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At 2/20/08 02:29 PM, ElMagico wrote:
At 2/20/08 02:30 AM, shebitmefirst wrote: about 50% done. still a lot of shading and details to go.
you should probably think about taking some detail off of the dog or putting way more detail on the girl because it looks like the dog is the focus of the cover instead of the girl. you might want to focus on drawing a hot girl instead of a hot dog. tee hee. get it? hot dog.

Yeah, I re-did the dog with less shading detail (and a few other changes) to make him fit in a bit better, the work on the girl has BARELY begun, she needs a lot more work. I just did the dog first.

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At 2/15/08 03:38 PM, Vousielle wrote: alright..following with Luis's example imma submit somethine that is sure to be rejected. But I will make sure there are some misc. strategically placed fantasy items to cover the naughty bits.

*wink wink nudge nudge*

Eh right now there is likely no doubt that someone could be Playing with them selfs to this fine example of line art you've delivered .right now after storing it on their Hard drive. Rough,deep and hard man you'll definately have an great start in H Foundry.

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At 2/20/08 03:06 PM, MindChamber wrote:
At 2/20/08 03:04 PM, EKublai wrote: Hey, not to sound like I know anything or anything, but since most likely people are using reference images, is it legal under fair use to compete for a prize without crediting the images' creators?
the photo has to be really obvious copy and paste job for that to be an issue.

Personally, I take my own source photos. I've only done two pictures that didn't use my own stock, but they were completely non-profit... Meh.

Getting back to your point though; I think, for the most part, these pictures are going to be radically different from their source images. Hopefully to the point where they look nothing like the original reference materials - at least for the figures. So it shouldn't be an issue, as MindChamber said.

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done?

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At 2/20/08 03:49 PM, CosmicDeath wrote:
Personally, I take my own source photos. I've only done two pictures that didn't use my own stock, but they were completely non-profit... Meh.

were not all sexy females now are we..

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umm did it end yet

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At 2/20/08 04:48 PM, 10000000000000000000 wrote: umm did it end yet

no it ends in april

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At 2/20/08 04:54 PM, darx wrote:
At 2/20/08 04:48 PM, 10000000000000000000 wrote: umm did it end yet
no it ends in april

sorry march, meant to say march, sorry for the double post :(

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At 2/20/08 04:39 PM, darx wrote: done?

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the girl is great, matches well with the magazine style. The dragon in the background could use some work. I'd think to have it so close to the girl, it'd be better to make the head have a little bit more detail and depth with the scales. Right now it just kind of looks like the dragon got hit in the face with a tennis racket.

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At 2/20/08 04:39 PM, darx wrote: done?

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Wow, it has improved so much! Good job! I think it's pretty much done. My only possible suggestion would be to improve the look of the dragons claws, as their shape doesn't look as believable to me, though I usually think along the lines of eagle claws or something when I think of dragon claws, and you might be thinking more along the lines of Godzilla claws or something... anyway just a thought, but if you submitted it now, you'd probably do pretty good anyway.


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So, yeah, I can't draw people, I don't have photoshop, and I have no right to insult anyone's work, but "OMG MY FIRST ART CONTEST" isn't the way to go here. Some of these pieces seem unpolished and generally bad, especially compared to the caliber of work by established members.

Some examples:

Filter-rape - I saw a "finished" imaged that had been run through a filter in an attempt to give it a "magazine" look.

Poor shading - If your woman is human, their skin should look smooth, not like fur.

Poor lines - Use curves, goddamnit! I think we know what I mean here. Also, don't leave black outlines, unless your style is sufficiently cartoony.

Also, is there any reason we're limiting this to scantily-clad hot women? I'd have thought that on Newgrounds at least one ugly fat girl or scantily clad man would have been posted...

