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At 9/18/03 10:11 PM, punk_disease wrote:

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Factory farms are the main suppliers of meat companies because THEIR product is mass-produced so it costs less, kinda like buying in bulk. So unless I live in a farm, my burger had its throat slit when it was still alive and then hung by its feet.

But that's the best time, because the heart can pump all the blood out of the body and remove that "gamey" flavor. Besides, throat slitting is relatively humane compared to what was in the video. Milk, eggs and meat can all be attained humanely through things like hand milking, free range chickens, and hunting. If you buy kosher or organic foods, this is what your get. It costs more, but it IS available. If we make humane treatment economically viable, it will become the norm. Until people care more about animals than money, this current state of affairs will continue. Frankly, I DO value money over animals, so I fully agree with these activities. I don't say I don't care, because I do. I just care about money, and not animals who would are destined by nature and genetics to be eaten by SOMETHING anyway.

that kinda sucks huh but i'm still really hungry and i don't like alec baldwin

At 9/18/03 10:36 AM, Sellout_316 wrote: Who the ^$&% do you think you are? telling me to go outside..do something? Shut the fuck up!

Signs that you haven't left the computer for a week are present. Getting cancer at a young age won't help you, but at least that'll be one less troll here.

You want me to say something productive?

Only AFTER 9 pages of nonsense? Who do you think we are?

Listen!... I have been, for the last 2-3 weeks, on this message board, talking to the same dumbass people who make comments on killing grass, snakes getting caught in machinery, and how cows are stupid and deserve to die. These are uneducated, unresearched facts from not even god knows where, and most importantely, off the topic that is posted on Page 1, Post 1.

Stop making facts up. They gave a point for you to argue against and you said "SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU FUCKING PIECES OF CRAP SHIT!" because they didn't praise you as a new messiah. Let's see: What points did you make? One. Punk did ALL of the more intelligent pro-vegan post here, even if I don't agree with him. Stop taking credit for what you didn't do.

Now the reason why it seems that all I have been doing is swearing instead of making intelligent points, is cause shitheads (mind you, you are one of the few people, Unimpossible, who have come closest to making descent points) come on and talk about the same stupid shit how chickens are retarded and mice get caught in agricultural equipment and a sweatshop burned down back in 1881. You wanna read intelligent replies of mine? Go back and read my old stuff...cause I only answer to things once! And I dont answer to "Im gonna go buy a burger and throw it out just to piss you off"

But you do answer to the above posts. Many times in this topic. YOU NEVER MADE ANY POINTS, BESIDES THAT ANIMALS ARE MISTREATED. That's final.

So you know what? I got over 1000 mother-fuckin' views on this mb, and even if I got through to one person, mission accomplished.

Big deal. Why not start cutting down trees and destroying rain forests to start printing ads against eating meat? What would it mean to me if one person stopped eating meat? Answer that.

So shut your 15 year -old mouth, and if you think this message board is stupid, get off.

Oh please. You aren't a mod, and never will be. I never said that the BBS is stupid. I've tried to be nice, and understanding, but you really come close to being a total asshole, and flaming idiot to boot, and my patience is running out quick. If you can't live with other people's opinions, consider living away from humanity. Otherwise, put up and shut up.

BOO YAH!

Wow. Finding a picture on the internet and typing a few letters on it is so dammed hard. Why not post even larger graphics so to waste bandwidth?

sellout do you honestly expect that anything you or any group does to make people vegetarian will work enough to shut down the meat industry. or even slow it? because it doesn't look like you've won any converts here.

Tribute to punk_disease

At 9/19/03 10:10 AM, Sellout_316 wrote: Tribute to punk_disease

You know what, why don't you enlarge it, and put it in every post you make? Since you deserve to waste bandwidth, and be acknowledged for all the hard work in typing a few letters on a picture that doesn't belong to you.

At 9/19/03 10:16 AM, UNpossible wrote:

At 9/19/03 10:10 AM, Sellout_316 wrote: Tribute to punk_disease

You know what, why don't you enlarge it, and put it in every post you make? Since you deserve to waste bandwidth, and be acknowledged for all the hard work in typing a few letters on a picture that doesn't belong to you.

Waa waa waa! *sob* I'm uploading a pic that is 17k! poor bandwith. poor Unpossible. : (

does anyone remember when this post was made in the hopes of a real discussion?

now the topic starter has obviously gone insane... good work to the apathetic crew

Since this issue was brought to my attention, I have now started getting serious thrills from eating a 99p pack of ham.

Alec "Beat My Wife" Baldwin is trying to tell me how to live my life? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

At 9/19/03 10:10 AM, Sellout_316 wrote: Tribute to punk_disease

the funny thing is I look JUST like silent bob. I see PD as more of a Jay, or possibly a Randall.

Sellout, please make a point, backed up with more than a propaganda video made by a lobby group. Get some indepented evidence or something, just use mor ethat a brainwash video to back up your ideas, maybe youll do better then.

Meat is bad

Animals are our friends

Vegetarians are cool

Meat eaters are evil

Sellout is our lord and savior

Jay and Silent Bob are much cooler now

I am wearing no pants

I am the queen of Spain

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

</brainwashing therapy>

At 9/18/03 08:06 PM, punk_disease wrote:

At 9/17/03 02:17 PM, dudeitsallama wrote: Ok, fine. Cat's play with their prey and they don't even get money for it. I say that counts as torture.

The cat doesn't that what it's doing is "torture". It is merely sharpening its hunting skills. What humans do is beat animals just for the hell of it and because often it's more cost-efficient.

So it's wrong for people to try to make money so they can live happy, comfortable lives, but a fucking cat can torture a mouse in the last precious moments of its life to improve hunting skills that it doesn't really even need and that's just fine?

Besides, if the cat, which I would consider a very intelligent animal, doesn't realize that what it's doing is torture, that proves my point that animals are stupid and don't deserve any rights.

Don't we have the same rights as cats?

Not unless cats get the same rights as you.

Fine. Let's give cats the vote. They'll probably be better at it than some people.

At 9/19/03 10:20 AM, Sellout_316 wrote: Waa waa waa! *sob* I'm uploading a pic that is 17k! poor bandwith. poor Unpossible. : (

Oh boo hoo. Spam is still spam. Besides, I know how hard it is to find pictures of perpetually stoned guys on the internet, and then find out, that kind of nonsense belongs in the General BBS.

Really now, if you can't bring up any intelligent points after 9 pages, consider going to the General forums to stay. Otherwise, grow up some, and stop flaming everyone that does not share your mind.