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At 3/15/08 05:01 AM, poxpower wrote:
At 3/15/08 02:03 AM, darx wrote:
At 3/15/08 01:01 AM, poxpower wrote: Mostly CG?
Fuck.
Seriously, where are all of the old 2D animators from the last ones, I'm sensing an epic fail from this movie... it can possibly be good..
They should get the dudes from the Animatrix.
That's EXACTLY the kind of thing that would fit perfectly with Heavy Metal.

I'm guessing it will be a lot like that; traditional animation blended into modern techniques. I assume they'll have a lot of variety, as I'm sure they'd be aware that CG shorts one after another would have their individuality blurred and just be a big mess of rendered sweaty tits and spike-knuckled knives.

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At 3/15/08 06:05 AM, KupaMan wrote:
I'm guessing it will be a lot like that; traditional animation blended into modern techniques. I assume they'll have a lot of variety, as I'm sure they'd be aware that CG shorts one after another would have their individuality blurred and just be a big mess of rendered sweaty tits and spike-knuckled knives.

You're giving Hollywood a LOOOOT of credit.
It's like the Transformers movie. I mean, you'd assume that they would just keep the fucking robots the same. There was virtually no reason for changing the design other than capricious artsy bullshit from a team of idiots who think that giant robots shooting lasers and ninja stars at each other will become less realistic if they're too blocky or transform into a gun instead of.. like a gian space bat or whatever Megatron was going for.

"Mostly CG"...ew... let's hope not, but ...


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The newest 'entry' is great. But to the artist:

Dude... no. That's not how it works. If the deadline was irrelevant they wouldn't have one. Even the one that's posted 2 hours late won't get judged.

Why do people think that rules don't apply to them. These are the same perfectly healthy people who park in the handicapped spaces. Or the preachers who buy Meth from their homosexual lovers. Or...

Submitting a design 4 days late is like getting to the toilet 4 minutes late.

New discussion topic: Submitting a design 4 days late is like...(your analogy here)

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At 3/15/08 01:36 PM, Occluded wrote: New discussion topic: Submitting a design 4 days late is like...(your analogy here)

Is like showing up to the wedding chapel at 5pm when the wedding was at 1. And you were the ring bearer and left your cell at home.


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New discussion topic: Submitting a design 4 days late is like...(your analogy here)

Is like getting your dick sucked by Hayden Panettiere and making a video of it to show your friends at school, only its the year 2082 and shes now 90 years old and toothless and you end up looking like an asshole who molests old people in retirement homes and your video is on Dateline with Chris hanson Jr

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I always had this tought in the back of my head concerning CG I think that CG applies well to infrastuctures and machinery because it only requires to render mechanical movement(so it went well for transformers even thought the redesign was an ass idea).When it comes to living thing we have a whole other dimension to consider wich is rendering lifelike movements and gestures and I do believe we must give more time to CG evolution before we can reach that living thing feels,Wut do you think?I saw higlander the search for vengeance and the use of 3D effects in there are really well done, when in a movie 3D is less present than frame by frame animation it often provides pretty nice finished products.There is also this CG demo entitled Code Hunter from MTV asia, a realy stylish video with a pretty good montage (is that the word?i'm french) that is worth a look, you can download the full version over the internet just google it.


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At 3/15/08 05:01 AM, poxpower wrote:
They should get the dudes from the Animatrix.
That's EXACTLY the kind of thing that would fit perfectly with Heavy Metal.
And with a sweet-ass soundtrack with some Rammstein, Guns N' Roses, Def Leppard, Scorpions and whoever else they can find.

oh hell yeah, the dudes from the animatrix were awsome, That was a great movie. I just hope if they do the cgi animation that they won't make all the girls look like "Trip'n The Rift" That animation was terrible, main focus was on her size EEE Breasts..

Well i guess we can all just pray for the best from this one.

How comes the judging Pox?

