22 Y/o Iran Execution-got Drunk

[zoolrule]

"The Iranian Court sentenced 22 Years old a death penalty because he broke the Islamic religious rule - drinking alcoholic beverage, reported today by Iranian sources."
Should be mentioned :
While in most of the world countries execution is either illegal or very rare, only few days ago 16 people were executed in Iran.

So nuclear weapon is not threat in Iranian hands?

[emmytee]

I doubt anyone worth listening to has said that.

But they don't have nukes, they are miles away from having them and tehya re not trying to get them

[Centurion-Ryan]

At 2/5/08 11:40 AM, zoolrule wrote: "The Iranian Court sentenced 22 Years old a death penalty because he was caught breaking the Islamic religious rule - drinking alcoholic beverage, reported today by Iranian sources."

Fixed.

[RommelTJ]

Oh please. Just because they have a different culture does not mean they are terrorists. We did much worse things.

Salem Witch Trials.
Trail of Tears.
I could go on forever.....

Hell, in some states capital punishment is still legal. I bet your state has it legal.

[zoolrule]

At 2/5/08 01:29 PM, RommelTJ wrote:

Salem Witch Trials.
Trail of Tears.
I could go on forever.....

The difference is 400 years, today we have MUCH MUCH MUCH more knowledge and our technology is amazingly advanced.
Don't you think its funny that you compare their acts to acts we did 400 years ago? -Salem witch- things have changed a bit you know...
The Nazis had a different culture too, their culture was to Invade nations, Take over them, Kill their civilians, and on the side killing some Jews and Slavs. But hey - its their culture.

Hell, in some states capital punishment is still legal. I bet your state has it legal.

I would'nt bet it if i were you.

[public-enemy1]

At 2/5/08 01:25 PM, emmytee wrote: I doubt anyone worth listening to has said that.

But they don't have nukes, they are miles away from having them and tehya re not trying to get them

Not according to Bush

[RommelTJ]

At 2/5/08 01:49 PM, zoolrule wrote: The difference is 400 years, today we have MUCH MUCH MUCH more knowledge and our technology is amazingly advanced.
Don't you think its funny that you compare their acts to acts we did 400 years ago? -Salem witch- things have changed a bit you know...
The Nazis had a different culture too, their culture was to Invade nations, Take over them, Kill their civilians, and on the side killing some Jews and Slavs. But hey - its their culture.

Hell, in some states capital punishment is still legal. I bet your state has it legal.

I would'nt bet it if i were you.

Well, I could bet for sure if you told me your location. But you didn't state it in your profile. This leads me to believe that you are an alt account that wants to flame the BBS with anti-Arabic sentiment.

You can't bring "Peace to the Middle East" because they have a "barbaric" culture. Most Muslim are actually very peaceful, but it's only the extremist that appear on the news.

Iran is not trying to develop nuclear weapons. They are simply trying to become stronger in the eyes of their rivals. It's a matter of domestic policy, not war policy.

Nazis can't have culture. NAZI stands for National Sozialist, which is a political party, not a culture.

Fact of the matter is that Iranians have not attacked us, so why should we?

Preventive wars are just a load of crap. Remember that one of the rules of war is don't shoot unless being shot(or something like that).

On the other hand, if we relinquish all of our Nuclear capabilities, then I'm all for taking them from Iran too. But we don't. We use nuclear power and we have nuclear bombs. Why shouldn't they?

It is to our advantage to have nuclear weapons while the rest of the world doesn't. That way, we keep the world in check.

You might think that the Arabs are warmongers and savages, but can you remind me of the country the launched the only 2 nuclear weapons?

America has shed more blood than any other country in the recent years. All of us are barbaric.

[public-enemy1]

At 2/5/08 02:13 PM, simple-but-sandy wrote: Once again, Bush gets dragged into a political discussion not originally related to him.

Sigh...

So did the Nazis

Sigh Heil...

[JudgeDredd]

At 2/5/08 11:40 AM, zoolrule wrote: "The Iranian Court sentenced 22 Years old a death penalty because he handled nuclear weapons while drunk"

^OMFG, he deserves it!

[zoolrule]

At 2/5/08 02:03 PM, RommelTJ wrote:

Well, I could bet for sure if you told me your location. But you didn't state it in your profile. This leads me to believe that you are an alt account that wants to flame the BBS with anti-Arabic sentiment.

That leads you to a that ? You should be a detective.
I don't even know how to edit my profile or even get to the profile.
And even if i could, what does it proof ? So ill just make alternative account and state that in the alt account that im from fking Somalia if i want...

[TehChahlesh]

At 2/5/08 01:29 PM, RommelTJ wrote: Oh please. Just because they have a different culture does not mean they are terrorists. We did much worse things.

Of course it doesn't. Who said it did?

Salem Witch Trials.
Trail of Tears.
I could go on forever.....

