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At 11/3/09 09:36 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote:

At 11/3/09 09:20 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: just don't be an anus about it. K?

Got it. Don't flame the noob unless he makes an ass of himself first.

How about don't flame anyone period?

At 11/3/09 10:16 PM, Captain-Ben wrote: How about don't flame anyone period?

aww no fun
>:(

At 11/3/09 10:16 PM, Captain-Ben wrote: How about don't flame anyone period?

Correction - Don't tell the noob he's an ass unless he makes himself into one first.

At 11/3/09 10:51 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Correction - Don't tell the noob he's an ass unless he makes himself into one first.

well that won't take long with most of them...

At 11/3/09 10:51 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote:

At 11/3/09 10:16 PM, Captain-Ben wrote: How about don't flame anyone period?

Correction - Don't tell the noob he's an ass unless he makes himself into one first.

No, the reason this is even coming up is because of regs jumping down every new posters throat. Even if the user is being a dick, you should be the bigger man and still be courteous. If someone does something wrong, and a mod isn't on to help them out or direct them somewhere, than be polite and help them. But that's where it should end, if they get uppity and such don't argue back with them.

The Art Forums been pretty stagnant lately, and being mean to all the new comers is not going to help things.

If the user has been redirected or told what he did wrong, just don't post in the thread anymore. The user will correct himself or Kraig'll get around to locking it eventually.

At 11/3/09 11:49 PM, Captain-Ben wrote: something about not being a dick to noobs

Fair enough. perhaps we should lighten up a little.
Going for the throat with the first wave kills them off too quickly, I admit. So I'll try and not be so blunt.

we still get to use witty catch phrases when we tell them to check the rules, right?

Hrmm, I guess I should stop making jokes about flaming noobs in the lounge then.

Especially when the only person who seems to get them is Kinsei :(

At 11/4/09 12:05 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Hrmm, I guess I should stop making jokes about flaming noobs in the lounge then.

Especially when the only person who seems to get them is Kinsei :(

you make it seem like a bad thing o.0.....

At 11/4/09 12:09 AM, Kinsei01 wrote:

At 11/4/09 12:05 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Hrmm, I guess I should stop making jokes about flaming noobs in the lounge then.

Especially when the only person who seems to get them is Kinsei :(

you make it seem like a bad thing o.0.....

It's good that you understand them :)
It's bad that ONLY tyou understand them :(

At 11/4/09 12:20 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote: It's good that you understand them :)
It's bad that ONLY tyou understand them :(

swweeeeet!

At 11/4/09 12:24 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: swweeeeet!

High-five

At 11/4/09 12:27 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote:

At 11/4/09 12:24 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: swweeeeet!

High-five

Go Team Venture!

Yeah, I agree with BMK and Capt`n
Id like to add thought that not only is it nicer for the noobs, I usually get more pleasure out of posting a helpfull reply, than I get out of a "bad" one. And usually those poeple really dont have any wrong intentions.
`nother thought is that those "clutter"-thread (those that clutter up the forum, and dont really add any content) are usually resolved (dead) faster when poeple are constructive. Replying negative usually results in either a flame war (keeping the thread on the top of the first page), or it will get locked. in the latter case the op wont have had his problem resolved, so he will create a new thread making the exact same "mistake".

As Capt`n said, we can lose some really talented/nice/constructive poeple with that negattitude.

yeah I did just make that into one word, I just did it.

At 11/3/09 09:20 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: THE BACKSEAT MODDING SITUATION

I don't have a problem with you guys telling the newbs where to go and what to do and pointing out the rules and the proper places to post what they're posting and such, I have a problem when you are overtly assholes. Please try to be reasonably nice, you don't have to be super accommodating or praise what they're doing or how they are doing it, I don't expect that and I don't want to see that, I expect you to be honest and straightforward, but you do not have to be a dick-face.

I know that I have sometimes been a little rude to a passing troll or two, but I try to only do that when they are flaunting their ignorance or acting like douches themselves.

Bottom line is this: YOU CAN BE BANNED FOR BACKSEAT MODDING. In the Art Forum you are generally allowed to inform new users about the rules and such, just don't be an anus about it. K?

understood im really bad at backseat modding anyway so i gave it up, now i just lurk the art forum and let others do it, ill only start when a noob wont acknowledge that he cant draw, or his collab sucks lol

So I'm looking for a little information on the artist Alex Grey. One of my art professors was telling me about a rumor she used to hear about Grey being a necrophiliac until he had horrible nightmares from the experience, and then had to create art in the way he does now. Anyone heard of such a tale?

At 11/5/09 03:40 PM, esko-man wrote: So I'm looking for a little information on the artist Alex Grey. One of my art professors was telling me about a rumor she used to hear about Grey being a necrophiliac until he had horrible nightmares from the experience, and then had to create art in the way he does now. Anyone heard of such a tale?

I realize that I don't have anywhere near the same authority as any art professor on anything related to art. But I sure think it is strange for a teacher and professor to pass along rumors about something like that to their students. Such serious "accusations" should better be well documented if they are to be part of a lecture.

Uh.. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but there's a cool program here for people with no art skills (including myself) :
http://www.zefrank.com/scribbler/

At 11/5/09 07:18 PM, Wivernryder wrote: Uh.. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but there's a cool program here for people with no art skills (including myself) :
http://www.zefrank.com/scribbler/

huh, that's oddly fun.

