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At 2/10/08 06:54 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 2/10/08 06:47 PM, DeathAura wrote:

If lies anger you, I can surely make you happy. This is true, McCain is a war machine. Its because he grew up in WW2 And vietnom, making him want to attack everything. We don't need a president that is a WW2 guy, WE NEED CHANGE!

He must've only been around 10-13 years old when WWII ended...

That still influences him greatly, and makes it worse since he's in his adolescent age.

At 2/10/08 02:14 PM, K-RadPie wrote:

At 2/10/08 04:31 AM, DeathAura wrote: woops, link screwd up, here it is http://theviewfromsteeltown.blogspot.com /2008/02/would-mccain-invade-venezuela-i f.html

blogspot.com...

Sounds extremely credible.

I'm too lazy, but if you want more, than get more. Its not my responsibility to tell you whats going on with the world. You should know this stuff already.

At 2/10/08 07:00 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/10/08 02:14 PM, K-RadPie wrote:

At 2/10/08 04:31 AM, DeathAura wrote: woops, link screwd up, here it is http://theviewfromsteeltown.blogspot.com /2008/02/would-mccain-invade-venezuela-i f.html

blogspot.com...

Sounds extremely credible.

I'm too lazy, but if you want more, than get more. Its not my responsibility to tell you whats going on with the world. You should know this stuff already.

You started the debate, the burden of proof is on YOU, not him. And most people don't trust blogs, much less the ones that are biased towards socialism. Now provide me with a credible news source or GTFO.

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At 2/10/08 06:59 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/10/08 06:54 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 2/10/08 06:47 PM, DeathAura wrote:

If lies anger you, I can surely make you happy. This is true, McCain is a war machine. Its because he grew up in WW2 And vietnom, making him want to attack everything. We don't need a president that is a WW2 guy, WE NEED CHANGE!

Gandhi was around during WW2; and he was the most violent guy eva!!!! But come on, how the hell does that make a difference in what kind of man gandhi is? I mean wtf.

You have to be a troll or your one of the dumbest people around.

At 2/10/08 06:47 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/10/08 11:50 AM, TheRat wrote:

If lies anger you, I can surely make you happy. This is true, McCain is a war machine. Its because he grew up in WW2 And vietnom, making him want to attack everything. We don't need a president that is a WW2 guy, WE NEED CHANGE!

I'm fairly certain that Vietnam didn't provide McCain with warm memories, especially the time he spent in a Viet Cong prison camp. This would make him less likely to go to war, not more likely.

Also, before you go posting based solely on the rantings of a blog, perhaps you should read the whole source cited before jumping to conclusions. McCain was primarily addressing the fact that our foreign policy concerns are too focused on the Middle East when we should also be focusing on Latin American countries as well. Far from trying to attack Venezuela for oil, it would appear that he is using Venezuela to promote research into alternative energy sources to get us off of oil. It appears that he will take a tough stance against Venezuela, but much of this will be focused on limiting Venezuela's influence and isolating Venezuela rather than outright attacking them. I won't say for certain that McCain doesn't have an invasion in mind, but I believe it is very unlikely that he does.

At 2/10/08 04:34 AM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/9/08 07:13 PM, dySWN wrote:

At 2/8/08 10:54 PM, DeathAura wrote: LOL I am teh epic flamebait

Fixed.

Average republican doings...

No, the truth is non-partisan.

At 2/10/08 07:14 PM, tehmaster690 wrote:

At 2/10/08 07:00 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/10/08 02:14 PM, K-RadPie wrote:

At 2/10/08 04:31 AM, DeathAura wrote: woops, link screwd up, here it is http://theviewfromsteeltown.blogspot.com /2008/02/would-mccain-invade-venezuela-i f.html

blogspot.com...

Sounds extremely credible.

I'm too lazy, but if you want more, than get more. Its not my responsibility to tell you whats going on with the world. You should know this stuff already.

You started the debate, the burden of proof is on YOU, not him. And most people don't trust blogs, much less the ones that are biased towards socialism. Now provide me with a credible news source or GTFO.

