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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-25 01:32:36 Reply

At 2/24/13 11:49 PM, ReNaeNae wrote:
At 2/24/13 11:13 PM, ornery wrote: never understood the point of an ask me anything thread when anyone who I would want to ask something of, I either already talk to via one of 4 or so different chat programs, or I dont care enough about those not in that category to want to ask anything.
but... *some* people can come off as dicks, so not everyone feels comfortable asking them things out of the blue. This way everyone knows that person is open to at least considering answering random questions. Plus it encourages communication and interaction amongst community members... which is always a good thing. So stop being a dick and make a news post ;P

Decent arguments on both sides. Nae seems to be the only one asking those that have amas real questions, but... ask me anything.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-25 21:11:20 Reply

At 2/25/13 01:32 AM, lovingthedark wrote:
Decent arguments on both sides. Nae seems to be the only one asking those that have amas real questions, but... ask me anything.

I'm in this bandwagon I:)

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-26 02:35:33 Reply

ASK ME NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-28 01:52:45 Reply

I have a question, & I didn't know where else would have been a good place to ask, so here it is. When submitting art, when do people generally list it as "Fine Art", or "illustration". Or even "Other". Because when I think "Fine Art" I think of a finished piece that has some decent quality to it, so I definitely feel that my work hasn't reached that tier quite yet, so I just list it as "Illustration". Or am I wrong to list illustration as some "lesser" tier? Should I use Other instead, or is that more for like, sketches & non-finished pieces.

Or maybe I'm overthinking this, I guess all I want is to see other people's work & see what category they would use on certain pieces. That would be reference enough. (I think my brain is seeing the phrase "Fine Art" & thinking that nothing should ever EVER be under that since that would seem pretentious)

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-28 07:43:46 Reply

At 2/28/13 01:52 AM, drakena wrote: Or maybe I'm overthinking this, I guess all I want is to see other people's work & see what category they would use on certain pieces. That would be reference enough. (I think my brain is seeing the phrase "Fine Art" & thinking that nothing should ever EVER be under that since that would seem pretentious)

Personally, I find that I tend to use illustration for things I've done using pencil and sketches, whereas fine art is for paintings, digital or traditionally. I leave other for things like pumpkin carvings, or sculptures.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-28 08:12:46 Reply

Easy rule of thumb.
Illustration = digital stuff
Fine art = traditional stuff
Pixel = obvious pixel art (think early video game graphics)
3D = 3d program art
other = everything else, but mostly traditional sculptures.

Yes there are exceptions for each category but use that as a basic guide and you should be fine.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-28 08:28:40 Reply

At 2/28/13 08:12 AM, ornery wrote: Illustration = digital stuff
Fine art = traditional stuff

This sounds like bullshit to me; It's a difficult distinction to draw, and it's fine if you want to make that distinction (between traditional and digital), but then don't label it as 'Illustration' & 'Fine art'.
This is how I distinguish them.
Illustration illustrates something; a story, a concept; it's value lies in what it achieves through telling this story very well.

concept art, conceptual art, comics etc.

Fine art has a more direct value of it's own esthetic.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-28 09:14:51 Reply

At 2/28/13 08:28 AM, J-qb wrote: This sounds like bullshit to me; It's a difficult distinction to draw, and it's fine if you want to make that distinction (between traditional and digital), but then don't label it as 'Illustration' & 'Fine art'.
At 2/28/13 08:12 AM, ornery wrote: Yes there are exceptions for each category but use that as a basic guide and you should be fine.

Im going to assume that the "basic" was the part you didnt get. For your average user, seeing fine art as traditional, and illustration as digital is the quickest easiest most pain free way of categorizing their work. Its clean cut, black and white, no bullshit. Is it 100% accurate? Fuck no. Can they change the label later if they want? Of course. Are the labels poorly worded? You bet.
I wish i could still find it but it doesnt look like its around anymore, but when the art portal first came out they actually had descriptions of what each category was more or less intended for. Fine Art was described as mostly traditional, illustration was described as mostly digital. Again THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS of course, they arent black and white categories, but for someone who is in doubt of what to stick their piece under, starting Fine art= traditional and illustration = digital is the quickest way to just stick it somewhere and move on to worry about more important things.

If you really want to get into a grey argument area the whole concept of the other category can really waste your time.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-28 12:17:45 Reply

I get the rationale for making that distinction just don't think talking about it like there are exceptions to the rule is right - it implies that there is such a rule to begin with.
Instead i'd just say that it perhaps just happens to be such that digital art is more often illustration and traditional is more often fine art. (And I would dare to question even that)
Anyways, I don't mean to get into an argument about this as I'm pretty sure we actually both agree over the issues that actually matter here.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-02-28 14:43:51 Reply

Well at the least I have an idea of what others are doing, thanks for answering my question :]

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 00:49:25 Reply

I'd love a tall glass of Hawaiian Punch!

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 01:28:21 Reply

Who has two thumbs and is recovering from a concussion? This guy.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 02:38:54 Reply

At 3/3/13 01:28 AM, MajesticBob wrote: Who has two thumbs and is recovering from a concussion? This guy.

Part of me is wondering "What the hell did you do?!"
the rest of me is thinking "Was it cool, and would he name it after me..."


