Mississipi seeks to ban Fat people

[Proteas]

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Mississippi Pols Seek To Ban Fats
New bill would make it illegal for restaurants to serve the obese

FEBRUARY 1--Mississippi legislators this week introduced a bill that would make it illegal for state-licensed restaurants to serve obese patrons. Bill No. 282, a copy of which you'll find below, is the brainchild of three members of the state's House of Representatives, Republicans W. T. Mayhall, Jr. and John Read, and Democrat Bobby Shows. The bill, which is likely dead on arrival, proposes that the state's Department of Health establish weight criteria after consultation with Mississippi's Council on Obesity. It does not detail what penalties an eatery would face if its grub was served to someone with an excessive body mass index. (2 pages)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/yea rs/2008/0201081fat1.html

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You're eyes do not deceive you, this article is not a hoax. Three of our nation's esteemed representatives have seen fit to introduce a bill to ban people deemed by the state to be obese from eating in public restaurants.

As one local political commentator put it, "God forbid you be an overweight smoker holding a big-mac, they might send you to the Gas Chamber here shortly."

[ToothBrushMan]

Mississippi. Mississippi. They should have had a test run of this bill in Milwakee - then they would have gotten their faces ripped off.

[SmilezRoyale]

Honestly, you could do the EXACT same thing [in terms of 'desired effect' By simply granting people MORE freedom.

Example! hospitals can now reject patients on a weight basis.

they CAN reject patients, they don't HAVE to. Evolution reduces the overweight population, and we did nothing but grant freedom.

It's IDEAL!

[stafffighter]

So are they going to weigh them there for technicality of obesity or are they going by an eye judgment thing? That could become a legal issue. What if they're right on the cusp and they cross the line somewhere within the meal?

In all seriousness, smoking: can hurt people around you. Being a fatass: really only affects you and your loved ones.

[SEXY-FETUS]

It's a bill they don't plan on passing they just want to put it out there for "awareness" The guy who wrote it jokes he couldn't find a place to eat legally at his current size.

[JudgeDredd]

This is a problem that could spread (pardon the pun), and we might soon see fat tax at the airports, or obese regularly weighed at check-in and refused a boarding pass altogether.

Infact, fat is the new carbon footprint ..call it fatprint. They use more fuel whether they fly of drive across country. They cost cost more in hospitals. They add costs to 'weight bearing loads' in structural engineering design. Everywhere they go, there's more consideration and expense.

Obviously fat people should be confined to their houses (or at least those that can barely get out their front door ;-)

[svenisgod]

haha! thats awesome! it should so pass!

[SmilezRoyale]

What you people don't get are the implications of implimenting policies at groups of people...

Do you know how ANNOYING civil rights movements are...?

Don't try oppressing them, it become TORTURE in the future.

[LazyDrunk]

A dutch study found that fat people and smokers cost the health care system less on the whole than healthy people, laregly because they die an average of 10-20 sooner.

I think anyone serving more than 8 years in any public office should be automatically executed in public, with whatever method the public votes on.

Now THAT'S freedom.

[Brick-top]

Is this world slipping towards communism or is it just me?

Freedoms are slipping through our fingers.

[Al6200]

I have a feeling that it would encourage the obese to take a serious look at their condition. But the law is ridiculously unenforceable and, in some ways, cruel (think of you going out with a date and being told to leave because you're too fat)

A much better policy that would probably have the same effect would be a law requiring doctors to warn their patients if they're significantly overweight and show them the risks of diabetes, heart disease, stroke, etc.

[reviewer-general]

Most hilarious thing I have heard all day!

;

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

I agree completely; fat people are so gross, we should legally ban them.

Old people too. Old people are gross, so we should also legally segregate them too.

Oh, and short people.

And Homosexuals.

And the Crippled.

And the Jewish.

And the Gypsies.

And everyone else that doesn't admire the will of the National Socialist party.

Wait, what the fuck where we talking about?

[ToothBrushMan]

At 2/6/08 10:43 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: I agree completely; fat people are so gross, we should legally ban them.

Old people too. Old people are gross, so we should also legally segregate them too.

Oh, and short people.

And Homosexuals.

And the Crippled.

And the Jewish.

And the Gypsies.

And everyone else that doesn't admire the will of the National Socialist party.

Wait, what the fuck where we talking about?

I'm pretty sure that obesity is not in the same category as all of those things (except maybe the crippled, but ... what?). It could be a case of public health over idcrimination. The writers of the bill were probably not thinking "fat people are gross" when they wrote it. But there are better ways to promote public health.

[therealsylvos]

God, I hate this country.
Did you know florida has a curfew for people under 18?

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

At 2/6/08 10:47 PM, ToothBrushMan wrote:

I'm pretty sure that obesity is not in the same category as all of those things (except maybe the crippled, but ... what?). It could be a case of public health over idcrimination. The writers of the bill were probably not thinking "fat people are gross" when they wrote it. But there are better ways to promote public health.

Being fat IS unhealthy. So is being a professional boxer, wrestler, skateboarder, policeman, or firefighter. But NONE of those things are considered "gross" or "unattractive", so obviously they aren't banned. Your high if you think the fact that fatness is "gross" isn't playing a part; the only time physicaly unhealthy actions are prosecuted against legally is when they show physical negative results; smokers, fat people, etc.

And about being fat being unhealthy, I would like to point out that Larry Allen seems to disagree with that tremendously >_>

[Bizarro]

At 2/6/08 10:31 PM, Al6200 wrote: A much better policy that would probably have the same effect would be a law requiring doctors to warn their patients if they're significantly overweight and show them the risks of diabetes, heart disease, stroke, etc.

