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Art is the product and/or process of creative production, which is intended to provoke a strong emotional/aesthetic/intellectual/and visceral response. Art requires two things, intent to produce art, and creative input.

At 2/12/08 12:38 PM, Vousielle wrote: Art is the product and/or process of creative production, which is intended to provoke a strong emotional/aesthetic/intellectual/and visceral response. Art requires two things, intent to produce art, and creative input.

I dont take all these art classes for nothing, lol.

At 2/12/08 12:25 PM, LaserKarl wrote: I guess this is a good place to discuss the question "What is art?"

Why do we paint/sculpt/animate or menstruate on paper, whats the meaning of it?

menstruating on paper is in my opinion not art.

At 2/12/08 01:09 PM, Nacco wrote:

menstruating on paper is in my opinion not art.

It is, only if the now unborn child's soul get credit for the work.

That's right, I said it.

Nothing screams more emotion more than expelled egg.
Now go get your "Red-Wings" boys.

At 2/12/08 01:09 PM, Nacco wrote:

menstruating on paper is in my opinion not art.

It is, only if the now unborn child's soul get credit for the work.

That's right, I said it.

Nothing screams more emotion more than expelled egg.
Now go get your "Red-Wings" boys.

Why haven't I been in the art forum for so long?

I used to lurk this shit every day

Time to get back into old habits. :D

At 2/12/08 12:38 PM, Vousielle wrote: Art is the product and/or process of creative production, which is intended to provoke a strong emotional/aesthetic/intellectual/and visceral response. Art requires two things, intent to produce art, and creative input.

But why? Haha.

Not that i inted to stop or anything, its just that i don't understand what we get out of it.
I've thought this through many times, and i can never come up with an answer that statifies me.

At 2/12/08 06:08 PM, LaserKarl wrote: But why? Haha.

Not that i inted to stop or anything, its just that i don't understand what we get out of it.
I've thought this through many times, and i can never come up with an answer that statifies me.

I've never been too good with words.
I find it easier to put across what I mean by drawing it.

That's why I got into drawing/art/whatever, anyway.

At 2/12/08 06:08 PM, LaserKarl wrote: But why? Haha.

- To make money.
- To convey a message that is either difficult or impossible to convey with words.
- To be able to create an endless supply of porn which can ultimately be sold to
- make money :D

What is Art Discussion

I make art for other people. Nothing is half as exciting, for me at least, as creating something and having other people appreciate it. I think that's why I like NG so much, where else can you get instant feedback on a grand scale?

I also like the process, and thinking about the ending. When I'm done working on a picture, it seem kind of useless to me...

I've never found words to be inadiquate for expression, so the idea of expressing things through art because that's the only way you can put it seems silly to me. How is menstrating on paper any clearer than simply writing "Feminisim," "Un-Sanitary," or "Disgusting" on the wall? Modern art usually ticks me off; sure, they say they're expressing something through art, but the only way it'll make sense is through them explaining it to you. True expression should need no explaination.

I do requests now!

yes that's right. I do requests. BBD pm'd me and since I had nothing to do I at the moment I decided to make him a signature pic. If you guys would like to make a request go for it, but I'll fulfill one that I'm most inclined to do. That being said you could make a request on my art thread, here, or just pm me. it's all gravy. if a request doesn't get fulfilled this means I'm either busy again or I just don't feel like telling you, however I will say so instead of being an asshole and leave you hanging.

So I was browsing the internet and happened to come across this artist named Anthony Lister. He does a sort of abstract comic book character kinda thing. Anyway I really liked what he was doing, especially his interpretation of batman, so I just thought I'd share... that is what this art forum lounge is for isn't it?

At 2/15/08 09:13 AM, enjoyshaun wrote: So I was browsing the internet and happened to come across this artist named Anthony Lister.

Great find!

Ron Mueck is my latest favourite artist. Unbelivable stuff. Many of you have sertainly allready seen this guy. I think what he does is called hyper realism. Big sculptures with incredible detail and feeling. Check it out.

At 2/15/08 10:08 AM, LaserKarl wrote: Ron Mueck is my latest favourite artist. Unbelivable stuff. Many of you have sertainly allready seen this guy. I think what he does is called hyper realism. Big sculptures with incredible detail and feeling. Check it out.

Oh my god, that's insane! I love it, especially the last peice on that page, the self-portrait. :o

At 2/15/08 10:08 AM, LaserKarl wrote:

At 2/15/08 09:13 AM, enjoyshaun wrote: So I was browsing the internet and happened to come across this artist named Anthony Lister.

Great find!

Ron Mueck is my latest favourite artist. Unbelivable stuff. Many of you have sertainly allready seen this guy. I think what he does is called hyper realism. Big sculptures with incredible detail and feeling. Check it out.

my fucking loard.. I thought that was photoshop. damn I hope it becomes a traveling exhibit.

At 2/15/08 09:13 AM, enjoyshaun wrote: So I was browsing the internet and happened to come across this artist named Anthony Lister. He does a sort of abstract comic book character kinda thing. Anyway I really liked what he was doing, especially his interpretation of batman, so I just thought I'd share... that is what this art forum lounge is for isn't it?

this guy is amazing as well. pure genius in his choices. I wonder if he takes requests? I wanted optimus Prime or robocop :-p

Finally i got something on my mind that is worth posting here...

