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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 02:02 PM Reply

At 2/3/08 11:16 AM, Darkaxl wrote:
At 2/3/08 11:05 AM, MindChamber wrote:
At 2/3/08 10:01 AM, ArthurGhostly wrote: Perhaps I was just hugged too much as a child.
perhaps
but most of the time is because probably mommy has pinned every scribble they have shitted out on the refrigerator, and they expect their peers to do the same.
Jesus mc , obviously not a lover of the children?

Your gonna make a great father.

actually my deal is I treat them and speak to them with the same level of respect I would one of my peers.
children, no fake when they see it, and coddling parents simply get themselves played in the long run...

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 02:07 PM Reply

I am having trouble drawing the wrinkles/dips (you know what I mean) in clothing, not so much I can't draw them, but rather, I have trouble imagining what they should look like. Any advice? I really don't want to have to look up pictures of people wearing clothes just to draw realistic wrinkles.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 02:10 PM Reply

say, mindchamber, can i post a pic with a question here, since noone seems to see my question...
cuz every1 just scrolls down and places a rant about who knows what!!

so can i?
that way someone might see it and answer...


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 02:18 PM Reply

At 2/3/08 02:07 PM, PhoenixTails wrote: I am having trouble drawing the wrinkles/dips (you know what I mean) in clothing, not so much I can't draw them, but rather, I have trouble imagining what they should look like. Any advice? I really don't want to have to look up pictures of people wearing clothes just to draw realistic wrinkles.

well you can look at your own clothes.....stuff them and put them into a position.....or hang them off a chair and draw them out.....after awhile you'll get the hang of that.....take a picture of your self with baggy or tight pants.....and take note on where the folds show.....examine it and catch the details....or if you have siblings or something like that get them to stand in front of you and draw them.....either way you work with what you can get and got

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 03:18 PM Reply

At 2/3/08 02:07 PM, PhoenixTails wrote: I am having trouble drawing the wrinkles/dips (you know what I mean) in clothing, not so much I can't draw them, but rather, I have trouble imagining what they should look like. Any advice? I really don't want to have to look up pictures of people wearing clothes just to draw realistic wrinkles.

This might help: http://www.creativespotlite.com/drawing/
drapery-tutorial-1.htm

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 05:05 PM Reply

At 2/3/08 03:18 PM, mynamewontfitin wrote: This might help: http://www.creativespotlite.com/drawing/
drapery-tutorial-1.htm

That didn't load for me.
Don't know if the problems on my end.
Just thought I'd tell you.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 05:23 PM Reply

dunno if i should post this in the art forum or what, but does anyone know anything about being/becoming a "Technical Artist" for videogames, or about anything in that field?

from the few days when i visited vicarious visions (they did gh3, i think), it looked like that is the kind of job i'd fit under... doing neither polywork nor physics engines, but working as the link between programmers and artists to make art apps and teach 3d tools to more traditional artists.

or if anyone knows a good place to look for future college education in either art or 3d programming?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 07:58 PM Reply

At 2/3/08 02:10 PM, Gromuluss wrote: say, mindchamber, can i post a pic with a question here, since noone seems to see my question...
cuz every1 just scrolls down and places a rant about who knows what!!

so can i?
that way someone might see it and answer...

dont see why not

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 08:12 PM Reply

I'm in a stage where I can't seem to paint or draw anything, I have no inspiration because I keep hyping myself up about things SO DAMN much, that those things get boring and annoying to think about. It's happening right now with warhammer-I want to make a new dwarf army but I totally doubt I'll be able to muster up enough money before I hate it again :/

Does anyone know of any collabs or something, almost like the munnys, but more like ng sketchbook?
A while ago I saw something where you get a little wooden cube to paint and send it back in, But I think that was only for UK kids.

Halp?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 08:22 PM Reply

:Motivational?:
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if you hang around the intermediate/advanced boards, there are some really nice people. just ask if ya want to start a collab with someone!

