Im a liberal anarchist

[Stalker868]

Listen to the dead kennedys thats all i have to say about anything.

[Slizor]

Ummm?

[anhnonymous]

So a punk rock band determines your political status? Why not just give your vote to them. No wait... in Anarchy there is no voting. Chaos reigns supreme. I wander where you would be in you own little dream world? Probably hiding out "underground" still. Going against the status quo again maybe? And let me ask you how did you get to LEVEL 08? Could you have VOTED for something? Giving out ranks and points, putting flash movies in ORDER. Engaging yourself in a popularity contest? Succumbing to the very thing that you stand for? You are a hypocritical dinosaur lost in the new age of democracy. And we all know what happens to dinosaurs.

[Slizor]

Why not just give your vote to them. No wait... in Anarchy there is no voting. Chaos reigns supreme. I wander where you would be in you own little dream world? Probably hiding out "underground" still. Going against the status quo again maybe? And let me ask you how did you get to LEVEL 08? Could you have VOTED for something? Giving out ranks and points, putting flash movies in ORDER. Engaging yourself in a popularity contest? Succumbing to the very thing that you stand for?

Ok Mr Know-it-all firstly he is on level six, not eight. Anarchy is not being against democracy, it is having no centralised government, in other words you can actually have organisations, those organisations would have to have leaders, guess how hey would decide? Lastly "Succumbing to the very thing that you stand for?" means that he has succumb to Anarchy...........Dick

[anhnonymous]

"Succumbing to the very thing that you stand for?" means that he has succumb to Anarchy...........Dick

Temper...temper. Calm down stubborn one. I'm sure you all know what I meant. Let me rephrase that for you, "Succmbing to the very thing that you are against." There does that make sense? There's no need to point that out but since you have no real argument except to cave in and say that chaos must have some order. Organizations with leaders...deciding this and that? Hmmm... that sounds vaguely familiar? Anyways my first reply was to stalker868. And yet he still has no answers for me. Better luck next time, huh?

[reddeadrevolver]

At 6/26/01 03:17 PM, anhnonymous wrote: So a punk rock band determines your political status? Why not just give your vote to them. No wait... in Anarchy there is no voting. Chaos reigns supreme. I wander where you would be in you own little dream world? Probably hiding out "underground" still. Going against the status quo again maybe? And let me ask you how did you get to LEVEL 08? Could you have VOTED for something? Giving out ranks and points, putting flash movies in ORDER. Engaging yourself in a popularity contest? Succumbing to the very thing that you stand for? You are a hypocritical dinosaur lost in the new age of democracy. And we all know what happens to dinosaurs.

I dont think that he meant that because he listens to the Dead Kennedys (who just happen to rock) determines his political standpoint. It was two different thoughts. I'm probably wrong. Oh well. No offense or anything.

[Slizor]

There's no need to point that out but since you have no real argument except to cave in and say that chaos must have some order. Organizations with leaders...deciding this and that? Hmmm... that sounds vaguely familiar? Anyways my first reply was to stalker868. And yet he still has no answers for me. Better luck next time, huh?

You mis-interprit me, I am saying that Anarchy isn't chaos, I'm saying what it means is no centralised government.

[anhnonymous]

:I dont think that he meant that because he listens to the Dead Kennedys (who just happen to rock) determines his political standpoint. It was two different thoughts. I'm probably wrong. Oh well. No offense or anything.

No offense taken or anything else for that matter. I'm still waiting for stalker to reply and give us more insight. I use to listen to the Dead Kennedys although I didn't necessarily agree with their agenda (and yes they did rock). But the topic was titled "I'm a liberal anarchist."

[anhnonymous]

:I You mis-interprit me, I am saying that Anarchy isn't chaos, I'm saying what it means is no centralised government.

You are a FUCKING ROCK! And I don't mean hard as a... You have no fucking gray matter. Look up anarchy in the dictionary...better yet I will do it for you. MainEntry: an·ar·chy
Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-kE, -"när-
Function: noun
Etymology: Medieval Latin anarchia, from Greek, from anarchos having no ruler, from an- + archos ruler -- more at ARCH-
Date: 1539
1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order c : chaos DISORDER <not manicured plots but a wild anarchy of nature -- Israel Shenker>
3 : ANARCHISM

AAAAHHHHH!!! Stop replying until you get a proofreader to doublecheck your statements. Absence of order=CHAOS!!! Chaos=no order!!! Stay in school.

[Slizor]

1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

[Anarchon]

At 6/26/01 03:17 PM, anhnonymous wrote: So a punk rock band determines your political status? Why not just give your vote to them. No wait... in Anarchy there is no voting. Chaos reigns supreme. I wander where you would be in you own little dream world? Probably hiding out "underground" still. Going against the status quo again maybe? And let me ask you how did you get to LEVEL 08? Could you have VOTED for something? Giving out ranks and points, putting flash movies in ORDER. Engaging yourself in a popularity contest? Succumbing to the very thing that you stand for? You are a hypocritical dinosaur lost in the new age of democracy. And we all know what happens to dinosaurs.

ummm....... anarchy doesnt mean chaos... http://www.angelfire.com/punk2/MurphyTheSy/Isearch.html

and voting is a way to get certain people to change the system in order to evolve to anarchy without going through chaos

[Anarchon]

At 6/28/01 03:01 PM, Slizor wrote:
1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

no asshole, thats a definition- lets go into the root of the word. "AN" greek for without, none, no, not "ARCHOS" meaning power, rule, reign, government

[pyroarchy]

I like the Dead kennedys cause they have good lyrics that make sense and they play good to, and I like hoe Jello Biafra stands up and tries to change the world or this country, I should run for mayor in my town :p

[reddeadrevolver]

At 6/29/01 08:52 AM, pyroarchy wrote: I like the Dead kennedys cause they have good lyrics that make sense and they play good to, and I like hoe Jello Biafra stands up and tries to change the world or this country, I should run for mayor in my town :p

What's funny is when Eric Boucher (Jello Biafra) ran for mayor of San Francisco (i think), he placed 4th out of like 6 respected politicians.

