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Posted at: 6/22/09 01:06 PM

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At 6/22/09 12:51 PM, Fatchaos wrote: There I agree, it's either "0-3 this sucks" or "9-10 it's amazing" . . .
I'd like to hear some more... hm, thoughtful comments!

Only scouted users are able to review?
I mean, it's not like regular users have anything useful to say:
a. this is gorgeous!
b. I'D MOTORBOAT THOSE! I'D MOTORBOAT THE HELL OUT OF THOSE!
c. This sucks! voted 0!!! >:(

sadly, these are copy + pasted :/

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At 6/22/09 11:40 AM, ReNaeNae wrote:
lol! I think we're all getting a bit annoyed! I haven't even seen this many locked threads in General! lol

I feel sorry for you, ReNaeNae. Makes a lot more work for you. XD

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Has anyone else notice that there isn't a art portal? Click on the link it will say it doesn't exist.


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At 6/22/09 01:36 PM, Phoenix-TB wrote: Has anyone else notice that there isn't a art portal? Click on the link it will say it doesn't exist.

I think it is just taken down for some adjustments..


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It should be working now.

My princess peach was given a 3.5 last I checked :(.

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So... anyone up for starting a "Candidates for Unscouting" thread? Badly needed I think, but the forum does have a "no negativity" rule so I'm not going to be the one to do it.

Here are some people who I think... ahem... need to practice some more:

http://vibrotherapy.newgrounds.com/art/
http://leo5600.newgrounds.com/art/
http://xmarionettexincx.newgrounds.com/a rt/


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At 6/22/09 04:12 PM, Esn wrote: So... anyone up for starting a "Candidates for Unscouting" thread? Badly needed I think, but the forum does have a "no negativity" rule so I'm not going to be the one to do it.

Here are some people who I think... ahem... need to practice some more:

http://vibrotherapy.newgrounds.com/art/
http://leo5600.newgrounds.com/art/
http://xmarionettexincx.newgrounds.com/a rt/

That would explain why my pieces were pushed back to page 2 :).

I don't really mind personally. Obviously I'm a bit selfish and I'd love to have my work posted on the front page 24/7, but I think it's alright if people give an honest effort. If they really do want to improve, and if they really do want some constructive criticism, I don't see an issue with people posting stuff.

My two cents :).

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Posted at: 6/22/09 07:19 PM

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ffs.. really? there's more locked threads than non-locked.

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...and I'm now unscouted myself, because my scout Anvilpinata got unscouted (no idea why he did or who scouted him... his stuff's minimalistic but I wouldn't say it's actually bad).

You know, I think that this is a sort of problem that should probably be fixed somehow, particularly when there are long chains of scouts. I also scouted 3 people yesterday - not sure I can remember their usernames now, though.

Maybe there can be a special subsection in the "unscouted art" section specifically holding those people who were once scouted but got stripped of it because of something higher up.


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I think people should really reconsider what this whole scouting thing is about.

I see people boasting about how many people they scouted and others whining about how they lost their 56 scout count or whatever. That's hardly the idea, I think. Personally, I don't really plan on scouting anyone. But if I see a really good piece of art from someone that seems trustworthy, then I might scout him. In a month time I don't see myself having more than five scouts or so. That's how it should be, I think. Maybe abit more for the users that enjoy sifting through unscouted art, but definately not fifty scouts in mere days. That's ridiculous.

In any case, the entire attitude regarding scouting has to change, I think. It should become a true privilege to get scouted. Only good artists that have proven themselves should be scouted. There is a clear division in the Art Portal, scouted art and unscouted art. The unscouted art is for anyone, whether it's crappy drawings or work-in-progress stuff. Pretty much anything goes (given that it doesn't break the rules, ofcourse). Then there's the scouted art, which is made by scouted artists. Think of these artists as featured artists, selected for their skills and reputation. Needless to say, that should be a small amount of artists.

So try to think of it like that. Think of it as if there are two Art Portals, not one portal that you need to get permission for. I think this is what the scouting system was set out to do. Just my thoughts.

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At 6/22/09 08:29 PM, MeMB wrote: So try to think of it like that. Think of it as if there are two Art Portals, not one portal that you need to get permission for. I think this is what the scouting system was set out to do. Just my thoughts.

