At 7/17/12 01:36 AM, CypressDahlia wrote:
I'm not really trying to play devil's advocate. I'm just being honest.
How is Hiryu any worse for the portal than this?
I understand he's more annoying, but when if we're talking about upholding a standard of quality or tastefulness I don't see how Hiryu is any more harmful than Shadman.
I can't remember if it was you or not who seemed to have an ax to grind with Shad for some reason. That aside, you have to admit that Shads work is of better quality than Hiryu. Shads anatomy isn't flawless, but his execution is good (I'm not talking his sexy girl shit, I mean his other work) and has a style that sort of harkens back to 80s pulp comics and metal artwork. There's a definite, unique style to his work (again, not his sexy chick fodder). The problem with Hiryu is that while he's not terrible, he's drawing in a style that for some reason nowadays every fucking kid I meet who wants to get into drawing cartoons wants to draw anime. I volunteer at a center that offers art classes to public school kids, and it's honestly hilarious how many kids stubbornly draw anime when they're rubbish at it. I understand you have to practice to get good, but when you're flooded with so much of the same style, you have to be better than "just okay" at it to stand out. That honestly sucks for people who want to try and stand out in that style, but it's the truth of the matter. Being alright or decent at drawing anime isn't good enough, because there's just so many people that are alright at it. Someone like Shad gets a pass because how many other artists on here are working in that 80s pulp/metal cartoon style? Not nearly as many kids that are drawing anime. Again, I don't mean his fap fodder which unfortunately is like 80% of what he does nowadays. But stuff like this, this, and thisare genuinely sweet. The guy has talent, he just unfortunately doesn't use it a whole lot lately. There's nothing in Hiryu's gallery that really stands out to me, it all looks like what every other kid who wants to draw anime draws. If his pieces were funny, interesting, or had more ambitious subject matter than one anime character in a rigid pose with okay anatomy I'd be more inclined to let it pass through the portal.
Subject matter? I completely agree with you. The difference with Shad though is that he occasionally does produce something that's genuinely cool, and more than just beat fodder for repressed teenagers. I 100% wish Shad would do more of his pulp-like work like skeletons rocking out to metal and riding big ass motorcycles and stuff. It's way cooler than his umpteenth drawing of a slutty girl, or when he's just drawing stuff to get a rise out of people.
Other art mods may think differently than I do, and I tend to sometimes be a little harsh with what's okay and not okay, but to stay in the portal the artist has to have something that sparks as interesting to stay in the portal. Quality aside, there has to be something about it that I can understand why people would want to/need to see it. Something about it that just genuinely makes me think "This should be seen by other people." That seems too harsh as I write it out, but it's the best way I can think to explain my reasoning for what I see as okay and not okay for portal. It's not necessarily a matter of quality. It's a matter of is it something other people need to see, or should it stick to the forums for improvement.
I've droned on much longer than I meant to, but maybe this'll help you understand what goes through at least my head when perusing the forums.
I in no way represent the ideas and feelings of other art mods.