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At 2/3/08 10:01 AM, ArthurGhostly wrote: Perhaps I was just hugged too much as a child.

perhaps
but most of the time is because probably mommy has pinned every scribble they have shitted out on the refrigerator, and they expect their peers to do the same.

At 2/3/08 11:05 AM, MindChamber wrote:

At 2/3/08 10:01 AM, ArthurGhostly wrote: Perhaps I was just hugged too much as a child.

perhaps
but most of the time is because probably mommy has pinned every scribble they have shitted out on the refrigerator, and they expect their peers to do the same.

Jesus mc , obviously not a lover of the children?

Your gonna make a great father.

At 2/3/08 11:16 AM, Darkaxl wrote:

At 2/3/08 11:05 AM, MindChamber wrote:

At 2/3/08 10:01 AM, ArthurGhostly wrote: Perhaps I was just hugged too much as a child.

perhaps
but most of the time is because probably mommy has pinned every scribble they have shitted out on the refrigerator, and they expect their peers to do the same.

Jesus mc , obviously not a lover of the children?

Your gonna make a great father.

actually my deal is I treat them and speak to them with the same level of respect I would one of my peers.
children, no fake when they see it, and coddling parents simply get themselves played in the long run...

I am having trouble drawing the wrinkles/dips (you know what I mean) in clothing, not so much I can't draw them, but rather, I have trouble imagining what they should look like. Any advice? I really don't want to have to look up pictures of people wearing clothes just to draw realistic wrinkles.

say, mindchamber, can i post a pic with a question here, since noone seems to see my question...
cuz every1 just scrolls down and places a rant about who knows what!!

so can i?
that way someone might see it and answer...

At 2/3/08 02:07 PM, PhoenixTails wrote: I am having trouble drawing the wrinkles/dips (you know what I mean) in clothing, not so much I can't draw them, but rather, I have trouble imagining what they should look like. Any advice? I really don't want to have to look up pictures of people wearing clothes just to draw realistic wrinkles.

well you can look at your own clothes.....stuff them and put them into a position.....or hang them off a chair and draw them out.....after awhile you'll get the hang of that.....take a picture of your self with baggy or tight pants.....and take note on where the folds show.....examine it and catch the details....or if you have siblings or something like that get them to stand in front of you and draw them.....either way you work with what you can get and got

At 2/3/08 02:07 PM, PhoenixTails wrote: I am having trouble drawing the wrinkles/dips (you know what I mean) in clothing, not so much I can't draw them, but rather, I have trouble imagining what they should look like. Any advice? I really don't want to have to look up pictures of people wearing clothes just to draw realistic wrinkles.

This might help: http://www.creativespotlite.com/drawing/
drapery-tutorial-1.htm

At 2/3/08 03:18 PM, mynamewontfitin wrote: This might help: http://www.creativespotlite.com/drawing/
drapery-tutorial-1.htm

That didn't load for me.
Don't know if the problems on my end.
Just thought I'd tell you.

dunno if i should post this in the art forum or what, but does anyone know anything about being/becoming a "Technical Artist" for videogames, or about anything in that field?

from the few days when i visited vicarious visions (they did gh3, i think), it looked like that is the kind of job i'd fit under... doing neither polywork nor physics engines, but working as the link between programmers and artists to make art apps and teach 3d tools to more traditional artists.

or if anyone knows a good place to look for future college education in either art or 3d programming?

At 2/3/08 02:10 PM, Gromuluss wrote: say, mindchamber, can i post a pic with a question here, since noone seems to see my question...
cuz every1 just scrolls down and places a rant about who knows what!!

so can i?
that way someone might see it and answer...

dont see why not

I'm in a stage where I can't seem to paint or draw anything, I have no inspiration because I keep hyping myself up about things SO DAMN much, that those things get boring and annoying to think about. It's happening right now with warhammer-I want to make a new dwarf army but I totally doubt I'll be able to muster up enough money before I hate it again :/

Does anyone know of any collabs or something, almost like the munnys, but more like ng sketchbook?
A while ago I saw something where you get a little wooden cube to paint and send it back in, But I think that was only for UK kids.

Halp?

:Motivational?:
i- Scribble
if you hang around the intermediate/advanced boards, there are some really nice people. just ask if ya want to start a collab with someone!

(this is... assuming you want to work computer art skillz)

Motivational?

i- Scribble
if you hang around the intermediate/advanced boards, there are some really nice people. just ask if ya want to start a collab with someone!

(this is... assuming you want to work computer art skillz)

okay I created one as HahaB or RedRobot
It's called newgrounds dot awesome or something

..::tablet PC's::..

Does anyone know anything about tablet PC's? I'm looking to get a new laptop and getting a tablet PC with Wacom Penabled technology seems like the smart thing to do. At the advice of a friend I'm looking at Lenovo right now, they don't seem to offer the same level of processing as other tablet PC's (HP, Toshiba) but the Lenovo has discreet graphics which, I'm told, is very important. If an of you has used one, how accurate was the stylus for drawing?

Abstract Art

Hey, I'd love to have a career where all I have to do is literally splash paint onto a canvas and get paid millions of dollars. Jackson Pollock comes to mind.

I'd still do the art I love to do on the side, but getting paid to make something that takes seconds to create seems like a great way to make money. Anyone have any ideas how to get into this career field?

At 2/5/08 02:02 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: Does anyone know anything about tablet PC's? I'm looking to get a new laptop and getting a tablet PC with Wacom Penabled technology seems like the smart thing to do. At the advice of a friend I'm looking at Lenovo right now, they don't seem to offer the same level of processing as other tablet PC's (HP, Toshiba) but the Lenovo has discreet graphics which, I'm told, is very important. If an of you has used one, how accurate was the stylus for drawing?