However, I cannot mark someone as a favourite artist, or favourite an artwork by them, if he/she is not scouted. So that alone makes that second portal no portal at all.


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At 6/22/09 08:52 PM, Esn wrote:
At 6/22/09 08:29 PM, MeMB wrote: So try to think of it like that. Think of it as if there are two Art Portals, not one portal that you need to get permission for. I think this is what the scouting system was set out to do. Just my thoughts.
However, I cannot mark someone as a favourite artist, or favourite an artwork by them, if he/she is not scouted. So that alone makes that second portal no portal at all.

Actually, if you want my thoughts, I think that a person should remain in your "favourites" whether they are scouted or not. If someone, by some fluke, gets unscouted, do they disappear from my favourites also? That would be really annoying and inconvenient, if true.


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At 6/22/09 08:55 PM, Esn wrote:
Actually, if you want my thoughts, I think that a person should remain in your "favourites" whether they are scouted or not. If someone, by some fluke, gets unscouted, do they disappear from my favourites also? That would be really annoying and inconvenient, if true.

Hmm, I didn't know that, about the favourite-system. Well, that would be a good modification. Being able to favourite unscouted art aswell.

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At 6/22/09 08:55 PM, Esn wrote:
However, I cannot mark someone as a favourite artist, or favourite an artwork by them, if he/she is not scouted. So that alone makes that second portal no portal at all.

If your favorite artist isn't scouted than shame on you for liking shitty art!

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At 6/22/09 09:02 PM, Captain-Ben wrote:
At 6/22/09 08:55 PM, Esn wrote:
However, I cannot mark someone as a favourite artist, or favourite an artwork by them, if he/she is not scouted. So that alone makes that second portal no portal at all.
If your favorite artist isn't scouted than shame on you for liking shitty art!

I didn't say favourite, I said *a* favourite. In other words, something I liked. Sometimes I see a really nice thing done by someone whose other art isn't good - because he spent a lot more time on that one thing, and it shows.


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He's right. Everyone's getting their panties in a bunch over being scouted.

HERE'S WHAT IT IS AND I WISH EVERYONE SAW IT THIS WAY:

SCOUTED ART:
An automatically updated archive of 'front page' worthy art.

UNSCOUTED ART:
The Art Portal

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At 6/22/09 11:00 PM, Starogre wrote: He's right. Everyone's getting their panties in a bunch over being scouted.

HERE'S WHAT IT IS AND I WISH EVERYONE SAW IT THIS WAY:

My thoughts exactly.

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not only have you got to look at the art that someone has made... but then judge them to see if..

A. its their art
B. they arnt going to go off on one and scout crap users
C. they arnt going to upload rubbish work

its very hard to judge... i personly wanted a collection of my favourt artists... *vortex00 and Bio-joe* which someone else had... but it seems he must have screwed up somewhere along the lines and now *poof* they were all unscouted... but it seems mindchamber and Captin-Ben got them them first :P...

oh well :3... really need to look at the artists as much as their art in this new system... but i agree... scouted stuff should be front page worthy... and not just (another stat) for people to boast about... its not about how many people you scout... its about the level of work and artistic passion gone into their master piece... i only have two at the moment... i cant see it going anywhere near double figures... most likey 5 will be the max... anway... its still in the early stages and there will most likey be changes... who knows?

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*submitted R-rated picture*

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I Can't Believe The Amount Of Art Theft Going On!!!

At first I thought "Ooooo art portal that's cool" somewhere for me to drop of yet more doodles but oh was I wrong. Most of it is just kids ripping off stuff from the net, especially in the 3D Art portal. Or better still yet another sonic drawing done with a half run out sharpie held in foot and *scanned* with use of a 2Mp cam-phone.

As for having categories lol stuff is just going in here there and everywhere, half assed pencil sketch in 3D and such.

The whole art thing was a poorly conceived idea the amount of moderation alone must be a nightmare (unless art theft and spamming is just going to be allowed). Much as it is nice to have somewhere to post, this sort of headache should be left to dA.

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At 6/23/09 04:33 AM, LegolaSS wrote: not only have you got to look at the art that someone has made... but then judge them to see if..

A. its their art
B. they arnt going to go off on one and scout crap users
C. they arnt going to upload rubbish work

I've tried to keep that in mind. I also have just two scouts right now.

