are nothing but slaves to the government.

Well if someone is on a plane and they yell "I have a bomb!" should they get away with it because they have a right to free speech? I think of it like this, as long as what you say doesn't cause harm then it's fine.

[DragTheWater]

At 2/13/08 04:22 AM, chiefindomer wrote:

At 2/13/08 04:14 AM, DragTheWater wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:17 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:14 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:08 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 2/13/08 03:07 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote:

Well if someone is on a plane and they yell "I have a bomb!" should they get away with it because they have a right to free speech? I think of it like this, as long as what you say doesn't cause harm then it's fine.

you tell me how yelling i have a bomb is going to hurt someone? unless some crazy jumps out a window there is no harm done. is it a dick move? yes. should he get slapped around but the angry mob? yes. but the government should make no laws about it. today they give the reasoning that someone might get physically hurt. ok well what about emotional trauma, so no more insulting remarks. well what about sexual harassment, ok no one can talk about sex anymore. it can lead to nothing but problems, and i think the isolated instances where it might hurt somebody are far out weighed by the preservation of our most important right.

[chiefindomer]

At 2/13/08 04:31 AM, DragTheWater wrote:

you tell me how yelling i have a bomb is going to hurt someone? unless some crazy jumps out a window there is no harm done. is it a dick move? yes. should he get slapped around but the angry mob? yes. but the government should make no laws about it. today they give the reasoning that someone might get physically hurt. ok well what about emotional trauma, so no more insulting remarks. well what about sexual harassment, ok no one can talk about sex anymore. it can lead to nothing but problems, and i think the isolated instances where it might hurt somebody are far out weighed by the preservation of our most important right.

You just said yourself a person should "get slapped around by the angry mob" for saying that. I would say that is how someone could get hurt. Some things just shouldn't be said in certain situations. It's really not hard to know when you shouldn't say something. Your freedom of speech doesn't mean you get to verbally harass people. If you walk into a police station and scream "Fuck you pigs!" what do you think is going to happen. But if you are on tv and say "I hate cops, I hope they all die." Then that is your right to express your feelings. Freedom of speech and verbal harassment are two different things and anybody with some common sense knows the difference.