At 1/29/13 02:08 AM, Lucky wrote:
God damn it you guys can you stop begging for money on every collab request thread, get a job or freelance elsewhere. It's pretty obvious when people aren't providing payment if they don't put it up on the original post.
You're doing a disservice to the common predicament these threads find themselves and obviously angling your statement in favour of the prospective collaborator (they're not looking for money, do it'd be presumptuous to call them a client). Badly I might add. Don't quit your day job, propaganda wouldn't work out for you.
The people who post in those threads berating the inquiry as asking for a handout aren't doing so because they'd take the job otherwise, they're doing so because they feel like their skills are being taken for granted and not treated with respect. It doesn't help that the inquirers are obviously intimidated by the prospect of working with skilled artists and therefore feel the intense need to justify people working with them for free (attempting to offer essentially meaningless rewards which have never convinced anyone), so at the slightest provocation they launch into these paragraph long spiels trying to paint themselves as the victim that hinder them like all fuck. Pro-tip; there is no victimization, on either side. Stop acting like it.
These intense insecurities play off each other, perpetually exacerbate themselves and the thread goes to shit. Repeat that a hundred times and voila, you've summed up every non-sketchbook thread in the Art Forum. It's practically a drinking game at this point.
You can't see the forest for the trees and neither can anyone else. Congratulations on being fucking stupid, I need a drink. Something bitter.