It's time for a monthly...

[SmilezRoyale]

Lets debate my parents conservative propaganda emailz!!!! [FTW]

My parents love to send me lots and lots of good conservative emails; So each month [Asuming the thread dies before the completion of the month] I'll post something New and exiting for your enjoyment. Where you can tear it to pieces with your knowledge of politics and global affairs.

These articles were obviously not written by mah and pah; and probably done by some lying right wing pundit; [Chuppa know's all about them and their wrongdoings]

Now is your chance, avenge your brothers! I am more that positive that 50% or more of the facts in this are nothing more than lies. Here are your rules;

1) The facts are the first things that must be debunked; If Individual X says that 'Doctor evil said; We'll take the warhead and hold the world ransom for... 2 chickens' prove him wrong by showing us, the people, the proud, the sane of this country a document stating that doctor evil actually wants 1 billion dollars. [or 1 million, i am not really sure]

2) Something that states an opinion without a fact cannot be proven as wrong, but can be proven as spotty because it has no evidence.

3) False Adamanities are punishable by death. Adamanity is a non existent word created by me, it means an idea that is accepted as an unbreakable truth by you, and therefore, an unbreakable truth to all; Saying that 1+1=2 is not a False Adamanity because it is accepted as true, saying that Hillary Clinton is infact a male, period, no evidence, it's already true; is a false adamanity. Any attempt at false adamanities shall result in your immediate Euthanization

Read below;

[SmilezRoyale]

CRAP! SORRY! i forgot the article [lol irony or wut]

The thing is, you can't be a leader and not know what Islam means. The average Joe pumping gas on Route 66 - okay, not on top of the issue. But there is no way you can be running for President and not know the hell being wreaked on the free and not-so-free world by Islamic jihad.

That said, Barack Obama went to a madrassa in Jakarta. A madrassa in a Muslim country. Whether he was devout or secular, he knows what was taught. He knows what is in the Koran. Even if he is ambiguous, he knows the stakes involved. His father was a Muslim who took three wives (without divorcing). His stepfather and close members of his family are devout Muslims. Not an unimportant influence.

Every Muslim who left Islam is very definitive about leaving and why. They are quite vocal - Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Walid Shoebat, Elijah Abraham, etc. If he left Islam, Obama must have very definite thoughts about it. He has to, he practiced Islam. That is not benign; it's big. And even if, as inferred by big media, it was not big to him, then he can still appreciate how important it is knowing what he knows about Islam and apostasy.

Obama would have had to make a decision to reject Islam. When did he make that decision? How? Why the silence? Why the reluctance to talk about it?

Apostasy is punishable by death in Islam. Have there been calls for Obama's death? If not, why not? Islam gives no free passes.

Obama's posture on this is hard to define or understand, because it is a critical issue.

Transitional issues facing this nation and the world at large - the world at war, creeping sharia, the perversion of the rights of free men, individuals, women, etc., hang in the balance on the make up of the next president of the United States. The stakes could not be higher domestically.

On foreign policy, Europe has laid down. The political elites have capitulated to Islamists and to multiculturalists. Suicide. It seems unclear that they could hold up their end even if America did the heavy lifting.

As far as Israel is concerned, if Obama makes it to the big house, Israel is screwed. Finished. Obama's church and Jew-hating pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., makes that evident. Israel will be on its own.

Perhaps that is necessary, though, because it seems they have relinquished their sovereignty to the US and they expect the US to guarantee their security. Ain't never
If Obama makes it to the big house, Israel is screwed.
gonna' happen. No country, ever, should abdicate its role in protecting and defending itself. Ehud Olmert is on a one-way trip to nowhere. So maybe tough love is necessary, because this relationship is hurting Israel.

The recent revelations of Obama's ties to Raila Odinga in Kenya are disconcerting as well, because Odinga is behind the terrible violence in his country. It was he who instigated bloody riots and killing after he lost the election. Obama's bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenyan government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila's "stooge." And while there are few angels in Kenya, Odinga is the source of great unrest and turmoil; and the MOU he signed with the Muslim Council to institute sharia is a foreshadowing of a dark fate for Kenya. (A Jacksonian picked up on my previous post on this and wrote a lengthy, well-researched piece on the politics and back story on Odinga.) Just how quickly will Kenya go Islamic?

We must be allowed to ask these questions. I do not embrace change for the sake of change - the impossible new buzzword on the campaign trail. Jimmy Carter was the dark horse, the new unknown, and he was an unmitigated disaster. The worst, most damaging president in US history, in my opinion.

This could be even worse. And so, I implore my fellow Americans to question, question, question. The potential damage to this country is incalculable. These are dangerous times, my friends; reckless and capricious intellectual laziness will have disastrous consequences.

[BeFell]

Oh of all the things it is time for a monthly of I was hoping you would say a kick in the ass. You know because you could use one... regularly.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 2/9/08 11:26 PM, BeFell wrote: Oh of all the things it is time for a monthly of I was hoping you would say a kick in the ass. You know because you could use one... regularly.

You've broken rule 3.

[Ravariel]

At 2/9/08 11:36 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

At 2/9/08 11:26 PM, BeFell wrote: Oh of all the things it is time for a monthly of I was hoping you would say a kick in the ass. You know because you could use one... regularly.

