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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 29th, 2012 @ 02:21 PM Reply

At 5/29/12 01:28 PM, Knocturne wrote: That guy is a wood genius or something.

well you've got to if you play with your wood all day


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 29th, 2012 @ 05:36 PM Reply

At 5/29/12 02:21 PM, M-Maher wrote:
At 5/29/12 01:28 PM, Knocturne wrote: That guy is a wood genius or something.
well you've got to if you play with your wood all day

Oh, you're such a card!

Anyone have tips for sculpting or wanna link me to something because I've been struggling with:
A. Molding a solid piece of clay by hand and keeping it consistent without the heat from my hands messing up everything
B. Figuring what to use to make the clay nice and paintable without being glossy


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 29th, 2012 @ 07:00 PM Reply

I'd just go out and buy some cheap carving tools, i wouldn't imagine they'd be more than 10 bucks. Much less frustration down the line, especially if you wanna make more stuff, because the heat from your hands is gonna be more or less unavoidable.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 29th, 2012 @ 10:08 PM Reply

A. Molding a solid piece of clay by hand and keeping it consistent without the heat from my hands messing up everything
At 5/29/12 07:00 PM, M-Vero wrote: I'd just go out and buy some cheap carving tools, i wouldn't imagine they'd be more than 10 bucks. Much less frustration down the line, especially if you wanna make more stuff, because the heat from your hands is gonna be more or less unavoidable.

Then again, if you don't want to buy anything, you could just use things from around your house. Old silverware, especially a spoon, is great for carving and finishing the surface of a sculpture.

B. Figuring what to use to make the clay nice and paintable without being glossy

You really shouldn't have to use anything. If you're using Sculpey or something similar, just fire that shit and it should be ready to paint. Then again, if you're using ceramic clay, you might want to sand the surface a bit after you fire whatever you're making. Wear a respirator, though; clay dust isn't something you want to breath.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 30th, 2012 @ 12:27 AM Reply

I don't know why I didn't think to use retired tools and such, I started using some fans (from drumming) and exactos and stuff I have been suffering a week long brainfart or something.

And thanks for giving me an excuse to buy a cool gas mask


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 30th, 2012 @ 01:55 AM Reply

What kind of clay have you been using? Most of the ones i can think of aren't affected by heat.
Also, I like self-hardening clay myself- as long as you keep it damp it's workable.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 30th, 2012 @ 06:18 PM Reply

Probably not going to do this, but has anybody ever made a thread before that was open to anyone and basically just a free for all draw brawl?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 30th, 2012 @ 06:27 PM Reply

At 5/30/12 06:18 PM, Template88 wrote: Probably not going to do this, but has anybody ever made a thread before that was open to anyone and basically just a free for all draw brawl?

Yes, at least I think it's what you're talking about. About a year ago or so, it was a blast until everyone got bored and or were tired to getting ninja'd by 2 minute doodles.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 30th, 2012 @ 06:28 PM Reply

At 5/30/12 06:18 PM, Template88 wrote: Probably not going to do this, but has anybody ever made a thread before that was open to anyone and basically just a free for all draw brawl?

As in; "my drawing is better than your drawing" (don't think that hasz been done) OR
" Heres my draawing of my character kickijg yiur character in the butt" (has been done numerous times)


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 30th, 2012 @ 06:44 PM Reply

At 5/30/12 06:27 PM, M-Vero wrote:
At 5/30/12 06:18 PM, Template88 wrote: Probably not going to do this, but has anybody ever made a thread before that was open to anyone and basically just a free for all draw brawl?
Yes, at least I think it's what you're talking about. About a year ago or so, it was a blast until everyone got bored and or were tired to getting ninja'd by 2 minute doodles.

interesting, rules would need to be made to make that not really a thing that could happen. boredom i could see being a thing, but if it was open to anyone i could see it going on for a while. just a good excuse to draw some dynamic poses and design a little bit. i used to be a drawfag on 4chan so that style of posting is pretty common to me but im not so sure about the other people here. It can be alot of work, would it be worth making again do you think? id hate to be the only one posting.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 30th, 2012 @ 07:07 PM Reply

At 5/30/12 06:18 PM, Template88 wrote: Probably not going to do this, but has anybody ever made a thread before that was open to anyone and basically just a free for all draw brawl?

its actually been done many times, loads of themes lots of different takes on it, all the same outcome, about a week or so of drawings then they eventually die down and fall into the abyss of the forum, are you thinking about a battle style thread or an ongoing story type thing, the battles are usually more fun and last longer

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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 30th, 2012 @ 11:40 PM Reply

At 5/30/12 06:27 PM, M-Vero wrote: Yes, at least I think it's what you're talking about. About a year ago or so, it was a blast until everyone got bored and or were tired to getting ninja'd by 2 minute doodles.

Ah yes, the Battle Royale, many a moon ago....

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Response to Art Forum Lounge May. 31st, 2012 @ 12:45 AM Reply

I don't know if you guys like dragons...Well, i do. And i don't know if you guys know Chris Scalf. Because he's probably my biggest inspiration. Prepare your minds for epicness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb3RNpiNKAE

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"Ahhh, that would be impossible to do in real life"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmJ857jS6Lk


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 03:55 PM Reply

Would it be considered a dick move to re-drawn another artist's artwork to prove a point?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 04:06 PM Reply

At 6/1/12 03:55 PM, CypressDahlia wrote: Would it be considered a dick move to re-drawn another artist's artwork to prove a point?