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At 2/20/08 06:25 PM, AMP-d wrote:
Also, is there any reason we're limiting this to scantily-clad hot women? I'd have thought that on Newgrounds at least one ugly fat girl or scantily clad man would have been posted...

your opinion on all counts, but you should know that scantily clad women are the only option since this is based off the heavy metal magazine cover which features solely scantily clad sexy women.
Yeah so anyway don't be afraid to critique. The appeal to the general public in my mind is just as important as the appeal to the contest judge.

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This is my picture so far. It is one of the first things i've tried at to make look realistic (by following pox's tutorial) so i'd appreciate some comments and help and that. If you have any tips that'd be good.

The head is like that because I've not decided what hair to put on it yet. That is how I did the whole pic by the way (Like in his tut), got pictures, traced over the basics of them, then got rid of the pictures and drew over the top.

Bigger pic.

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At 2/20/08 06:35 PM, EKublai wrote:
At 2/20/08 06:25 PM, AMP-d wrote:
Also, is there any reason we're limiting this to scantily-clad hot women? I'd have thought that on Newgrounds at least one ugly fat girl or scantily clad man would have been posted...
your opinion on all counts, but you should know that scantily clad women are the only option since this is based off the heavy metal magazine cover which features solely scantily clad sexy women.
Yeah so anyway don't be afraid to critique. The appeal to the general public in my mind is just as important as the appeal to the contest judge.

What I meant there was that humor must count for something. I think an image making out a fat fangirl as a heroine or damsel in distress would be a funny satire.

And I know my opinion counts, but I'm sure countless newbs would disagree, and this contest draws new users like nothing else.

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At 2/20/08 06:35 PM, EKublai wrote: your opinion on all counts, but you should know that scantily clad women are the only option since this is based off the heavy metal magazine cover which features solely scantily clad sexy women.

Well, actually, if you look at the first 45 issues, scantily-clad women only appear occasionally until issue 46, and even after that, there were the occasional non-woman covers, such as issues 63, 68, 71, 113, 152, etc.
But IMO, scantily clad women are definitely more fun to draw...


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At 2/20/08 07:20 PM, Mogly wrote: This is my picture so far.

so i herd u liek mudkips

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At 2/20/08 07:43 PM, uyersuyer wrote:
At 2/20/08 07:20 PM, Mogly wrote: This is my picture so far.
so i herd u liek mudkips

Ey?

Cosmic Death that looks wicked. It looks a bit like Sarah Conner from Terminator.

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there is something strange with the pose... maybe the top is too small? its like the "no rib cage" woman.


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Ok, this is still a wip....I made the sword less "luppy"....is it better? I know the hilt still needs some work...

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At 2/20/08 09:14 PM, DooDooMeaT wrote: Ok, this is still a wip....I made the sword less "luppy"....is it better? I know the hilt still needs some work...

I like how you have the floor covered in blood and how it connects up to the background with the black dripping bit. I wouldn't of thought of doing a background like that.

One thing i'm wondering though with alot of the pics in this thread is whether the person actually drew the pic themselves, or whether they traced it, and if so to what extent? Not because 'it'd be breaking the rules' (because it wouldn't) but because I don't wanna be congratulating people who've not actually done alot of work.

Your drawing looks class. So if you did draw it well done.

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At 2/20/08 07:58 PM, Mogly wrote:
At 2/20/08 07:43 PM, uyersuyer wrote:
At 2/20/08 07:20 PM, Mogly wrote: This is my picture so far.
so i herd u liek mudkips
Ey?

Cosmic Death that looks wicked. It looks a bit like Sarah Conner from Terminator.

Cheers. Sarah Connor is bad-ass.

The final picture was supposed to look more like a fairy character called Merry Gentry by Laurell K Hamilton. It's too bad I forgot to add the month/date/issue number to the cover pic before I posted it in the final section. >_>

Here is the finished piece:

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At 2/20/08 10:45 PM, CosmicDeath wrote: Here is the finished piece:

The only thing I don't like is the text. It all feels placed sloppily, and it's an unattractive font.