Nice language for one, and two, McCain knows that if he goes and blabs about this now, know ones gonna vote for him, so he's kind-of keeping it secret. Listen to things he sais about Venezuela. Oh, thats right, you watch fox, so your in a la la land of Republicans.

At 2/10/08 10:35 PM, NHT123 wrote:

At 2/10/08 06:59 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/10/08 06:54 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 2/10/08 06:47 PM, DeathAura wrote:

If lies anger you, I can surely make you happy. This is true, McCain is a war machine. Its because he grew up in WW2 And vietnom, making him want to attack everything. We don't need a president that is a WW2 guy, WE NEED CHANGE!

Gandhi was around during WW2; and he was the most violent guy eva!!!! But come on, how the hell does that make a difference in what kind of man gandhi is? I mean wtf.

You have to be a troll or your one of the dumbest people around.

Gandhi was influenced from WW2 In a different way. Americans made everyone completely depsise Nazis in everyway, making him more obsessed with it. He was also around the age of 13, making it more of a natural thing for him. Than he had to go through the Cold war, Vietnam, and the korean war. Think before you speak please.

At 2/11/08 04:10 AM, VigilanteNighthawk wrote:

At 2/10/08 06:47 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/10/08 11:50 AM, TheRat wrote:

If lies anger you, I can surely make you happy. This is true, McCain is a war machine. Its because he grew up in WW2 And vietnom, making him want to attack everything. We don't need a president that is a WW2 guy, WE NEED CHANGE!

I'm fairly certain that Vietnam didn't provide McCain with warm memories, especially the time he spent in a Viet Cong prison camp. This would make him less likely to go to war, not more likely.

Also, before you go posting based solely on the rantings of a blog, perhaps you should read the whole source cited before jumping to conclusions. McCain was primarily addressing the fact that our foreign policy concerns are too focused on the Middle East when we should also be focusing on Latin American countries as well. Far from trying to attack Venezuela for oil, it would appear that he is using Venezuela to promote research into alternative energy sources to get us off of oil. It appears that he will take a tough stance against Venezuela, but much of this will be focused on limiting Venezuela's influence and isolating Venezuela rather than outright attacking them. I won't say for certain that McCain doesn't have an invasion in mind, but I believe it is very unlikely that he does.

The blog isn't my only proof. Listen to the way he talks about Venezuela. And it makes him in an attack type position. In a time of fear, war freaks, and 2-digit-Iq people freak out. McCain is not only a war-affected person, but a 2-digit-IQ person. You know what he meant by "concentraiting" on Latin American countries, right? Really, we shouldn't give a screw about them right now, but McCain wants to more than anyone else... Sound suspicious?

At 2/11/08 11:00 AM, dySWN wrote:

At 2/10/08 04:34 AM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/9/08 07:13 PM, dySWN wrote:

At 2/8/08 10:54 PM, DeathAura wrote: LOL I am teh epic flamebait

Fixed.

Average republican doings...

No, I'm not a republican, I'm a Mormon!

Lets turn it around here

Omg... please never crowd the threads with quadruple posts ever again.

At 2/11/08 06:11 PM, Christopherr wrote: Omg... please never crowd the threads with quadruple posts ever again.

sorry, just gotta make everyone have an open mind...

At 2/11/08 06:04 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/11/08 11:00 AM, dySWN wrote:

At 2/10/08 04:34 AM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/9/08 07:13 PM, dySWN wrote:

At 2/8/08 10:54 PM, DeathAura wrote: LOL I am teh epic flamebait

Fixed.

Average republican doings...

No, I'm not a republican, I'm a Mormon!

Lets turn it around here

Don't see where you're going with this.

PROTIP: dySWN = Catholic

If we want oil why not just invade Alaska?

[Caribou resistance and suicide bombers will be weak, and we will conquer them with ease, their armies are fragmented and lack the superior technology and tactics that we posses. ]

At 2/10/08 06:47 PM, DeathAura wrote: If lies anger you, I can surely make you happy. This is true, McCain is a war machine. Its because he grew up in WW2 And vietnom, making him want to attack everything. We don't need a president that is a WW2 guy, WE NEED CHANGE!

