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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-01 01:19:11 Reply

At 9/1/12 01:14 AM, CypressDahlia wrote: I hate trolling and, in the same vein, I hate people who just want to ruin someone's day for no reason.

Some men just want to want to set the world on fire.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-01 01:43:20 Reply

Meh. It's just so...stupid? I get rating bombed on a daily basis. Took a bit, but I'm used to it.

The thing is I started off in the portal with a lot of art experience. No amount of BS could discourage me, because I had already invested many years into art. But for a new guy, I imagine quitting is a very easy option...

I don't really like the idea of an Art Portal that discourages people from practicing art.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-01 06:49:56 Reply

I think that anyone worrying about their score in the portal in the first few days it gets put up is wasting their time. There are so few votes on most of the new pieces that any vote drastically changes the score. Eventually if the person is good enough to warrant further looks at their stuff the scores will start averaging out to what they should be.

And someone would have to be rather dedicated to zero bombing to start effecting a piece that has a solid number of votes behind it. If you feel this is happening to you however and have a suspect try talking to wade to see if he can prove it for you. It wouldn't be the first time users have been punished for senseless and relentless zero bombing.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-01 10:09:50 Reply

TBH, I have no idea. It's easy to pinpoint a hater based on motive, but if someone is just doing it without rhyme or reason it's p. much impossible to put a name to it. I don't think there is a true motive to zero bombing the entire New Art section other than simply being an angry individual. It just bothered me is all.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-01 15:24:50 Reply

At 9/1/12 10:09 AM, CypressDahlia wrote: TBH, I have no idea. It's easy to pinpoint a hater based on motive, but if someone is just doing it without rhyme or reason it's p. much impossible to put a name to it. I don't think there is a true motive to zero bombing the entire New Art section other than simply being an angry individual. It just bothered me is all.

There is still technically a reason for it regardless of how unclear that reason is, one reason I can understand is a want to troll, as there is simply no way to regulate this, we are stuck in a system that can be easily perverted, the only thing we can do it ask that voters express human decency, but if you assume that decency is commonplace on the internet, then one has not traveled far into the depths of the internet, nor do they know of the unholiness that can come of the netizens ( http://7chan.org/ ).

In my opinion a better system would be to tie the voting process to writing a review and consider the value of that vote on how well the community likes said review, removing the simple vote only option, however looking upon said system I can see many ways that perversion can take place.

Cypress, one such as yourself should not dwell on such things, your art is such high quality most will simply outvote the outliers, as for the lower class of artists such as myself, we'll make do, I personally care not and merely accept what I'm given, beggars cannot be choosers, its better than riling yourself up wasting precious hours in the day in a ruined mood, let us not forget that emotion follows inspiration.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-01 16:09:05 Reply

nah you guys are pretty much right. I'm just being a whiner. I just don't think I'll ever find it acceptable to be a random dick to a bunch of people.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-02 01:53:47 Reply

I know I'm basically a day late with posting about this, but September's probably as good as time as any to start a 30 day drawing challenge!!! I'll be participating along with my friend that told me about it, and I think it's a good exercise. There are several out there already but thisis the one I'm using.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-02 08:23:54 Reply

At 9/2/12 08:07 AM, M-Maher wrote: Comic Jam 3

Well submissions for this one are already closed, so, you know. One less thing to do, maybe.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-02 08:56:56 Reply

At 9/2/12 08:23 AM, Aigis wrote:
At 9/2/12 08:07 AM, M-Maher wrote: Comic Jam 3
Well submissions for this one are already closed, so, you know. One less thing to do, maybe.

still, I did plan on doing something for that but then I got side tracked by college enrollment.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-02 14:06:45 Reply

Linked to me by Bob

All hail the taco!

TACO!

my god.... I can't turn it off... o.o'

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-02 14:25:08 Reply

At 9/2/12 02:06 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: Linked to me by Bob
All hail the taco!
TACO!
my god.... I can't turn it off... o.o'

Good, good. Let the Taco flow.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-02 14:28:34 Reply

At 9/2/12 02:25 PM, MajesticBob wrote:
At 9/2/12 02:06 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: Linked to me by Bob
All hail the taco!
TACO!
my god.... I can't turn it off... o.o'
Good, good. Let the Taco flow.

Join the taco side younglings


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-02 14:33:14 Reply

At 9/2/12 02:06 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: Linked to me by Bob
All hail the taco!
TACO!
my god.... I can't turn it off... o.o'

I do not like the voices nor do I like the heavy auto-tuning.
All in all, the only thing I like about it is the subject matter.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-02 14:49:13 Reply

At 9/2/12 02:33 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote:
At 9/2/12 02:06 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: Linked to me by Bob
All hail the taco!
TACO!
my god.... I can't turn it off... o.o'
I do not like the voices nor do I like the heavy auto-tuning.
All in all, the only thing I like about it is the subject matter.