Yeah you could, but you gave two events. Curiously, these events happened over 200 years ago, while the event described happened this week.

Hell, in some states capital punishment is still legal. I bet your state has it legal.

What on earth do you think capital punishment is?

[HarryFeltersnach]

At 2/5/08 01:49 PM, zoolrule wrote:

At 2/5/08 01:29 PM, RommelTJ wrote:

.........., their culture was to Invade nations, Take over them, Kill their civilians

hey, sounds like the policies of the country I live in..........good ol' USA

[Buffalow]

At 2/5/08 01:29 PM, RommelTJ wrote: Oh please. Just because they have a different culture does not mean they are terrorists. We did much worse things.

Salem Witch Trials.

America had nothing to with that, and those people were Religious fanatics too.

Trail of Tears.

That happened over 150 years ago man, and Andrew Jackson was just a huge pompous ass who hated Indians, it wasn't our culture.

I could go on forever.....

Hell, in some states capital punishment is still legal. I bet your state has it legal.

Yes, because we put them on trial and make them pay for reasonable things. Like murder. Not drinkin' a few bud lights once a week or so.

[public-enemy1]

At 2/5/08 04:58 PM, Gwarfan wrote: Yes, because we put them on trial and make them pay for reasonable things. Like murder. Not drinkin' a few bud lights once a week or so.

You do realize that Iran is a theocracy, right?

Their religion is the law of the land.

[Austrian-Mats]

At 2/5/08 02:03 PM, RommelTJ wrote:

At 2/5/08 01:49 PM, zoolrule wrote:

Please, quit this stupid discussion. This has no, absolutely NO sense to discuss about. We ALL know that people like you got all morality and all the truth on your side, the good side.
Your posts almost contain the same tactics.

Well, I could bet for sure if you told me your location. But you didn't state it in your profile. This leads me to believe that you are an alt account that wants to flame the BBS with anti-Arabic sentiment.

Personal attacks on persons with different opinion.

You can't bring "Peace to the Middle East" because they have a "barbaric" culture. Most Muslim are actually very peaceful, but it's only the extremist that appear on the news.

Denial, relativation.

Iran is not trying to develop nuclear weapons. They are simply trying to become stronger in the eyes of their rivals. It's a matter of domestic policy, not war policy.

Denial, relativation.

Nazis can't have culture. NAZI stands for National Sozialist, which is a political party, not a culture.

Relativation? Or... wait... lack of knowledge.

Fact of the matter is that Iranians have not attacked us, so why should we?

Relativation, pacifism.

Preventive wars are just a load of crap. Remember that one of the rules of war is don't shoot unless being shot(or something like that).

Pacifism. (yeah, I love pacifism. No matter HOW harsh the violation of human rights in a state is, no, we're not going to do anything. Let 'em suffer.)

On the other hand, if we relinquish all of our Nuclear capabilities, then I'm all for taking them from Iran too. But we don't. We use nuclear power and we have nuclear bombs. Why shouldn't they?

Relativation. (You compare a democratically leaded nation to a nation leaded by religious wackos, threatening other democracies.)

It is to our advantage to have nuclear weapons while the rest of the world doesn't. That way, we keep the world in check.

Relativation. (Yeah, I'd gladly have Russia, or China, or even friendly Iran als leading nation, hooray!)

You might think that the Arabs are warmongers and savages, but can you remind me of the country the launched the only 2 nuclear weapons?

Relativation. (Nah, you better invaded Japan, adding two or three millions to the death toll of WWII, who cares?)

America has shed more blood than any other country in the recent years. All of us are barbaric.

Relativation. Again. (Yeah sure, Americans chop off of hands, rape virgins before the execution, kill the political opposition, abolish divestiture of power, and yeah, are leaded by a council of religious old wacos.)

Interestingly, do didn't even really condemm the execution of the drunk, you just immerdiately attacked the guy with the different view, and started your programm of denial and relativation.

Fact is, this guy is going to be executed. Because he drank. (yeah sure, this could kill him too. So let's execute all car drivers too, if we use this logic.)
Anyways. You're an appeaser.

But naaah, I'm a total lyer, I lack evidence, also, I'm from Austria, so a possible, no, a Nazi
for sure, I'm hateful, intolerant and a threat to the cultural dialogue.

Even though I didn't demand violence against muslim people (I just critisize the muslimic infiltration in other cultures, like europe, the islam not respecting resident culture, and the people ignoring/approving/encouraging it), I'm stupid and evil for sure.

Sorry for not posting my sources, after doing this over and over when dealing with your kind, I know that's pointless. You'll dounbt their credibility ignore and/or relativize them anyways.

But PLEASE, please, prove me I'm wrong.

Have a nice day.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

Oh, those crazy Iranians.

Don't worry. IMO, the U.S/Iranian War is imminent. Not to long before we go Afghanistan-style on their collective asses.