There is more than one definition for anarchy, like there are several definitions of most words. Seperate definitions for seperate uses. It depends on what type of anarchy you want to practice. There is more than one. Whether you want it done through chaos and rioting, or another manner, is strictly up to that person(s). Not all anarchy equals chaos.

[Slizor]

no asshole, thats a definition- lets go into the root of the word. "AN" greek for without, none, no, not "ARCHOS" meaning power, rule, reign, government

I was actually pointing out that one of the defintions of it that he used proved my point. And political theories cannot be defined with the just the root of the name.

[anhnonymous]

At 6/29/01 12:08 AM, Anarchon wrote:
ummm....... anarchy doesnt mean chaos... http://www.angelfire.com/punk2/MurphyTheSy/Isearch.html

Here we go again...okay... YOUR dreamland of anarchy does not involve chaos. Ideally that's what we all want but it will never happen. We have to get the other countries to agree which also would never happen. Look at the middle east, they can't even agree on what time of day it is. And who's gonna stop a neighboring country from invading and taking over and make everyone face mecca and pray a hundred times a day? And then you'd say..."We can always fight back!" But you got rid of all your weapons in your Food Not Bombs Drive. I'm sorry but your anarchist state would never last for long, not in the real world. We would be a third world country. Wake up! Live in the moment and enjoy what we have now, not what's later. Suck it up, it's not the end of the world. We never had it so good!

[Slizor]

Here we go again...okay... YOUR dreamland of anarchy does not involve chaos. Ideally that's what we all want but it will never happen. We have to get the other countries to agree which also would never happen. Look at the middle east, they can't even agree on what time of day it is. And who's gonna stop a neighboring country from invading and taking over and make everyone face mecca and pray a hundred times a day? And then you'd say..."We can always fight back!" But you got rid of all your weapons in your Food Not Bombs Drive. I'm sorry but your anarchist state would never last for long, not in the real world. We would be a third world country. Wake up! Live in the moment and enjoy what we have now, not what's later. Suck it up, it's not the end of the world. We never had it so good!

You couldn't have just one state anarchic, you think we are fucking stupid? You need the world man!

[wdfcverfgtghm]

At 6/29/01 06:37 PM, Slizor wrote:

Here we go again...okay... YOUR dreamland of anarchy does not involve chaos. Ideally that's what we all want but it will never happen. We have to get the other countries to agree which also would never happen. Look at the middle east, they can't even agree on what time of day it is. And who's gonna stop a neighboring country from invading and taking over and make everyone face mecca and pray a hundred times a day? And then you'd say..."We can always fight back!" But you got rid of all your weapons in your Food Not Bombs Drive. I'm sorry but your anarchist state would never last for long, not in the real world. We would be a third world country. Wake up! Live in the moment and enjoy what we have now, not what's later. Suck it up, it's not the end of the world. We never had it so good!

You couldn't have just one state anarchic, you think we are fucking stupid? You need the world man!

Acually Social experiments of anarchism have been done and surprise surprise they failed. Usually In some mass suicide.

[anhnonymous]

At 6/30/01 10:57 AM, Anarchypenguin wrote:

At 6/29/01 06:37 PM, Slizor wrote:

You couldn't have just one state anarchic, you think we are fucking stupid? You need the world man!

Acually Social experiments of anarchism have been done and surprise surprise they failed. Usually In some mass suicide.

Well NO SHIT SHERLOCK. State of anarchy means the world being in an anarchist state of heirarchy. You are a fucking moron. Read my last reply again but this time read the whole thing. And then read it again. Geezus man stop replying to me.

[Slizor]

Well NO SHIT SHERLOCK. State of anarchy means the world being in an anarchist state of heirarchy. You are a fucking moron. Read my last reply again but this time read the whole thing. And then read it again. Geezus man stop replying to me.

By you saying "Anarchist state of heirarchy" you have truley shown you know absolutely nothing about anarchy, now just shut the hell up and go back to pretending you are clever

[IamJacksalias]

You mean we shouldn't let other people think for us? I thought that was what we were suppposed to do, after all I think that other people know whats best for me, like the Nazis.

[Timisoara]

i sense alot of hostiltiy in this room and not alot of intelegence.

1st: you CANNOT I repeat CANNOT be a liberal anachist by defintion. A socialist anarchist, anarcho-commie, or a leftist anarchist, Yes, but liberalism is very much opposed to anachy and visa-versa.

2nd: the POLITICAL form of anarchy is not mean chaos, other forms of anarchy can.

3rd: Anarchy's main principle is that it is opposed to hierarchies (sp?), wheather in captalism or republic goverment.

research is nessicary to make a good critique of any politcal system as well as an ablity to support it.

[pyroarchy]

At 7/1/01 08:58 PM, Skewthat wrote: i sense alot of hostiltiy in this room and not alot of intelegence.

1st: you CANNOT I repeat CANNOT be a liberal anachist by defintion. A socialist anarchist, anarcho-commie, or a leftist anarchist, Yes, but liberalism is very much opposed to anachy and visa-versa.

2nd: the POLITICAL form of anarchy is not mean chaos, other forms of anarchy can.

3rd: Anarchy's main principle is that it is opposed to hierarchies (sp?), wheather in captalism or republic goverment.

research is nessicary to make a good critique of any politcal system as well as an ablity to support it.

Well then that first guy is a hippocrite...I would just like to rebuild this government and the ways of this country.