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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 20th, 2011 @ 02:56 PM Reply

At 12/19/11 04:18 PM, thies wrote: Woah.. Anybody know the artist/illustrator Denis Zilber? That's got to be the best digital art I've seen so far :0

Kind of demotivating

I wouldn't think of that as Demotivating he is a man of a few styles but I personally like Mechs drawn by Keith Thompson better.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 20th, 2011 @ 05:42 PM Reply

Happy Birthday Ash!

At 12/20/11 01:14 PM, Ashman wrote:
At 12/20/11 10:47 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Happy birthday to Ashman, even though I'm pretty sure he wont see these posts since he barely even lurks the forums anymore.
thanks to all

Well played xD


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 20th, 2011 @ 06:47 PM Reply

you guys rock, thanks a million and i will get on that asap so i can upload my art and give you guys my perspective on all this :D. i never expected this forum to be so nice and quick responding to my questions. I will be sure to come straight back here if i have any more problems.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 21st, 2011 @ 03:22 AM Reply

i Wish adobe illustrator wasn't so damn expensive! i like the tools it has to offer but the price is just what? mega demotivator into purchasing it, that price is like a total turn off! but then again i might have to get it eventually.

That is all.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 21st, 2011 @ 03:25 AM Reply

At 12/21/11 03:22 AM, Ramatsu wrote: i Wish adobe illustrator wasn't so damn expensive! i like the tools it has to offer but the price is just what? mega demotivator into purchasing it, that price is like a total turn off! but then again i might have to get it eventually.

That is all.

Honestly, who buys art programs anymore?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 21st, 2011 @ 03:58 AM Reply

people who want to support smaller companies that actually deserve the money for the not super inflated price that they charge.

companies like the fine people who made sai.
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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 21st, 2011 @ 05:06 AM Reply

At 12/21/11 03:25 AM, Kashi wrote: Honestly, who buys art programs anymore?

and people wonder why things like SOPA are happening...


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 21st, 2011 @ 05:13 AM Reply

At 12/21/11 05:06 AM, LegolaSS wrote:
At 12/21/11 03:25 AM, Kashi wrote: Honestly, who buys art programs anymore?
and people wonder why things like SOPA are happening...

Concerns of the bill.
Piracy< Censorship
There's nothing wrong with piracy unless someone else directly profits from the product imo. Piracy has actually helped me make my mind on buying lots of things.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 21st, 2011 @ 11:17 AM Reply

So last exam of the semester today, means I'll be home tonight.
Hopefully I can find some time tomorrow and upload a bunch of stuff for everyone who's been anxiously awaiting to see what I've done. And for those of you who haven't been.... cheese.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 02:03 AM Reply

anyone else having problems with the art portal?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 04:27 AM Reply

At 12/22/11 02:03 AM, Ramatsu wrote: anyone else having problems with the art portal?

yes, look a few posts ago, i had an issue (and still have it on them thumbnails) where the image has been taken from people in my scouts list rather then the art itself, possibly some sort of overwritten code?... im sure if i cleaned out my internet memory and tried again it might work :P...

also what problems are you having?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 09:26 AM Reply

At 12/21/11 05:13 AM, Captain-Carrion wrote: There's nothing wrong with piracy unless someone else directly profits from the product imo.

Pirated Photoshop + Commissions = Illegal?

Either way, I'm still not spending 500 dollars on that program.
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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 09:38 AM Reply

At 12/22/11 09:26 AM, Kashi wrote:
At 12/21/11 05:13 AM, Captain-Carrion wrote: There's nothing wrong with piracy unless someone else directly profits from the product imo.
Pirated Photoshop + Commissions = Illegal?

Pirated Photoshop = Illegal


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 09:44 AM Reply

If you steal food from a store, with plans to eat the food, not resell it
is it still illegal? yes
your intentions are not what matters, you're using something for free that would normally require a payment to have.
it's not even like it's the only decent option anymore, there are so many programs that do what photoshop does for drawing.
and does those things better than photoshop does.
because photoshop is a photo editing program, and always has been.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 03:14 PM Reply

At 12/22/11 09:38 AM, Luwano wrote:
At 12/22/11 09:26 AM, Kashi wrote:
At 12/21/11 05:13 AM, Captain-Carrion wrote: There's nothing wrong with piracy unless someone else directly profits from the product imo.
Pirated Photoshop + Commissions = Illegal?
Pirated Photoshop = Illegal

Pirated anything = Illegal.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 03:16 PM Reply

^^^^^^^what he says^^^^^^^

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 03:32 PM Reply

There's nothing wrong with piracy unless someone else directly profits from the product imo.
Pirated Photoshop + Commissions = Illegal?
Pirated Photoshop = Illegal
Pirated anything = Illegal.