Fuck you, like you have any idea what it was like back then.

At 2/11/08 06:55 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: If we want oil why not just invade Alaska?

[Caribou resistance and suicide bombers will be weak, and we will conquer them with ease, their armies are fragmented and lack the superior technology and tactics that we posses. ]

Shh, we don't have time for your rational solutions!

Haha. Wow. OP you are an idiot. Also, laff@ the guy who spelled SOLDIER, "soldger".

OMG--
The status quo of dumb is overflowing in this post--

Just so much dumb speculation and unfounded accusations...

At 2/11/08 06:29 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/11/08 06:11 PM, Christopherr wrote: Omg... please never crowd the threads with quadruple posts ever again.

sorry, just gotta make everyone have an open mind...

Our minds closed thanks to you.

At 2/11/08 06:29 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/11/08 06:11 PM, Christopherr wrote: Omg... please never crowd the threads with quadruple posts ever again.

sorry, just gotta make everyone have an open mind...

You DON'T have a mind, period!

At 2/10/08 06:47 PM, DeathAura wrote:

If lies anger you, I can surely make you happy. This is true, McCain is a war machine. Its because he grew up in WW2 And vietnom, making him want to attack everything. We don't need a president that is a WW2 guy, WE NEED CHANGE!

good god, they really programmed you didn't they? a person who has seen war doesn't automatically make them a war machine. perhaps you should stop with the liberal rhetoric and actually think about it. Bush never went to war, he has no idea what war is about. McCain has seen it all, even the POW camps. He is far less likely to wage a war, and if he DOES he will know how to handle it much better than bush.

I keep hearing from people wanting to vote democrat "ZOMGZ WE NEEDZ CHANGE!!!" This is just a rhetorical phrase which has little meaning. no matter who gets into office, it will be business as usual. both sides working together to keep the populace split and while seeming to counter each other, are working together to make sure that the rich stay rich, the poor stay poor, and that they remain the ONLY 2 parties in government. If the people unite, the political parties are screwed. if a 3rd party arises, the first 2 parties are screwed. once 1 new party emerges, others will follow.

At 2/11/08 06:29 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/11/08 06:11 PM, Christopherr wrote: Omg... please never crowd the threads with quadruple posts ever again.

sorry, just gotta make everyone have an open mind...

words of someone with a closed mind that has been programmed by the liberals. You leave me no choice... I'm gonna have to give you an E-bitchslap. Hopefully it will bring you to your senses and make you go find some actual proof that Mccain wants to invade, rather than some guy trying to push his political agenda by making false accusations.

At 2/12/08 11:17 AM, Korriken wrote: If the people unite, the political parties are screwed. if a 3rd party arises, the first 2 parties are screwed. once 1 new party emerges, others will follow.

Let's start the newgrounds party.

At 2/10/08 04:31 AM, DeathAura wrote: woops, link screwd up, here it is http://theviewfromsteeltown.blogspot.com /2008/02/would-mccain-invade-venezuela-i f.html

"The countries of Latin America are the natural partners of the United States, and yet it hardly feels that way today. Anti-Americanism is on the rise in much of the region. The attention of U.S. leaders and the media have shifted toward Iraq, Afghanistan, the broader Middle East and the war on terror. As we have devoted attention and energies to other regions, other, dangerous forces have moved into the breach. Hugo Chavez has used the cloak of electoral legitimacy to establish a one party dictatorship in Venezuela, breathed new oxygen into the decaying Castro regime in Cuba, allied with Iran and other American enemies, and supported populist, anti-American forces throughout the hemisphere. [source of the quote on that page] While the United States has been pre-occupied elsewhere, China has launched a diplomatic and economic offensive in the region, with uncertain intentions and outcomes. And there is a growing rejection among some Latin Amer icans of the free-market democracy that has been so painfully achieved. "We can and we must do better. I have seen the difficult journey this region has made since the 1970s and 80s, a time of war and dictatorship, of hyperinflation and economic stagnation. The Latin America I know is a hopeful place, which prizes its hard won freedom, seizes new economic opportunities and remains a firm partner of the United States. If I am elected president, the United States will forge a new policy toward Latin America and the Caribbean Basin founded on peace and security, shared prosperity, democracy and freedom, and mutual respect." [conspicuously left out]

The article itself is dated June of 2007, if he had in any way stated that we needed to go to war with Venezuela, the media would have been all over it and his chances of getting the Republican Party nomination would have went circling down the drain a long time ago.