It's very hard to tell if something is stolen, though... I've tried to rely on common sense and intuition along with Google searches, but it's hardly a surefire method.

The quality of art seems to be pretty high, still... I'd cautiously say that the system is working, but I don't know how much moderation was needed to obtain this result.

I was unscouted once and got back in, but now Chronamut, the person who scouted me the 2nd time, apparently got unscouted himself for the 2nd time, only it didn't completely unscout him (system bug), just stopped people from voting on his submissions. So it looks like I might AGAIN get unscouted and again have to rescout the people I scouted.


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At 6/23/09 08:56 AM, Esn wrote: It's very hard to tell if something is stolen, though... I've tried to rely on common sense and intuition along with Google searches, but it's hardly a surefire method.

www.tineye.com

Try that site.Its not surefire but its very usefull.


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At 6/23/09 08:58 AM, FullFistMaria wrote: Try that site.Its not surefire but its very usefull.

Wuah!... i always wondered if there was a site like this (i was hoping google would do something like it)... thats going to be a hell of alot easyer to catch out people with stolen images now... athough not 100% effective... but still... thanks FFM :3

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Glad to see my pieces aren't on that site and/or owned by anyone else.

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Didnt know if I should make a new topic.... I dicided to put this here first.

Just got a tablet, my very first one. It is a Wacom Bamboo Fun Black Medium. Loving the software that comes with it. I come to you senior flash (yes I posted this in the flash regs forum too) /art citizens to ask you for drawing tips with the tablet. Also, does anyone know how to customize the keys on the top in Flash (CS4 if you were wondering)? Ive tried to figure it out myself/googled it, no results. Any help would be very appreciated.


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At 6/23/09 02:35 PM, EnhancedPerspective wrote: Didnt know if I should make a new topic.... I dicided to put this here first.

Just got a tablet, my very first one. It is a Wacom Bamboo Fun Black Medium. Loving the software that comes with it. I come to you senior flash (yes I posted this in the flash regs forum too) /art citizens to ask you for drawing tips with the tablet. Also, does anyone know how to customize the keys on the top in Flash (CS4 if you were wondering)? Ive tried to figure it out myself/googled it, no results. Any help would be very appreciated.

I'm pretty sure you can just use the software to customize keys such as CTRL+Z or B or something, then that hotkey automatically translates to its respective in Flash, Photoshop, etc.

As far as tips go, try making quick brush strokes to get them smooth and good looking. It may take 10-20 tries per stroke to get perfect lines but thats what ctrl z is for!

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At 6/23/09 02:35 PM, EnhancedPerspective wrote: Didnt know if I should make a new topic.... I dicided to put this here first.

Just got a tablet, my very first one. It is a Wacom Bamboo Fun Black Medium. Loving the software that comes with it. I come to you senior flash (yes I posted this in the flash regs forum too) /art citizens to ask you for drawing tips with the tablet. Also, does anyone know how to customize the keys on the top in Flash (CS4 if you were wondering)? Ive tried to figure it out myself/googled it, no results. Any help would be very appreciated.

There should be a Wacom driver that you have to install. Part of that Wacom driver is a program which you can personalize your settings such as sensitivity, what the buttons do, etc. Try going to the start menu and looking for a "Wacom Tablet" folder.

As for tablet use, it is like learning how to use a pencil all over again. I would recommend drawing lines (horizontal and vertical) edge-to-edge until you can draw straight lines. Until then, you have not mastered controlling your pen. It just comes with a lot of practice and patience. Playing flash games or substituting normal mouse usage with your pen is a quick way to jump-start the learning on the sensitivity/how far you have to move your arm, etc.


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Thanks alot for the help. Figured out how to customize keys. Anyone else have any tips?


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At 6/23/09 03:35 PM, EnhancedPerspective wrote: Thanks alot for the help. Figured out how to customize keys. Anyone else have any tips?

Draw. Tips are useful when you learned everything about your tablet after practicing with it on your own.

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Yesterday I installed Internet Explorer 8, and since then I havent been able to acces the interwebs. I am still in the process of reading up on all thread progress till about 6 hours ago (when I finally got internet to work again (ie7)), after which I will have to catch up with all the posts of the past six hours (im a tab-maniac).
I just thought Id share this with you guys (extract from second page of art portal)

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