Pirates = Illegal?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 03:46 PM Reply

At 12/22/11 09:44 AM, M-Vero wrote: because photoshop is a photo editing program, and always has been.

Yep, otherwise it'd be called paintshop or something, also buy sai boys and goils


Who is the hunter?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 04:04 PM Reply

Righto, if you steal overpriced photo editing programs from non profit websites your going to hell. Point taken.
I use MS Paint and paint.net, i dont like photoshop at all because theres just too much shit going on with the screen at once for my personal liking and it takes ten minutes to load on my janky ass computer. So theres not really a chance ill ever want to download it anyways.

Also, most people download portable now due to the fact keygens are 88% of the time bogus. And i dont think portable is illegal to download. Correct me if im wrong.

And just out of curiosity, who here actually bought adobe products. Im actually rather curious to see who makes 20 dollars a hour or has really badass parents. =p

Oh and that V

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 04:46 PM Reply

I don't recommend you starting this topic, Tre.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 04:51 PM Reply

Mail came today.
Thanks Nae!!!!!

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 05:07 PM Reply

At 12/22/11 04:46 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: I don't recommend you starting this topic, Tre.

Im sorry but im rather puzzled.
Im being polite, and painting "in my opinion" on my post as much as i can. You completely disregard how passive aggressive most of the elitist regs around here are to both me and anyone who doesnt carry a handbook of the rules. Yet im accused of spamming pictures and starting shit when i honestly just want to chat about something someone else brought up.

Im not mad, i just honestly want to know what i have done to get that much hostility thrown at me.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 05:15 PM Reply

At 12/22/11 05:07 PM, Captain-Carrion wrote: Im being polite, and painting "in my opinion" on my post as much as i can. You completely disregard how passive aggressive most of the elitist regs around here are to both me and anyone who doesnt carry a handbook of the rules. Yet im accused of spamming pictures and starting shit when i honestly just want to chat about something someone else brought up.

Yes, you're the victim because you're spamming pics, and taking about how pirating art programs is a-ok.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 05:16 PM Reply

@Lark - I slept in today, so I didn't really have a change to take any picture, hahaha. I might have a chance tomorrow to take some pictures, so I'll try to do that. If not, I'll be busy with Christmas stuff for the next few days so you'll have to wait till after then to see anything.

@Carrion - Read the forum rules.
"Discussing illegal activities - including, but not limited to: ROMs, cracks, warez and hacking."

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 05:40 PM Reply

Im not trying to preach how its a-ok to pirate art programs, i just personally dont see a point in spending 500 dollars on something that can be substituted wit something else thats completely free.
And i was trying to point out that adobe is more of a victim to their own price tags then they are to pirates.

If we cant discuss that stuff then you should have cut it off when it was brought up. Its rather nerve racking when you cut the line just as i out my two cents in.

My original point, SOPA isnt aimed at pirates. And "pirates" are rarely the main issue when it comes to companies loosing profit.
If someone needs to steal your product, perhaps they are a cheap ass or are desperate.
If thousands of people need to, your doing something wrong.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 07:04 PM Reply

No one NEEDS photoshop
there are plenty of alternatives
free alternatives, your argument is shit as all arguments for piracy are shit.
piracy is wrong and can't be defended no matter how innocent and needy most people on the internet make themselves out to be, because then it becomes a big enough problem where a bunch of people in their 70s try to fuck everything up on a global scale, because modern warfare 3 for free was totally worth that.
Do I condone piracy, no.
Do I think people who think they are entitled to things because reasons are fuckwits, hell yes.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 07:06 PM Reply

I don't recommend you continuing this topic, Dave.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 07:12 PM Reply

abandoning ship

and bandoning a new one, a much nicer one.
I christen thee the S.S. something else

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 07:14 PM Reply

yeah, what the turkey said...

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 22nd, 2011 @ 07:15 PM Reply

At 12/22/11 05:40 PM, Captain-Carrion wrote: My original point, SOPA isnt aimed at pirates. And "pirates" are rarely the main issue when it comes to companies loosing profit.

Oh, so that's a fact? Because piracy has had a huge impact on a lot of companies; if there was no piracy there'd be none of that copy protection bullshit in PC games everyone bitches about.

If someone needs to steal your product, perhaps they are a cheap ass or are desperate.
If thousands of people need to, your doing something wrong.

You can't download food or money so that desperation thing doesn't make any sense. They're just either not willing to pay for something since there is the option of Piracy. Or less likely they're cheap asses that just don't want to spend money on whatever it is they're pirating.
No body NEEDS to steal anything that is pirate-able.