[Buffalow]

At 2/5/08 05:08 PM, public-enemy1 wrote: You do realize that Iran is a theocracy, right?

Their religion is the law of the land.

Yes, I do realize this. And it should be stopped. Killing someone over a beer? Come on man, even for the religious fanatics, thats a little much.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 2/5/08 01:29 PM, RommelTJ wrote: Oh please. Just because they have a different culture does not mean they are terrorists. We did much worse things.

Salem Witch Trials.
Trail of Tears.
I could go on forever.....

Hell, in some states capital punishment is still legal. I bet your state has it legal.

Iranian Theocracy; A government based on religious rules.

If the puritans had acess to nuclear weapons, or an drew jackson had access to nuclear weapons; i would be as nervous about it being in their hands as i would as iran.

The bottom line is that The United states has changed, Only a fool thinks we're not any more secular than we were 250 years ago. Iran has not, and they're not still using nooses and arquebuisers anymore.

[Memorize]

I like how the people who complain about every little thing the US does, will suddenly turn over and take it up the ass by Iran, saying: "Well um... We were worse... 400 years ago... when there were no nukes...."

[public-enemy1]

At 2/5/08 11:20 PM, MercatorMap wrote:

Unless they were jews, gypsies (Do not shrink me gypsy!) or homos.

i.e. civilians

[zoolrule]

At 2/5/08 11:20 PM, MercatorMap wrote: The nazis did NOT kill civilians. Anybody who was a spy or a member of the underground resistance is not considered a civilian. Unless they were jews, gypsies (Do not shrink me gypsy!) or homos.

Only jews gyspsies and homos? so thats fine! now i have nothing against the nazis!
Oh wait, bombing the countries they invaded isn't killing civilians? (Im talking about the ones that didn't even fight them).

[AapoJoki]

At 2/5/08 10:08 PM, Memorize wrote: I like how the people who complain about every little thing the US does, will suddenly turn over and take it up the ass by Iran, saying: "Well um... We were worse... 400 years ago... when there were no nukes...."

That's a ridiculous generalization. I complain about the USA all the time, but I think it's fucking disgusting and atrocious that this Iranian person is sentenced to death. There's no cultural or any kind of justification for it, nor is it in any way more acceptable or understandable than the crimes USA is arguably guilty of.

[LordJaric]

At 2/5/08 11:20 PM, MercatorMap wrote: The nazis did NOT kill civilians. Anybody who was a spy or a member of the underground resistance is not considered a civilian. Unless they were jews, gypsies (Do not shrink me gypsy!) or homos.

So pulling people out of their homes and shooting them on the streets is not killing civilans.

[public-enemy1]

At 2/6/08 08:10 AM, LordJaric wrote:

At 2/5/08 11:20 PM, MercatorMap wrote: The nazis did NOT kill civilians. Anybody who was a spy or a member of the underground resistance is not considered a civilian. Unless they were jews, gypsies (Do not shrink me gypsy!) or homos.

So pulling people out of their homes and shooting them on the streets is not killing civilans.

Unless they were Jews, Gypsies, or Gays, because then it was acceptable.

[Earfetish]

Please don't go to war with Iran. You'll kill us all. The Russians will side with Iran and the West will be permanently on the back foot in every foreign policy issue from that point on.

I know their culture is retarded, we need to focus on the grassroots because a lot of the populace there think that their culture is retarded and backwards. But they still don't like the West, and they'll totally hate us if we go over there and start shooting our guns and toppling the government and reinstating another one - Iran has had us do that too many times.

They're apparently not even trying to get a working nuke anyway. They're just fucking with you. Nuclear power is a good idea, and it's an easy way of showing that you're not going to be intimidated by the West by pretending you might be building a bomb.

North Korea is the most sensible place to try some regime-changing really. Fuck Iran.

[Sajberhippien]

Although I'm against capital punishment in all forms, it isn't very rare with countries having death penalty for drug use/trade. Several countries in eastern Asia has it, including for example Malaysia.

[Korriken]

At 2/5/08 11:20 PM, MercatorMap wrote:

The nazis did NOT kill civilians. Anybody who was a spy or a member of the underground resistance is not considered a civilian. Unless they were jews, gypsies (Do not shrink me gypsy!) or homos.

the V2 rockets they launched at Britain didn't exactly contain get well cards and flowers. http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/v2.htm

[Slizor]

Linky

I imagine that is what this topic is about....if anyone was wondering about the actual details.

[Oblivia]

The Sharia Laws is practically a gargantuan Theocratical Jim Crow system. In comparison, a black guy in the Segregated South has more freedom than a Non-Muslim, even worse for Jews, under a Sharia Government.

[H4rl3k1n]

Only the most brute of all barbarians would call boozing a crime. Indeed, the possibility of access (for adults) to alcoholic beverages and pornographic material seems to be part of a civilized culture. Iran condemns both. That is, the theocratic despots. The people of Iran are quite reasonable.