(this is... assuming you want to work computer art skillz)

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 3rd, 2008 @ 08:35 PM Reply

Motivational?

i- Scribble
if you hang around the intermediate/advanced boards, there are some really nice people. just ask if ya want to start a collab with someone!

(this is... assuming you want to work computer art skillz)

okay I created one as HahaB or RedRobot
It's called newgrounds dot awesome or something


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 5th, 2008 @ 02:02 PM Reply

..::tablet PC's::..

Does anyone know anything about tablet PC's? I'm looking to get a new laptop and getting a tablet PC with Wacom Penabled technology seems like the smart thing to do. At the advice of a friend I'm looking at Lenovo right now, they don't seem to offer the same level of processing as other tablet PC's (HP, Toshiba) but the Lenovo has discreet graphics which, I'm told, is very important. If an of you has used one, how accurate was the stylus for drawing?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 5th, 2008 @ 06:17 PM Reply

At 2/5/08 02:02 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: Does anyone know anything about tablet PC's? I'm looking to get a new laptop and getting a tablet PC with Wacom Penabled technology seems like the smart thing to do. At the advice of a friend I'm looking at Lenovo right now, they don't seem to offer the same level of processing as other tablet PC's (HP, Toshiba) but the Lenovo has discreet graphics which, I'm told, is very important. If an of you has used one, how accurate was the stylus for drawing?

Awesome Tablet PCs

Honestly, some teachers at my school have the Thinkpad tablets, which seem to work as well for school stuff, so I'm sure graphics programs could run fine (our computers come with a shitload of CS3 stuff).

As for drawing, from the limited experience I've had with the Thinkpad tablets I can say that it improved my handwriting.

God, a tablet would be so convenient. Or a scanner.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 5th, 2008 @ 06:46 PM Reply

At 2/5/08 02:02 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::tablet PC's::..

Does anyone know anything about tablet PC's?

I love mine.
Best investment I ever made.
Toshiba M200 which is very old, but it suits me fine.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 5th, 2008 @ 06:54 PM Reply

Super-duper Tablet PC

Kraig, have you checked out the 2710p?

It's quality shit man, good price too.
2GB DDR2 memory, which can be upgraded easily.
It has a decent hdd, 100gigs of space. Not too shabby.
The processor isn't the best, but if you're only using it for art, it wouldn't be a problem.
Wacom Penabled, ofcourse.
The screen is small, 12.1-inch widescreen, but I guess that's pretty good for a tablet PC? Not sure. Anyways check it out. I was looking at it for myself but I can'tcome up with the money any time soon.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 5th, 2008 @ 07:13 PM Reply

More Tablet-y Goodness

I think I forgot to mention the best part of the Thinkpad tablets - they fold.

Yes. They swivel and fold from regular laptop to tablet.

Picture related.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 5th, 2008 @ 07:18 PM Reply

the ultimate solution ( yet ) is a fast ( still cheaper ) laptop + a small tablet... You'll end up paying half of what you would normally do for an as fast tablet PC.

If you really want to buy a tablet PC.. I suggest waiting just a few more months til' dell have released theirs... or wait til' asus / mac release their new ( yet in the works )

those will, and take my word for it.. Kickass!

If you feel the urge to get one RIGHT NOW.. get one from gateway.. but try them out first so you know if you can stand the grainyness...

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 5th, 2008 @ 07:19 PM Reply

Tablet Laptops::
bah... if only apple got their act together and made a tablet mac instead of this "air" junk.

i should start saving either way. :D

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 5th, 2008 @ 09:11 PM Reply

..::tablet PC's::..

Wow, that was a hell of a response, thanks for the suggestions. I'm still undecided but am emboldened by the positive comments.

..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.


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At 2/5/08 09:11 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.

It's sad that some people think that "modern" (which is a really broad term) art is easy. If you go to MOMA or the National Gallery in DC, you'll see some amazing stuff that most people would never think to do. Besides, people who say that don't understand the color theory and stuff that goes into modern art in order to make is asthetically pleasing.