Awesome Tablet PCs

Honestly, some teachers at my school have the Thinkpad tablets, which seem to work as well for school stuff, so I'm sure graphics programs could run fine (our computers come with a shitload of CS3 stuff).

As for drawing, from the limited experience I've had with the Thinkpad tablets I can say that it improved my handwriting.

God, a tablet would be so convenient. Or a scanner.

At 2/5/08 02:02 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::tablet PC's::..

Does anyone know anything about tablet PC's?

I love mine.
Best investment I ever made.
Toshiba M200 which is very old, but it suits me fine.

Super-duper Tablet PC

Kraig, have you checked out the 2710p?

It's quality shit man, good price too.
2GB DDR2 memory, which can be upgraded easily.
It has a decent hdd, 100gigs of space. Not too shabby.
The processor isn't the best, but if you're only using it for art, it wouldn't be a problem.
Wacom Penabled, ofcourse.
The screen is small, 12.1-inch widescreen, but I guess that's pretty good for a tablet PC? Not sure. Anyways check it out. I was looking at it for myself but I can'tcome up with the money any time soon.

More Tablet-y Goodness

I think I forgot to mention the best part of the Thinkpad tablets - they fold.

Yes. They swivel and fold from regular laptop to tablet.

Picture related.

the ultimate solution ( yet ) is a fast ( still cheaper ) laptop + a small tablet... You'll end up paying half of what you would normally do for an as fast tablet PC.

If you really want to buy a tablet PC.. I suggest waiting just a few more months til' dell have released theirs... or wait til' asus / mac release their new ( yet in the works )

those will, and take my word for it.. Kickass!

If you feel the urge to get one RIGHT NOW.. get one from gateway.. but try them out first so you know if you can stand the grainyness...

Tablet Laptops::
bah... if only apple got their act together and made a tablet mac instead of this "air" junk.

i should start saving either way. :D

..::tablet PC's::..

Wow, that was a hell of a response, thanks for the suggestions. I'm still undecided but am emboldened by the positive comments.

..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.

At 2/5/08 09:11 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.

It's sad that some people think that "modern" (which is a really broad term) art is easy. If you go to MOMA or the National Gallery in DC, you'll see some amazing stuff that most people would never think to do. Besides, people who say that don't understand the color theory and stuff that goes into modern art in order to make is asthetically pleasing.

Picture is from DC. My classmates didn't get how this was art.

At 2/5/08 09:58 PM, AMP-d wrote: It's sad that some people think that "modern" (which is a really broad term) art is easy. If you go to MOMA or the National Gallery in DC, you'll see some amazing stuff that most people would never think to do. Besides, people who say that don't understand the color theory and stuff that goes into modern art in order to make is asthetically pleasing.

Picture is from DC. My classmates didn't get how this was art.

No if people find this kinda stuff pleasing to the eye, that's fine, everyone has different tastes. But every art gallery I've been to is flooded with this stuff. I don't see anything else, seriously. And things like this might appeal to IKEA marketing execs who want to use this stuff as a model for their furniture, but I don't see how this stuff relates to the general public at all. And I don't get why this is the only kind of things in the galleries. Nothing that delves into the world of even semi-realism seems to make it into those places.

Also, new topic

Flesh tones

Can anyone link me to a tutorial on how to shade fleshtones. I seem to get them too orange or too gray every time. Finding a base flesh tone is easy, it's the shading I have trouble with.

At 2/5/08 09:11 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote:

..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.

whatchootalking about.
There's no fractals in his drip droops.
I spent two years in a modern art program in college, with all the shebang: visit to New York museum, visit to tons of galleries, art history classes, abstract painting, photography, drawing, scuplture, video etc. and I can assert without the shadow of a doubt that "modern" art, i.e. 20th century stuff is absolutely nothing special no matter how many hippies have written complex idiot books about it.
Books which I have read and was bored shitless during.

The only thing the 20th century brought to the art world is an elevated sense of bullshitting that is only surpassed by shamans and lawyers.

That being said, there was a dude who made a "sculpture" with balls he stole from various stores. Awesome. Some were huge, like 2 feet in diameter.

At 2/6/08 12:49 AM, fetusdoctor wrote: Flesh tones

Can anyone link me to a tutorial on how to shade fleshtones. I seem to get them too orange or too gray every time. Finding a base flesh tone is easy, it's the shading I have trouble with.

http://www.furiae.com/gallery/tutorials/
skintones.jpg

Her other tutorials are pretty good as well.

heres an art dudes hope you like it and ya l know big teeths

At 2/6/08 06:55 AM, q13qew wrote: heres an art dudes hope you like it and ya l know big teeths

jesus, you really whoring out that pic, arent ya. how about an update to that pic

At 2/6/08 06:43 AM, mynamewontfitin wrote: http://www.furiae.com/gallery/tutorials/
skintones.jpg

Seems she doesn't like people hot-linking her stuff. Gave me a "Don't hot-link" picture. Had to clear my cache and use your other link to get it to work.

Her other tutorials are pretty good as well.

This link worked fine. This was exactly the kind of tutorial I was looking for. Thanks so much!

At 2/5/08 09:11 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::abstract art::..

Jackson Pollock was incredible. His paintings create complex mathematical fractals that other artists have failed to do. He really labored over his paintings and wasn't just splashing paint as it appears.

That's not what I heard... My art teacher always said he just splashed on canvas in a way that represented his emotions... While drunk. Yes, he was often incredibly drunk while art-making.