Did you know that the Viet Cong messed with him so much in the prison camps that he can't raise his arms above his shoulders?

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to go to war.

The reason why he supports staying in Iraq and Afghanistan is because he thinks "We've gotten in this war, now we are stuck in it."

I agree with him.

At 2/12/08 06:45 PM, lemonsourkid wrote: don't worry obauma will win

Hey yeah no.

Focus on the topic: Ridiculing the dumb thread maker as much as possible.

At 2/12/08 06:41 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 2/10/08 04:31 AM, DeathAura wrote: woops, link screwd up, here it is http://theviewfromsteeltown.blogspot.com /2008/02/would-mccain-invade-venezuela-i f.html

"The countries of Latin America are the natural partners of the United States, and yet it hardly feels that way today. Anti-Americanism is on the rise in much of the region. The attention of U.S. leaders and the media have shifted toward Iraq, Afghanistan, the broader Middle East and the war on terror. As we have devoted attention and energies to other regions, other, dangerous forces have moved into the breach. Hugo Chavez has used the cloak of electoral legitimacy to establish a one party dictatorship in Venezuela, breathed new oxygen into the decaying Castro regime in Cuba, allied with Iran and other American enemies, and supported populist, anti-American forces throughout the hemisphere. [source of the quote on that page] While the United States has been pre-occupied elsewhere, China has launched a diplomatic and economic offensive in the region, with uncertain intentions and outcomes. And there is a growing rejection among some Latin Amer icans of the free-market democracy that has been so painfully achieved. "We can and we must do better. I have seen the difficult journey this region has made since the 1970s and 80s, a time of war and dictatorship, of hyperinflation and economic stagnation. The Latin America I know is a hopeful place, which prizes its hard won freedom, seizes new economic opportunities and remains a firm partner of the United States. If I am elected president, the United States will forge a new policy toward Latin America and the Caribbean Basin founded on peace and security, shared prosperity, democracy and freedom, and mutual respect." [conspicuously left out]

The article itself is dated June of 2007, if he had in any way stated that we needed to go to war with Venezuela, the media would have been all over it and his chances of getting the Republican Party nomination would have went circling down the drain a long time ago.

hmmmm, For one, why is venezuela trying to sew us? For two, they don't have to be friendly or unfriendly. McCains the one invading. Two major flaws in your wrighting. Once again, no one has actual proof in this argument. I still don't know it 100 percent because McCain might go crazy and revert to a kinder form. God damnit, anything can happen!.................................
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At 2/12/08 11:25 AM, Korriken wrote:

At 2/11/08 06:29 PM, DeathAura wrote:

At 2/11/08 06:11 PM, Christopherr wrote: Omg... please never crowd the threads with quadruple posts ever again.

sorry, just gotta make everyone have an open mind...

words of someone with a closed mind that has been programmed by the liberals. You leave me no choice... I'm gonna have to give you an E-bitchslap. Hopefully it will bring you to your senses and make you go find some actual proof that Mccain wants to invade, rather than some guy trying to push his political agenda by making false accusations.

Actually, I Thought of this myself. I found other smart people see this too. And if i kept too much of an open mind, than there would be NO argument or debates, so whats the point if I agree to the bullshit everybody says? McCain is obviously smart enough to comprehend that if he says it in a statement, than he's gonna get screwd. And you know what, you don't have any proof that he's not. I'm not making false accusations. I've watched what he said. Its not a fact, Its a theory. I used logics to comprehend this. You can't just walk up to people and say "I'm right, and because your "wrong" about your THEORY, I'm gonna "E-bitchslap" you.