That should work...this whole fat people problem has to be just because they are uninformed. Once we send out some pamphlets they will totally go out and do something about it too, because they have self control and motivation....oh wait.

Anyway the fat people ban will probably never happen, but some people are comparing it too a bartender cutting you off because you are too intoxicated, which in some ways makes it seem reasonable.

[Elfer]

I don't get it, is it their position that obese people shouldn't be allowed to eat at all?

[LazyDrunk]

At 2/7/08 12:37 AM, Elfer wrote: I don't get it, is it their position that obese people shouldn't be allowed to eat at all?

The tax dollars from their McDonald's cut is always greasy and has fat people stains on them. They couldn't pay anybody at the IRS enough to handle it, so now they want to make a law.

It all makes sense if you think about it.

[public-enemy1]

At 2/6/08 10:43 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote:

Wait, what the fuck where we talking about?

I lol'ed

[JudgeDredd]

At 2/6/08 10:31 PM, Al6200 wrote:

a law requiring doctors to warn their patients if they're significantly overweight and show them the risks of diabetes, heart disease, stroke, etc.

Oh what.. no public-service liposucking or stomach-stapling ads during the kids cartoons?? Yawn.

[Chickidydow]

At 2/6/08 07:38 PM, ToothBrushMan wrote: Mississippi. Mississippi. They should have had a test run of this bill in Milwakee - then they would have gotten their faces ripped off.

fuck off buddy, I live in Wisconsin and its not nearly as fat as people make it out to be. And I have family in Milwaukee.

:if your going to make fun of the city at least spell Milwaukee right

[AapoJoki]

So, instead of eating an expensive dinner at a restaurant, the fat people will just have to spend the same money on bacon and baloney at Wal-Mart...

[ToothBrushMan]

Being fat IS unhealthy. So is being a professional boxer, wrestler, skateboarder, policeman, or firefighter. But NONE of those things are considered "gross" or "unattractive", so obviously they aren't banned. Your high if you think the fact that fatness is "gross" isn't playing a part; the only time physicaly unhealthy actions are prosecuted against legally is when they show physical negative results; smokers, fat people, etc.

I'm sorry, but if you are going to list examples with every post, at least come up with ones that agree with your main point. All of the examples that you listed contribute something to society (and are professions or hobbies, not health attributes). Pro boxers, wrestlers, and skateboarders contibute entertainment and policemen and firemen protection. And all of the professions require a certain level of fitness. What does obesity contribute to society? Heart problems, inability to partcipate in sports and other bad, if not leathal, things. (and smokers get lung cancer - that might have something to do with this whole "don't smoke" craze.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

At 2/7/08 09:45 AM, ToothBrushMan wrote:

I'm sorry, but if you are going to list examples with every post, at least come up with ones that agree with your main point. All of the examples that you listed contribute something to society (and are professions or hobbies, not health attributes). Pro boxers, wrestlers, and skateboarders contibute entertainment

Oh shit, the Packers Offensive Line tears that argument to shreds.

and policemen and firemen protection. And all of the professions require a certain level of fitness. What does obesity contribute to society? Heart problems, inability to partcipate in sports and other bad, if not leathal, things. (and smokers get lung cancer - that might have something to do with this whole "don't smoke" craze.

Yet homosexuality increases likelihood of contracting aids. Are gays to be banned from places? Being skinny and eating certain foods is dangerous too; should we just ban unhealthy food? Non-professional skateboarding is unhealthy AND doesn't contribute to society.

[morefngdbs]

I'm wondering , how do you police it?
Do you have a fat-O-meter that strap on or wrap around a person & it decides?
What do you do at a drive through window? Take back their order 'cause they kinda looked fat !

I can sort of understand banning overly obese people from an all you can eat buffet, but other than that It seems there would be a real problem implementing it.

[mooguy]

Thaey can't pass this though...I belive the constitution said somthing about descrimination
:O

[Proteas]

At 2/6/08 07:53 PM, JudgeDredd wrote: Everywhere they go, there's more consideration and expense.

Explain to me how one fat person weighing 300 pounds taking up two seats on an airplane is using more fuel than two skinny people that would have normally sat in those two seats.

And as far as wear and tear on roads and infrastructure goes, the weight of the person driving the 2,000 pound car isn't what bothers the government, it's the overloaded cross-country tractor trailer trucks that usually do. I mean, they don't stop and weigh you're little Honda Civic as it's crossing the state line on an interstate, now do they?

At 2/7/08 07:33 PM, morefngdbs wrote: I can sort of understand banning overly obese people from an all you can eat buffet, but other than that It seems there would be a real problem implementing it.

And on top of that, where exactly do you draw the line on who and who you can't serve? The standards the bill has put forth are set by the Body Mass Index, which last time I checked, would easily rule out half or more of the people on this board as either being overweight or obese just because they have an extra 10 or 20 pounds on them. You could just be a muscular dude and qualify as overweight, nevermind that you don't really look like John Candy....

[JudgeDredd]

At 2/7/08 08:21 PM, Proteas wrote: Explain to me how one fat person weighing 300 pounds taking up two seats on an airplane is using more fuel than two skinny people that would have normally sat in those two seats.

More flights.

And as far as wear and tear on roads and infrastructure goes..

I'm not talking about a road bridge collapse (well, perhap the odd footbridge here and there) but more generally speaking; oversize coffins, upgrade of the gearing and electronics of devices for lifting and lowering people (like for those coffins again), recalculation of stadium capacity dependant on max structural loads, lift capacities, etc.

[MortifiedPenguins]

How about we make a compromise.

Fat people can eat and do whatever they want, wherever they want, no problems.

They just don't get covered by Medicare/Medicaid when thier wieght starts to lead to health complications.