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 09:41:08 Reply

At 3/3/13 02:38 AM, Kinsei01 wrote:
At 3/3/13 01:28 AM, MajesticBob wrote: Who has two thumbs and is recovering from a concussion? This guy.
Part of me is wondering "What the hell did you do?!"
the rest of me is thinking "Was it cool, and would he name it after me..."

Naw, the short story is the cellar stairs has a low hanging shelf. My head picked a fight with it. I lost. I been getting better but man do I have a persistent headache.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 10:06:37 Reply

At 3/3/13 09:41 AM, MajesticBob wrote:
At 3/3/13 02:38 AM, Kinsei01 wrote:
At 3/3/13 01:28 AM, MajesticBob wrote: Who has two thumbs and is recovering from a concussion? This guy.
Part of me is wondering "What the hell did you do?!"
the rest of me is thinking "Was it cool, and would he name it after me..."
Naw, the short story is the cellar stairs has a low hanging shelf. My head picked a fight with it. I lost. I been getting better but man do I have a persistent headache.

ahh, so the next move is how to take your revenge on the shelf.
if you ask me, burn the whole place down, just to be sure...


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 10:35:21 Reply

At 3/3/13 10:06 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: ahh, so the next move is how to take your revenge on the shelf.
if you ask me, burn the whole place down, just to be sure...

Do what the little leprechaun says, MajesticBob.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 11:03:53 Reply

At 3/3/13 10:35 AM, test-object wrote:
At 3/3/13 10:06 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: ahh, so the next move is how to take your revenge on the shelf.
if you ask me, burn the whole place down, just to be sure...
Do what the little leprechaun says, MajesticBob.

No "How you feeling?" or "Are you OK?", No here at the art forums it's "Burn your house down!" "I'll get the torches." "It's the only way to be sure." "Always trust Leprechauns Bob." :P

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 11:22:46 Reply

At 3/3/13 11:03 AM, MajesticBob wrote: No "How you feeling?" or "Are you OK?", No here at the art forums it's "Burn your house down!" "I'll get the torches." "It's the only way to be sure." "Always trust Leprechauns Bob." :P

How's the shelf feeling?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 11:27:18 Reply

At 3/3/13 11:22 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote:
At 3/3/13 11:03 AM, MajesticBob wrote: No "How you feeling?" or "Are you OK?", No here at the art forums it's "Burn your house down!" "I'll get the torches." "It's the only way to be sure." "Always trust Leprechauns Bob." :P
How's the shelf feeling?

Scared. It knows once my Dr. gives me the all clear to use power tools, It's coming down.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 16:00:33 Reply

In case you don't read the activities thread, we've found a new site for chatting in.
http://viptopia.net/
You can log in as a guest, and it has a lot better functionality than tinychat, as well as offering a bunch of interesting features, such as drawing in chat.
The site's admin has created a permanent room for us, so come join us in "NG Art"

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-03 17:23:25 Reply

At 3/3/13 11:03 AM, MajesticBob wrote: No "How you feeling?" or "Are you OK?", No here at the art forums it's "Burn your house down!" "I'll get the torches." "It's the only way to be sure." "Always trust Leprechauns Bob." :P

Welcome back :3


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-06 10:36:31 Reply

At 3/6/13 09:39 AM, Amaranthus wrote: So, what are you guys doing for easter?
Early, what ever.

Harvesting llama fur for proper cultivation of some crops.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-06 14:58:31 Reply

At 3/6/13 10:37 AM, Amaranthus wrote: I'll just dump this link here
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1328418/7

No one from general comes to art, thus no one would "steal" sigs

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-07 21:28:39 Reply

How the doubles competitions entries have been pouring in far

is it over yet?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-07 23:18:56 Reply

Would anyone be interested in a competition where the prizes are steam games?

(but you dont get to know what they are, just the amount the games are worth)

the competition itself isnt anything particularly groundbreaking though.

(but its not difficult)

Do I have to clear it with mods or something?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-08 00:11:30 Reply

At 3/7/13 11:18 PM, Template88 wrote: Do I have to clear it with mods or something?

All competitions do.

However, I know that my laptop is outright fucking awful, and that a lot of people here are either in the same boat or are not gamers outright. So for me at least, it'd depend more on how interesting the competition was compared to any interest in actually winning a prize.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-08 00:27:56 Reply

I think giving steam games as prizes is a great idea only if the competition is related to games somehow.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-08 02:50:37 Reply

At 3/8/13 12:27 AM, J-qb wrote: I think giving steam games as prizes is a great idea only if the competition is related to games somehow.

Like that time someone gave away a copy of Bioshock to the best Bioshock themed pic. That was a fun contest.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-08 08:41:40 Reply

hmm nope it would just be an arbitrary thing since thats all ive got to really give as prizes. Oh well.


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Animation thread: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic /1332069

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2013-03-08 09:30:45 Reply

At 3/8/13 08:41 AM, Template88 wrote: hmm nope it would just be an arbitrary thing since thats all ive got to really give as prizes. Oh well.

maybe it's an idea to give the competition shape in a way that matches the prizes though? not only does it give a nice theme, but it may also ensure that the prizes go to someone who will actually appreciate them...


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