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At 3/15/08 10:11 PM, matiou1 wrote: When it comes to living thing we have a whole other dimension to consider wich is rendering lifelike movements and gestures and I do believe we must give more time to CG evolution before we can reach that living thing feels,

Lord of the Rings?
Final Fantasy Spirits Within?
King Kong? someone? anyone? no?


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At 3/15/08 10:36 PM, darx wrote:
At 3/15/08 05:01 AM, poxpower wrote:
They should get the dudes from the Animatrix.
That's EXACTLY the kind of thing that would fit perfectly with Heavy Metal.
And with a sweet-ass soundtrack with some Rammstein, Guns N' Roses, Def Leppard, Scorpions and whoever else they can find.
oh hell yeah, the dudes from the animatrix were awsome

Again I say... Japan. Those were all top notch repected anime artists from a variety of notable series': Aeon Flux, Cowboy Bebop/Samurai Champloo, etc. Get some studio from out east to make it and it would be epic, though I'm sure there'd be haters crying "zOMG anime GTFO weeaboo"...


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Yeah I guess you're right but those productions you named required big budgets can they do that for Heavy metal I ask you?


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At 3/15/08 11:34 PM, matiou1 wrote: Yeah I guess you're right but those productions you named required big budgets can they do that for Heavy metal I ask you?

Depends on who picks up the production. If it's a big name studio like... Warner, MGM, etc... then probably yeah... I mean think about it... think of the success of say, 300, Sin City, Marvel movies... etc... they were all based off of graphic novels and did emmensely well.

If someone could pen a good script and pitch it the right way... you could have an INCREDIBLE friggin' movie... think of HEAVY METAL with Sin City's production value... *drooool*

It's all in who spear-heads this kind of undertaking.


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Yup you got it but now let's pray for a good studio to take the task but the way I see it is that to come up with a new Heavy Metal episode is more of a money making machine than a real envy to go ground breaking on the scenarion and media used.We will most likely end up with disproportioned chicks in a over the top cliche story, let's just hope i'm wrong.


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sorry for the doubled post but I forgot to say as well that I wasn't into 300 so much mainly because of the wolf confrontaton in the beginning that leaved me wih a bittersweet taste for the rest of the movie.o loved the lanscapes and slow motion that is ALL.


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At 3/15/08 11:26 PM, someONEgood wrote: ... though I'm sure there'd be haters crying "zOMG anime GTFO weeaboo"...

Yeah me. It's the same thing with Transformers changing the robots. It's about style, and don't get me wrong I love some Anime: Lain, the aforementioned Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell (the movie), Princess Mononoke, The Wolf Brigade, Grave of the Fireflies, Memories, Blood (too short though) etc. I'm not an irrational hater. However if I saw a Metal Movie where the breasts and the eyes were approximately the same size I would aggresively vomit at the screen. I hated some of the Classics of Anime. Vampire Hunter D? Gag me with a valley girl. That sucked.

I don't get this 'style' anyway. Anime. I love that Anime helped to bend the limits of cartoons as film. Some of them do it exceedingly well. But the style. Why does everything look like it was made by the same guy in varying stages of Maturity. Huge fuckin eyes. No noses on girls to speak of. Inappropriate overly simplified and exaggerated facial expressions counterbalanced by no expression whatsoever. And they're all playing off Astroboy which is took it's cues from Disney. It's an exaggeration of an exaggeration that (when the better ones try) is reigned back into a formal approach to the figure.

Again I don't think it's bad in small doses. But god dammit. Look at american Comic Books. There are hundreds of individual styles all breaking ground and expanding upon the simplified human figure.

Again to regain some credibility I read Runaways which is drawn by Micheal Ryan in Anime style. I don't hate it irrationally, it just gets more credit than it deserves as a style.

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A Heavy Metal movie being made in this day and age? Not gonna happen without sucking all the fun out of it.


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At 3/16/08 02:04 AM, ZekeySpaceyLizard wrote: A Heavy Metal movie being made in this day and age? Not gonna happen without sucking all the fun out of it.

Either that or it'd be a Grindhouse; a pitch-perfect movie that nobody sees.