Ive recently bought a new tablet. Not Graphire, not Intuos but Volit02. Yeah whatever, i know its like 2 years old. But i preferred not to spend too much money on something that ive never used in my whole life. The Volito2 is very light and easy to use, even though it isnt wireless.

So far im having a blast with it. If anybody knows, do you think it was worth the purchase? At least ive got myself a tablet after many years. My first ever xP

Here is a commissioned reference of a w40K Guardsman's lasrifle I did, I was wondering if I could get some critique?

At 2/15/08 09:13 AM, enjoyshaun wrote: So I was browsing the internet and happened to come across this artist named Anthony Lister.

lol
I would give exactly 0 dollars for this. Though for a fee of 20 bucks, I would dispose of it for you. Otherwise, you keep it.
I'm so evil :(

At 2/12/08 03:54 AM, Vousielle wrote:

Fractals are patterns in chaos though, so wouldn't an increased randomness be more likely to produce a fractals?

fractals are not random, they're extremely precise mathematical figures. A fractal is a figure that repeats in a such a way that if you zoom on little parts of it, you will find that whole figure again, and so on until infinity. To generate one completely randomly would be impossibly unlikely, though as I said I'm sure that if you look carefully at his giant-ass collection of paintings, you might find some parts of them that SORT of might be "fractals". But that doesn't mean anything nor should it be praised; it's not his fault.
So to even get close to a fractal, you need to print it from a computer rendering.

Here's what a real fractal looks like:

At 2/15/08 03:28 PM, poxpower wrote:
fractals are not random, they're extremely precise mathematical figures. A fractal is a figure that repeats in a such a way that if you zoom on little parts of it, you will find that whole figure again, and so on until infinity.

My point exactly, they are the patterns that permeate the the underlying framework of the universe.
What appears to be random actually falls into a pattern.

quantum physics for the win!

At 2/15/08 10:08 AM, LaserKarl wrote:

Ron Mueck is my latest favourite artist. Unbelivable stuff. Many of you have sertainly allready seen this guy. I think what he does is called hyper realism. Big sculptures with incredible detail and feeling. Check it out.

Wow, thats the most amazing thing i've seen in a while.

At 2/15/08 03:42 PM, Vousielle wrote:

My point exactly, they are the patterns that permeate the the underlying framework of the universe.

er maybe, but in an actual visual representation sense, they're just pretty mathematically generated figures that you can zoom-in on infinitely to re-find the same base figure again.
I'd be very impressed if Jackson Pollock managed to consciously make such an impossibly complicate thing by throwing paint on a glass plate.

At 2/15/08 03:57 PM, poxpower wrote: I'd be very impressed if Jackson Pollock managed to consciously make such an impossibly complicate thing by throwing paint on a glass plate.

consciously? No way in hell. lol

on the subject of Muek, (sorry if i misspelled)

his sculptures are amazing, he had a show at the Andy Warhol Museum a little bit ago and i went to go see it, to see photos of his work is one thing, but to be standing next to a 10 foot tall photorealistic woman sitting in bed, or a foot long man sitting in a boat, it's really surreal, i kept waiting to see them breather or blink or just get up and walk away, it's really almost creepy but amazing

i'd recommend everyone to see his work in person if you get the chance

At 2/15/08 04:03 PM, Captain-Ben wrote: i'd recommend everyone to see his work in person if you get the chance

I saw the Giant newborn one, it was pretty sweet.

At 2/15/08 10:08 AM, LaserKarl wrote: Ron Mueck is my latest favourite artist. Unbelivable stuff. Many of you have sertainly allready seen this guy. I think what he does is called hyper realism. Big sculptures with incredible detail and feeling. Check it out.

That is some amazing work right there it all looks so incredibly detailed. Although I think those two little old ladies might give me nightmares, time to get the plastic sheets out again.

The baby one is cool, but i didn't think it was as realistic as some of his other sculptures

A series of tubes.

alright, sorry for the lame topic idea... but i need some help. How do you keep your characters from simply being connected lines from place to place? sleeves become tubes. hands become spheres. My torsos + shoulders seem to be afflicted by this the most, with many just being a trapezoid with sleeves attached.
folds also seem to elude me.

i'm trying to add detail, to both the lineart and colorings, without reducing my penstrokes to mad-scribbling. (tho... that sometimes helps.)

can anyone help, maybe link to some tutes?
(here's an example i whipped up, the arms i feel kind of confident about, but sleeves/pants are far from realism)

I'm just wondering, does anybody know a site with a bunch of free hand poses, or full body poses? I'm trying to practice drawing people naturally standing and their hands naturally at their sides. If anybody knows a site with some poses I would greatly appreciate it.

At 2/20/08 01:03 AM, Winned wrote: I'm just wondering, does anybody know a site with a bunch of free hand poses, or full body poses? I'm trying to practice drawing people naturally standing and their hands naturally at their sides. If anybody knows a site with some poses I would greatly appreciate it.

I looked through a bunch of my old posts and found this site called www.posemaniacs.com. It's pretty sweet for body poses, I don't think it has hand poses though, just full body and face poses. Hope it helps!