Well Tacos add plus 10 to Awesome on anything really.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-03 17:47:10 Reply

I have to ask something, Am I doing the right thing by garnering a follow ship of people that enjoy my work and are more likely to buy merchandise (like graphics novels, t-shirts, prints) before I truly delve into being a full time artist? Or should I just be creating what I want and hope that people will eventually enjoy what I've created?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-03 19:33:10 Reply

At 9/3/12 05:47 PM, Mabelma wrote: I have to ask something, Am I doing the right thing by garnering a follow ship of people that enjoy my work and are more likely to buy merchandise (like graphics novels, t-shirts, prints) before I truly delve into being a full time artist? Or should I just be creating what I want and hope that people will eventually enjoy what I've created?

depends on what your goal is....
If you want to make money quickly; your best bet is to sell out and just make what poeple pay for. If you want to be long-term succesfull you'd be better of investing in yourself rather than others, but that is always a gamble, for it may not pay out.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-03 19:47:49 Reply

At 9/3/12 05:47 PM, Mabelma wrote: I doing the right thing by garnering a follow ship of people that enjoy my work and are more likely to buy merchandise (like graphics novels, t-shirts, prints) before I truly delve into being a full time artist? Or should I just be creating what I want and hope that people will eventually enjoy what I've created?

¿Por que no los dos?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-03 19:49:27 Reply

At 9/3/12 07:33 PM, J-qb wrote:
At 9/3/12 05:47 PM, Mabelma wrote: I have to ask something, Am I doing the right thing by garnering a follow ship of people that enjoy my work and are more likely to buy merchandise (like graphics novels, t-shirts, prints) before I truly delve into being a full time artist? Or should I just be creating what I want and hope that people will eventually enjoy what I've created?
depends on what your goal is....
If you want to make money quickly; your best bet is to sell out and just make what poeple pay for. If you want to be long-term succesfull you'd be better of investing in yourself rather than others, but that is always a gamble, for it may not pay out.

I want to be long-term successful, right now I'm 17 going on 18, I figured if I gathered enough of an audience in the coming years that by the time I'm 21 or 23 I'll be able to create things that I want and that people will actually want to buy.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-04 18:31:57 Reply

At 9/3/12 05:47 PM, Mabelma wrote: I have to ask something, Am I doing the right thing by garnering a follow ship of people that enjoy my work and are more likely to buy merchandise (like graphics novels, t-shirts, prints) before I truly delve into being a full time artist? Or should I just be creating what I want and hope that people will eventually enjoy what I've created?

I think you should just create what you want. If you keep producing the same sort of material for an audience's sake, then you aren't really getting anywhere as an artist. I mean, you're still young. You've got a lot of time to figure out how to make a living out of art, but (again, just my opinion) it's so important to figure out where you personally want to go in art and what aesthetic you're trying to achieve. It's easier to improve when you have that sort of goal in mind, and once you get to a place where you're truly happy with the direction your art is heading then who know? Maybe there's actually a bigger market out there for what you could be doing. And if not, then at least you've got a backup with your pre-established niche, right?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 16:03:14 Reply

At 9/3/12 05:47 PM, Mabelma wrote: I have to ask something, Am I doing the right thing by garnering a follow ship of people that enjoy my work and are more likely to buy merchandise (like graphics novels, t-shirts, prints) before I truly delve into being a full time artist? Or should I just be creating what I want and hope that people will eventually enjoy what I've created?

depends how you want to approach it, wanna be a filthy nazi racist conservative redneck hillbilly inbred capitalist then you make them buy as much shit as possible! wanna be a dirty communist gay jew loving gypsy hippy tranny socialist libral, then you do that art until someone gives a chit!

note: no one was discriminated, everyone was insulted equally

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 16:19:01 Reply

At 9/5/12 04:03 PM, M-Maher wrote: note: no one was discriminated, everyone was insulted equally

Which means that everyone hates you equally.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 16:23:09 Reply

At 9/5/12 04:19 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote:
At 9/5/12 04:03 PM, M-Maher wrote: note: no one was discriminated, everyone was insulted equally
Which means that everyone hates you equally.

thats equality!

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 17:05:46 Reply

Which means that everyone hates you equally.

then again in theory it draws both sides away from conflict witch in turn brings collaboration in defeating a common foe, and collaboration is technically what we need.

Chaotic good, Lawful evil, two sides of the same coin.

apologies for the double post
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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 20:23:35 Reply

I've seen a video saying it takes around 10 years (or something, vaguely remember) to become a success in the creative industry. You might get lucky, you might end up spending years trying to perfect yourself.

Point is not to give up, and you'll be famous, as long as you believe in your work.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 20:33:22 Reply

I think this may count as spamming, But could anyone here help me with my problem over in the animation forum?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 21:39:10 Reply

At 9/5/12 05:05 PM, M-Maher wrote:
apologies for the double post

The fact that it was a double post is the is not the aspect you should be apologizing for.

At 9/5/12 08:23 PM, Izzy-A wrote: Point is not to give up, and you'll be famous, as long as you believe in your work.

I agree with Izzy here; it doesn't really matter what path you choose, just have the tenacity to follow it through.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 21:44:32 Reply

At 9/5/12 08:33 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: I think this may count as spamming, But could anyone here help me with my problem over in the animation forum?

I'll totally help out when I get home :o

At 9/5/12 08:23 PM, Izzy-A wrote: Point is not to give up, and you'll be famous, as long as you believe in your work.
I agree with Izzy here; it doesn't really matter what path you choose, just have the tenacity to follow it through.

Hell yeh, as long as you believe in the you who believes in yourself!

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 21:48:20 Reply

At 9/5/12 09:44 PM, Lucky wrote:
At 9/5/12 08:33 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: I think this may count as spamming, But could anyone here help me with my problem over in the animation forum?
I'll totally help out when I get home :o

Thanks to nae, I got it.
And a kitten picture has already been paid so sorry, I'm now all out of kittens


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-09-05 21:49:35 Reply

Thank you all for your comments, I think that, I'm going down the right path, just need to keep at it and hope that my skill as an artist grows as much as my following.