It's not if it turns out better.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 04:06 PM Reply

At 6/1/12 03:55 PM, CypressDahlia wrote: Would it be considered a dick move to re-drawn another artist's artwork to prove a point?

Probably.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 04:08 PM Reply

I already know that a lot of people are gonna shit on me for it if I go through with it, simply because it can be construed as a jab at a...particularly famous Newgrounds artist.

but I care very little for that. I'm just wondering if there's anything actually wrong with doing that. Also, would I get in trouble for taking the concept?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 04:51 PM Reply

At 6/1/12 04:08 PM, CypressDahlia wrote: I already know that a lot of people are gonna shit on me for it if I go through with it, simply because it can be construed as a jab at a...particularly famous Newgrounds artist.

but I care very little for that. I'm just wondering if there's anything actually wrong with doing that. Also, would I get in trouble for taking the concept?

That would be fatelogic, right?
And i've actually seen people redrawing the paintings and then uploading it to ng. But they gave some credits, and they were forgiven. So, i don't really know, it's up to you


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 04:53 PM Reply

I'd be more upset about you being a dick to one of the more obscure or unskilled artists. The famous ones probably aren't so easy to offend by now.

Is this for the M&A thing, or just general practice?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 06:21 PM Reply

At 6/1/12 04:51 PM, NiteCrow wrote: That would be fatelogic, right?

Ohhhh no~ I'm way past dealing with that guy. haha.

He's pretty much a lost cause. The only way he'll improve is when the shame of doing...what he does...catches up to him, at which point he'll either quit drawing or start over from scratch.

I'm talking Shadman.

And nah, it's not for M&A. I would never enter a copy of another artist's work into a contest. Though it does serve a similar, educational purpose.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 06:38 PM Reply

At 6/1/12 06:21 PM, CypressDahlia wrote: I'm talking Shadman.

id say it wouldnt offend him, it'd more be taken the wrong way by his fanbase, then good luck trying to get through to them, id run the idea by shad first or at least ask him first before you do it just to make sure, but the fanbase probably still wont take it well

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 06:51 PM Reply

Oh, I have no problem with his fanbase not taking it well haha. It'll be a jolt to them. That's exactly what it's supposed to be: a jolt. An educational jolt. Personally, I think they need it. Wake 'em up; remind them what female bodies actually look like. I just want to know if it's against any kind of NG rules.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 07:00 PM Reply

Doesn't sound like it would count as art theft. It's not even like you aren't planning to credit your resource.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 07:16 PM Reply

At 6/1/12 06:51 PM, CypressDahlia wrote: Oh, I have no problem with his fanbase not taking it well haha. It'll be a jolt to them. That's exactly what it's supposed to be: a jolt. An educational jolt. Personally, I think they need it. Wake 'em up; remind them what female bodies actually look like. I just want to know if it's against any kind of NG rules.

I say either be clear about what you're planning to do; or just do it. We can't tell if it's okay or not if we don't know what you're planning to do. I'm sure it'll be fine though.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 07:22 PM Reply

Sorry if I'm being unclear, then. I'm simply planning to re-draw one of his drawings. Same concept, different artist. And it will go up in the portal. That's pretty much it. Of course I'll link the original in the description.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 07:40 PM Reply

At 6/1/12 07:22 PM, CypressDahlia wrote: Sorry if I'm being unclear, then. I'm simply planning to re-draw one of his drawings. Same concept, different artist. And it will go up in the portal. That's pretty much it. Of course I'll link the original in the description.

His fanbase will take it stupidly, and he will just laugh.
He's not going to learn anything, try as you might, he's thick.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 07:48 PM Reply

At 6/1/12 06:21 PM, CypressDahlia wrote: I'm talking Shadman.

Aw, I thought you were going to avoid mentioning his name.
You were doing so well!


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 07:59 PM Reply

Yeah, that's prolly how it's going to go down. But from what I've observed with the whole PixelCake debacle, Shadman can be a little sensitive. Even if he doesn't decide to step his game up, it'll put a thorn in his side. Who knows, it might become a regular thing. Hell, I might start doing one every week.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 09:40 PM Reply

There is nothing wrong with redrawing another artists piece and changing it to your style. One artist's version of a subject might be totally different from anothers. Look at all the variations of American Gothic, or the scream, or the mona lisa.

They arent copies so much as they are parodies or retellings of the same piece through the skill and style of a different artist. Its always cool to see how a different artist might have handled a certain image or idea.

In fact I had a contest that revolved around this very idea planned. Taking one artist's work and remaking it as your own. I scrapped it due to time issues but I might revive the idea one of these days.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 10:07 PM Reply

Now I just gotta ask myself if I wanna deal with the inevitable hatemail and zero bombing. The zero bombing, I've come to accept. I get at least 2-3 on a daily basis. I have a pretty good idea of who it is, and it happens on pretty regular intervals, so I'm assuming it's the same few people. But the hatemail might just be annoying.