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Sorry to derail the stimulating discussion, but here's a song my band recorded, which doesn't fit on our ep due to it's style and we don't really want to include in our b-sides cd we're releasing either. Check it out or not, your choise:

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  Ashes in My November Sky by ThePlanetPluto

  A song about nostalgia and change

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I guess it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so painfully obvious that someone just 0-bombed a piece.

Like 10 people thought "x art" deserved a 4.7, give or take. One more person votes and the score is now 4.2. And maybe that better reflects what that one person thinks of the piece but what about the opinions of the 10 people that came before them? The average is no longer an average but rather it's engineered to suit one person's opinion, in which case an individual review would've been more suitable.

And yeah I don't get why you can vote multiple times on a piece, either. This entire voting system seems a little slapshod in concept ( no offense ).

I dunno if anybody'll read this & it doesn't matter if anybody gives a damn, but I feel like saying it somewhere anyway.
Is it just me...or do you have to be just way too talented on NG to get anywhere when it comes to artwork standards?
On deviantART, for example...I used to feel like, eh my art's pretty sub-par, but people gave me helpful feedback & it
helped me improve quite a lot. Here, on the other hand, it seems like a pretty steep hill by comparison.
It's either just not exactly a very helpful community or a MUCH, MUCH less tolerant one. It really seems very unfair.
An amateur artist on deviantART can get started, get pointers, and get better at what they do, but here...no so. :/

At 4/29/12 05:18 AM, M0nk3m4n wrote: I dunno if anybody'll read this & it doesn't matter if anybody gives a damn, but I feel like saying it somewhere anyway.
Is it just me...or do you have to be just way too talented on NG to get anywhere when it comes to artwork standards?
On deviantART, for example...I used to feel like, eh my art's pretty sub-par, but people gave me helpful feedback & it
helped me improve quite a lot. Here, on the other hand, it seems like a pretty steep hill by comparison.
It's either just not exactly a very helpful community or a MUCH, MUCH less tolerant one. It really seems very unfair.
An amateur artist on deviantART can get started, get pointers, and get better at what they do, but here...no so. :/

and i always felt on DA no one comments on your work unless you're doing fanart and feels like a graveyard a lot of the times , different experiences i guess. I do find the art forum a lot more encouraging then just submiting my stuff on DA, at least i get actual comments here

In general neither place is particularly helpful if you have no idea where to find the help.

In the art forums, you make a thread, read art101 and watch the lounge and other people's threads and you'll pick up on helpful info, a lot of the response for your own personal thread just comes down to how interested people are in helping or commenting. But both communities really have an even smaller niche.

I found that if I ever wanted real feedback I'd have to be on the art forum's stickam room really, and in DA I have only ever gotten feedback that wasn't "OH SO CUTE/CREEPY <3" when I was in a DA group chat.

I am a little astonished you received real feedback on your art on DA because I've been going there for almost 7 years and totally don't get that really. Especially now that I stopped posting fan art on my page.

At 4/29/12 05:18 AM, M0nk3m4n wrote: I dunno if anybody'll read this & it doesn't matter if anybody gives a damn, but I feel like saying it somewhere anyway.
Is it just me...or do you have to be just way too talented on NG to get anywhere when it comes to artwork standards?
On deviantART, for example...I used to feel like, eh my art's pretty sub-par, but people gave me helpful feedback & it
helped me improve quite a lot. Here, on the other hand, it seems like a pretty steep hill by comparison.
It's either just not exactly a very helpful community or a MUCH, MUCH less tolerant one. It really seems very unfair.
An amateur artist on deviantART can get started, get pointers, and get better at what they do, but here...no so. :/

The standard on DA is seemingly lower because there is a larger number of artists in general (ie. more crap to sort through). The number of good artists just seems smaller in proportion. Some of the best artists in the world use DA (maybe just for publicity, tho), so I wouldn't say NG has a higher standard. But I wouldn't say NG has a low standard, either. I mean the guy who now works on League of Legends used to post art here.

The reason why it's harder to get feedback and such here is 1.) NG is not exclusively about art and 2.) the interface of NG's Art Portal is streamlined to the point where art is replaced at a very high rate. Your work could be out of the public eye within one or two hours past uploading it. Most people never venture past the front page to look for art.

At 4/30/12 01:13 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Well, I made this about 8 hours ago, but didn't decide to plug it..... might as well plug it now.
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/483483

Dude, that's spot on :D Great job!

Okay gents. I've been having a bit of an e-identity crisis thus far and have seriously been considering a name change. So, a question for the masses: "siliconcat" or "siliconlynx"?

As a bonus question, these names do not evoke thoughts of furries, now they?

At 5/1/12 08:16 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: NEITHER.

NOT AN OPTION
Sorry mum, but I ain't wearing that nickname you go me.

At 5/1/12 08:06 AM, Re2deemer wrote: "siliconcat"

We already know you are a handsome cat, there is no need implyings it in your names you knows! Re2deemer is an awesomes name and you shall stick with its you knows!

At 5/1/12 09:23 AM, MeowolaSS wrote: Re2deemer is an awesomes name and you shall stick with its you knows!

'fraid I don't know. Long story short, "Re2deemer" has been a convenient name that I could use everywhere because its a unique combination, eliminating any chance of a naming conflict.

However, with convenience came a downside that has become more and more worrisome for me lately: it hardly has a future. It is hardly evocative, it is hard to spell, hard to remember and most of all, it's not a name that I wouldn't feel embarrassed giving out to friends and/or employers. It's also not a name that would make for great brand recognition. Think back at some recognizable folk on the net. Can you think of some that had a number in their name (and if they did, did they not have a simpler, easier to remember nickname)? I can only think of one, "deadMau5".

That last part felt especially silly to write, as if I had some fame mania saying that I must be e-famous. THE INTERNET WILL LOVE ME OR IT WILL BURRRRN. That is not the case....it's just that I don't really want to exclude that chance. By now, being 19, I've realized that some things are better done with some foresight. Crafting a self-identity, even if it's on the Internet(which many may not consider serious business), is one of those things. I just want one that I feel comfortable with.

...I'm not saying a silicon-based name is the only option here, of course I'm still prodding and thinking over the different options.

If you want something distinct and evocative, following lazymuffin's guide to usernames(verb-adj, or in this case noun, and another noun) isn't the way to go.

At 5/1/12 06:50 PM, M-Vero wrote: If you want something distinct and evocative, following lazymuffin's guide to usernames(verb-adj, or in this case noun, and another noun) isn't the way to go.

Ugh, people that follow that form of naming are just terrible.

Hahaha, it's funny because you know you're being ironic.

....god I love this forum.

^true story.

ChocolateKitteh's thread has gotten some of the most childish comments i've seen

At 4/29/12 01:54 PM, EnactJudo wrote: 13/f/cali looking 4 marine to satisfy my needs

At 5/1/12 01:21 AM, HotCakes wrote: that is hot

At 5/1/12 10:16 AM, SenatorJohnDean wrote: A boner IS art.

At 5/1/12 06:30 PM, EnactJudo wrote: shit on my face

is it just me? should this kind of behavior be encouraged in a personal art thread