You've broken rule 3.

I'm not sure he has. I think it's fair to say we ALL need a kick in the ass on a regular basis. Keeps us on our toes.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

At 2/9/08 10:33 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

The thing is, you can't be a leader and not know what Islam means. The average Joe pumping gas on Route 66 - okay, not on top of the issue. But there is no way you can be running for President and not know the hell being wreaked on the free and not-so-free world by Islamic jihad.

Jihad doesn't ALWAYS mean war, but yeah.

That said, Barack Obama went to a madrassa in Jakarta. A madrassa in a Muslim country. Whether he was devout or secular, he knows what was taught. He knows what is in the Koran. Even if he is ambiguous, he knows the stakes involved. His father was a Muslim who took three wives (without divorcing). His stepfather and close members of his family are devout Muslims. Not an unimportant influence.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/mus lim.asp

His father was NOT a muslim. Not that it would matter, since his father moved when he was two. Obama DID Attend Muslim AND CATHOLIC SCHOOLS, not due to religion, but do to what was the schools with the best educational skills.

Furthermore, the Muslim school was NOT A MADRASSA. He attended Basuki, which is almost entirely a muslim student body, but describes itself as a PUBLIC SCHOOL THAT DOESN'T GIVE PREFERENCE TO ANY ONE RELIGION.

Every Muslim who left Islam is very definitive about leaving and why.

They have met every ex-Muslim, ever?

They are quite vocal - Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Walid Shoebat, Elijah Abraham, etc.

Only 4 people left Islam?

If he left Islam, Obama must have very definite thoughts about it. He has to, he practiced Islam. That is not benign; it's big. And even if, as inferred by big media, it was not big to him, then he can still appreciate how important it is knowing what he knows about Islam and apostasy.

I've never seen evidence that once Obama was of age to understand matters of religion, he continued practicing Islam, as opposed to his current religion of Christianity.

Obama would have had to make a decision to reject Islam. When did he make that decision? How? Why the silence? Why the reluctance to talk about it?

He probably decided on his own that the religion was false; not that hard with an atheist father and a mother that didn't enforce the teachings of Islam or stifle free expression.

Apostasy is punishable by death in Islam. Have there been calls for Obama's death? If not, why not? Islam gives no free passes.

Because Obama isn't a Muslim. He's not an "ex" Muslim, he just ISN'T a Muslim.

Oh, and by their logic, Elton John isn't gay. The bible says to slaughter all gays, yet swaths of christians haven't stoned elton john; therefor he CANT BE GAY.

Obama's posture on this is hard to define or understand, because it is a critical issue.

When he says clearly he IS NOT a Muslim, but a dedicated Christian, how is it hard to understand? Oh, because the writers of this are lying neo-cons, whom tend to be retarded.

Transitional issues facing this nation and the world at large - the world at war, creeping sharia, the perversion of the rights of free men, individuals, women, etc., hang in the balance on the make up of the next president of the United States. The stakes could not be higher domestically.

Huh?

On foreign policy, Europe has laid down. The political elites have capitulated to Islamists and to multiculturalists. Suicide. It seems unclear that they could hold up their end even if America did the heavy lifting.

Oh no... how dare they not outlaw Islam?

As far as Israel is concerned, if Obama makes it to the big house, Israel is screwed. Finished. Obama's church and Jew-hating pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., makes that evident. Israel will be on its own.

Obama may not share the political views of his pastor.

Perhaps that is necessary, though, because it seems they have relinquished their sovereignty to the US and they expect the US to guarantee their security.

Wait, what?

gonna' happen. No country, ever, should abdicate its role in protecting and defending itself. Ehud Olmert is on a one-way trip to nowhere. So maybe tough love is necessary, because this relationship is hurting Israel.

Excuse me? Post WW2 Japan?

The recent revelations of Obama's ties to Raila Odinga in Kenya are disconcerting as well, because Odinga is behind the terrible violence in his country. It was he who instigated bloody riots and killing after he lost the election. Obama's bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenyan government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila's "stooge." And while there are few angels in Kenya, Odinga is the source of great unrest and turmoil; and the MOU he signed with the Muslim Council to institute sharia is a foreshadowing of a dark fate for Kenya. (A Jacksonian picked up on my previous post on this and wrote a lengthy, well-researched piece on the politics and back story on Odinga.) Just how quickly will Kenya go Islamic?

A) I dont know shit about this,
B) Many expresidents had good relations with bloody tyrants.

We must be allowed to ask these questions. I do not embrace change for the sake of change - the impossible new buzzword on the campaign trail. Jimmy Carter was the dark horse, the new unknown, and he was an unmitigated disaster. The worst, most damaging president in US history, in my opinion.

Then this persons a dipshit.

This could be even worse. And so, I implore my fellow Americans to question, question, question. The potential damage to this country is incalculable. These are dangerous times, my friends; reckless and capricious intellectual laziness will have disastrous consequences.

Wait, why is their damage? Even if he WAS A muslim (he isn't, thats one of those right-wing lies about peoples character they love so much), I don't think it would be worse then, say, another term of G.W.

[SmilezRoyale]

Thanks, i sent the link.

That should keep them busy for awhile.

[zoolrule]

it's so long :o