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At 3/16/08 01:29 AM, Occluded wrote:
Again to regain some credibility I read Runaways which is drawn by Micheal Ryan in Anime style. I don't hate it irrationally, it just gets more credit than it deserves as a style.

Hahahaha so friggin funny I read that serie as well yesterday, so true that in comic we see much more unique styles and concept, we get to see more artists expressing themselves in comic because of the lesser production costs what a shame since animation provides much more tools to do so.


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Lets not forget the awesome director this movie will most likely be having... >.>
(*cough* go watch Fight club and Seven *cough*). I mean art is one thing but it does not mean crap with out proper writing and directing. Aeon flux is the perfect example. The mini series was great... the 5-10 minute episodes with out dialogue written by the artist where great. Then they made it a full series. animation and ideas were still great but, the shows were TERRIBLE.

I'm just saying don't rely on the animation so much. There is so much more to good story telling than badass pictures. (Transformers and 300 are so overrated)

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Mindchamber for the win and I'll post his reference pic :P

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I just hope they do it the same way they made Heavy Metal 2000.

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At 3/16/08 12:56 PM, ngmastah wrote: I just hope they do it the same way they made Heavy Metal 2000.

Why? it wasn't very good. Not terrible. But I agree with Zekey it was not fun. It was like the writers were beaten if the exhibited a sense of humor. It took itself too seriously. And the animation was sub par.

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So when are they entries getting judged?
It's been a week now hasn't it?


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There is no need for an apology. I can see where you would make that assuption, compared to the rest of the submissions it does look photoshopped. i would just like to find some tutorials that actually teach you how to digital paint.

This is one of the greatest tutorials I've ever seen for like real 'painting' in Photoshop, and it's the one that got me started: GOGOGOGOGOGOGO

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At 3/17/08 04:59 PM, salemburns wrote:

This is one of the greatest tutorials I've ever seen for like real 'painting' in Photoshop, and it's the one that got me started: GOGOGOGOGOGOGO

Tutorials can teach techniques...but the only thing that is going to make you a better painter is practice...


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At 3/17/08 04:59 PM, salemburns wrote:

This is one of the greatest tutorials I've ever seen for like real 'painting' in Photoshop, and it's the one that got me started: GOGOGOGOGOGOGO

nice tut, thanks for linking it.

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At 3/17/08 06:16 PM, MindChamber wrote:
At 3/17/08 04:59 PM, salemburns wrote:

This is one of the greatest tutorials I've ever seen for like real 'painting' in Photoshop, and it's the one that got me started: GOGOGOGOGOGOGO
nice tut, thanks for linking it.

Hey no prob :) I realize that practice is a huge factor, but, a good tutorial with a lot of screenshots will always point you in the right direction and can only help :D

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I started doing a drum-roll about a week ago in anticipation of the results for the contest. Now my drum kit is scattered around the place, my arms are but bloody stumps and I didn't feed my snake. So now he is pissed off with me. What excuse can I give him? What can I tell him? I ask you.

P.S. I'm being evicted for excessive noise polution. I have thirty days left before they make me leave. Are the results going to be out before then? <_>

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At 3/18/08 05:20 PM, CosmicDeath wrote: I started doing a drum-roll about a week ago in anticipation of the results for the contest. Now my drum kit is scattered around the place, my arms are but bloody stumps and I didn't feed my snake. So now he is pissed off with me. What excuse can I give him? What can I tell him? I ask you.

P.S. I'm being evicted for excessive noise polution. I have thirty days left before they make me leave. Are the results going to be out before then? <_>

I've been sat with mouth open waiting for the results, there's a small family of birds living in there now.


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here's the winners http://www.thepoxbox.com/heavymetal/heav ymetal.html

Mine didn't even get mention :/

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Is there anything in particular we need to do on our end as far as contact information?
I was gone all week and didn't find out until today. I was so happy.. thanks Pox!

But point being if an email went out with instructions chances are it got ate by my spam filter before I got a chance to see it :( (and my newgrounds info is a bit... dated...)

Anyways.. thanks for letting me know!


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