At 11/5/09 07:18 PM, Wivernryder wrote: Uh.. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but there's a cool program here for people with no art skills (including myself) :
http://www.zefrank.com/scribbler/

not to turn the art forum lounge into the scribbler webapp lounge but this is what I got...

Anyway yeah I thought that was cool so I figured I'd share it with people who could appreciate.

At 11/5/09 07:48 PM, J-qb wrote: not to turn the art forum lounge into the scribbler webapp lounge but this is what I got...

It would probably make an interesting topic

hintity hint hint

This site is great for art! Every time I meet someone and say, "Yeah you should check out Newgrounds, there are some awesome pieces there" they say, "No, man, DeviantArt rocks, NG sucks." (Bastards)
Anyway, in the form of art, this site is becoming quite legit, and has been doing so for a while. Will anyone besides members every appreciate NG for more than just cock jokes? (which are still funny, I don't care what you say)

At 11/5/09 10:09 PM, Scourger9 wrote: This site is great for art! Every time I meet someone and say, "Yeah you should check out Newgrounds, there are some awesome pieces there" they say, "No, man, DeviantArt rocks, NG sucks." (Bastards)
Anyway, in the form of art, this site is becoming quite legit, and has been doing so for a while. Will anyone besides members every appreciate NG for more than just cock jokes? (which are still funny, I don't care what you say)

well, if you compare the ng art portal to DA youre probably right in saying that da has more to offer.
What I love about ng though, is the art forum. imo this is where the magic happens. so maybe you should link your friends to some cool topics here in the forum. maybe doubles 8, maybe a COW...
that might make them appreciate ng a bit more.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFF!

My toilet was dripping from the "inrun", so I tried to tighten the nut, but the damn thing was old and worn and broke, so it was pouring water out into the entire bathroom. So I had to shut down the water in my entire appartment. Witch was pretty fucking enoying since I had had filthy water splashed all over me, but couldn't take a bath. So I had to go down to the nearest public bath and shower. AND all the shops are closed down by now so I won't have any water until monday when I can get some new nuts.
What a shitty way to start the weekend >:C

Hahaha Lundsfryd needs new nuts.

Anyway, I haven't really checked out DA very much.. I mean I've been to a few specific peoples' pages, but not much further than that.

Would anybody recommend it, or not? Cause I don't have much (you might have seen some of my mediocre crap elsewhere on the forum) or anything worthwhile to put.

At 11/6/09 01:22 PM, Wivernryder wrote: Hahaha Lundsfryd needs new nuts.

Anyway, I haven't really checked out DA very much.. I mean I've been to a few specific peoples' pages, but not much further than that.

Would anybody recommend it, or not? Cause I don't have much (you might have seen some of my mediocre crap elsewhere on the forum) or anything worthwhile to put.

I'm not a huge fan of dA, the site is huge and there's really no quality control to speak of. People just upload whatever shit they want and get nice comments about it, no real crit. I haven't been in their forums though, so idk how those work.

It's nice to see the stuff that get's put up for Daily Deviation and what's popular is usually good stuff (though often too anime for my taste) but it's difficult to get any meaningful recognition and impossible to get constructive criticism. To me it's more of a networking thing than a serious place to make an art portfolio or to get feedback.

That's my two cents.

to BMK

Well I've always viewed DA as more of a place where you can upload your crap just so's you can link people to it.

I never cared for DA either. I only have an account there because someone pestered me so much about creating one that I finally told him to just do it for me... he did, and now I use it the way Wivernryder described... as storage. lol.

I do like that you can see how many views you get (which is never many for me, but still). Here you have to be scouted to see that... lame. You can also see how many and who favorited each piece, as well as download totals. Random info, but still nice to have access to.

Someone... BmK, I believe... mentioned to me (just a few weeks ago, in fact) that DA has forums... 'cuz I didn't even know! lol :P I should really check them out someday... maybe... probably won't.

I recently created an account at conceptart.org. I thought it would be inspiring, but it just makes me feel ...inadequate, so I haven't posted anything. It's an intimidating place. Their chow's, cow's etc. turn out some REALLY impressive stuff... not to say the ones here don't, but theirs are just... ridiculous. Like, "I'm gonna go sob in a corner for rest of my life due to my inferiority" kind of ridiculous. I hate that place.

At 11/6/09 02:41 PM, ReNaeNae wrote: Like, "I'm gonna go sob in a corner for rest of my life due to my inferiority" kind of ridiculous. I hate that place.

Yeah, I feel like that pretty much everywhere there is a piece that is superior to a stick figure. =P
People in the past have told me that some of my art (none of it has been posted on NG recently) is pretty good, but I'm never satisfied with anything I draw. I always view it as extremely mediocre or inferior based on what I've seen that other people can do.

At 11/6/09 02:41 PM, ReNaeNae wrote: I do like that you can see how many views you get (which is never many for me, but still). Here you have to be scouted to see that... lame. You can also see how many and who favorited each piece, as well as download totals. Random info, but still nice to have access to.

Yeah, I'm hoping they update the art portal with that. Just as the flash portal allows you to see how many people have favourited your pieces, reviewed your work and see reviews you left, I'm hoping the art portal can get updated to allow that as well.