Picture is from DC. My classmates didn't get how this was art.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 6th, 2008 @ 01:12 AM Reply

At 2/5/08 09:11 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote:
..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.

whatchootalking about.
There's no fractals in his drip droops.
I spent two years in a modern art program in college, with all the shebang: visit to New York museum, visit to tons of galleries, art history classes, abstract painting, photography, drawing, scuplture, video etc. and I can assert without the shadow of a doubt that "modern" art, i.e. 20th century stuff is absolutely nothing special no matter how many hippies have written complex idiot books about it.
Books which I have read and was bored shitless during.

The only thing the 20th century brought to the art world is an elevated sense of bullshitting that is only surpassed by shamans and lawyers.

That being said, there was a dude who made a "sculpture" with balls he stole from various stores. Awesome. Some were huge, like 2 feet in diameter.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 6th, 2008 @ 06:43 AM Reply

At 2/6/08 12:49 AM, fetusdoctor wrote: Flesh tones

Can anyone link me to a tutorial on how to shade fleshtones. I seem to get them too orange or too gray every time. Finding a base flesh tone is easy, it's the shading I have trouble with.

http://www.furiae.com/gallery/tutorials/
skintones.jpg

Her other tutorials are pretty good as well.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 6th, 2008 @ 06:55 AM Reply

heres an art dudes hope you like it and ya l know big teeths

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 6th, 2008 @ 10:46 AM Reply

At 2/6/08 06:55 AM, q13qew wrote: heres an art dudes hope you like it and ya l know big teeths

jesus, you really whoring out that pic, arent ya. how about an update to that pic

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 6th, 2008 @ 02:39 PM Reply

At 2/5/08 09:11 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.

That's not what I heard... My art teacher always said he just splashed on canvas in a way that represented his emotions... While drunk. Yes, he was often incredibly drunk while art-making.


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At 2/6/08 02:39 PM, MiddleFingerRings wrote:
That's not what I heard... My art teacher always said he just splashed on canvas in a way that represented his emotions... While drunk. Yes, he was often incredibly drunk while art-making.

Who isn't drunk when making art? Is there another way to do art?


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At 2/6/08 02:39 PM, MiddleFingerRings wrote:
At 2/5/08 09:11 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.
That's not what I heard... My art teacher always said he just splashed on canvas in a way that represented his emotions... While drunk. Yes, he was often incredibly drunk while art-making.

Sounds about right. One famous Pollock has some ashes from the cigarette he was smoking on the canvas, and another (possibly the same) has a cockroach trapped in the paint. So no, not laboring over the paintings, but there was work involved.

*hijack* Mondrian is probably a good example of modern art that took effort, knowledge of principles, and open-mindedness. He is now our prime example.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Feb. 6th, 2008 @ 05:37 PM Reply

At 2/6/08 02:39 PM, MiddleFingerRings wrote:
That's not what I heard... My art teacher always said he just splashed on canvas in a way that represented his emotions... While drunk. Yes, he was often incredibly drunk while art-making.

I visited Pollock's old house on an art trip many years ago, and I remember them saying something like that, just in a much more euphemistic way. I have learned to appreciate art more and more as I take more art history classes, but still can't get into his style, its just too crazy.

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At 2/6/08 01:12 AM, poxpower wrote:
whatchootalking about.
There's no fractals in his drip droops.

It's a theory, it/'s been pretty widely known for several years now. There is, I now find, quite a bit controversy surrounding it, not the least of which the fact that fractals were not yet discovered for a couple decades after Pollock. I had read about it some years ago when it was widely published in several magazines. Anyway the physicist who came up with the theory is named Richard Taylor, it's a real art story and something you could have looked into before shooting down completely.


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At 2/6/08 09:56 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote:
At 2/6/08 01:12 AM, poxpower wrote:
whatchootalking about.
There's no fractals in his drip droops.
Stuffs about fractals...

Generally, fractals tend to appear when you least suspect them, so the fact that random drip drops produce them isn't a suprise. I certainly don't think Pollock went around painting fractals into his art.


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