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Well I did trace the outline...I traced the outline just the outline ...and then I spent around 8 to 10 hours painting it...maybe even longer...I don't know I really don't keep track...using the outline outline outline outline of the image I painted directly over the outline in tendious fashion....with little tiny brushes...While painting the image I did for a short time REFERENCE the original lighting of the original reference...The lighting was real and I am in fact going for a realist looking picture of a HOT girl....I did add some shadows and some more lighting on my own... In my art thread I started a little thing showing the steps I used to create the image if you want to see it here is the link http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/8562 86/2 I can not find the original image I used as I stated before...It was an image on a web banner advertisement thing that I saw and liked while looking through websites trying to find a hot chick...I had to screen shot because it wouldn't let me copy the image...I looked a few days back when I was first accused of this not being my own original drawing...as soon as I find the image again I will post a link immediately...I traced the outline of the image not because I have to but because I wanted perfect proportion and this contest is about creating a REALIST image of a HOT girl...not a cartoon, dogged face monkey girl...knowing how NG's population operates I thought that everybody was going to be tracing...I don't care if you like my image...I don't care if you don't believe I created the image myself...OBVIOUSLY I spent a lot of time on this and the fact is that I like what I have done am very proud of it...


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At 2/20/08 10:52 PM, KupaMan wrote:
At 2/20/08 10:45 PM, CosmicDeath wrote: Here is the finished piece:
The only thing I don't like is the text. It all feels placed sloppily, and it's an unattractive font.

Yeah, you may be right on that one. I don't know. I tried a good number of fonts and none of them felt right, so I fell back on Arial Narrow as it was a basic font and easily read/smooth. As for text placement, I thought it looked okay - but then I have been staring at it on and off since I started it three or so days ago and I was starting to go <_>

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I feel for some reason my photoshop settings are weird... What should the basic settings be..

ie: resolution, color mode, pixel aspect ratio, and stuff like that

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Ok, I figured I'd submit my WIP since everyone else is, and it's fun to see all the different ones. I've got a LONG way to go still, adding hair, a kickass background, details such as the spilt wine on her wing, touching up, and stuff like that. The final image will be cropped and resized too.

Also, I noticed a lot of people questioning how much time people are putting into their works, so I made a little walkthrough/tutorial that you can view HERE!!! Check it out! :D

Anyway, here's what I have so far. I just "finished" one of the wings. Let me know what you think so far...

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At 2/20/08 11:35 PM, darx wrote: I feel for some reason my photoshop settings are weird... What should the basic settings be..

ie: resolution, color mode, pixel aspect ratio, and stuff like that

Basic web resolution is 72 dpi (dots/pixels per inch), for print it is 300 dpi. Colour mode is RGB for this because it is digital without view to print. As for PAR... well, I don't know much about that, but as far as I can tell it should be 1:1, right? I don't know how to adjust that on Photoshop.

I usually work on 150 dpi for web as it takes less space/memory to save when it is a fat psd, but is still large enough that you get crisper details when working on it. If you start off with a higher resolution and just resized the image later, you can work much more accurately. Hope this helps.

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I usually work on 150 dpi for web as it takes less space/memory to save when it is a fat psd, but is still large enough that you get crisper details when working on it. If you start off with a higher resolution and just resized the image later, you can work much more accurately. Hope this helps.

Edit: I usually work at 150 dpi rather than 300dpi for web... 72 is what you want to end up with as it is best for web, but WIP should be higher resolution as it is better to work on, though not as high as print resolution as it is unnecessary and takes up too much memory.

*sigh* I really need to start concentrating on learning how to use Flash properly. Anyone know of any good tutorials online?

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At 2/21/08 01:28 AM, CosmicDeath wrote:
*sigh* I really need to start concentrating on learning how to use Flash properly. Anyone know of any good tutorials online?

yeah, try the macromedia breeze tutorials ( or is it adobe now lol )

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I decided hell with it I'm drawing something on paper and working it up from there.

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