Be a Supporter!

Art Forum Lounge

  • 516,284 Views
  • 17,366 Replies
New Topic Respond to this Topic
DemocracyFTW
DemocracyFTW
  • Member since: Jun. 15, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 03
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 17th, 2010 @ 10:57 PM Reply

At 9/17/10 10:52 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: How about stick with NG because you'll actually get feedback on your work and it's not a bunch of circle-jerkers.

If you want people to say "OMG SO KAWAII FAV'D"
Go to deviantart. Stick at Ng because you'-- fuck it i quoted him anyway.


every morn I awake from the cavernous night
look at my pictures
look at pictures I look at

BBS Signature
Lintire
Lintire
  • Member since: Aug. 21, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 21
Blank Slate
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 17th, 2010 @ 11:25 PM Reply

Well, then it's decided - I'll stick to reviewing art on the Newgrounds, and to hell with the pageviews on dA - my Art Thread has almost hits anyway (see: 1500 or so to 2000, one start 6 months ago, the other 3 years).

...
I'll still dump my work there, though.

BlackmarketKraig
BlackmarketKraig
  • Member since: Dec. 8, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 32
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 17th, 2010 @ 11:31 PM Reply

@Lintire

I say go where you feel that you'll get the support you need to improve the most. I hate to join on the bandwagon dissing dA but the truth, imo, is that; yeah, feedback pretty much sucks there. NG isn't the best place for crit in the world, but it's loads better than dA. If the page view counter helps you improve more than some honest, sometimes brutal, feedback does, then by all means; jump ship to dA, but if you're like most artists; constructive criticism, while sometimes difficult to take, is better than page views and "AWESOME! POST SOME MOAR PLZ!!"


This sig is 100% effective protection from all hexes, curses, evil spirits and bad karma. Guaranteed.

BBS Signature
Ashman
Ashman
  • Member since: May. 12, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 26
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 12:08 AM Reply

DA is just impossible to get noticed, by the time youve posted something its been swept off the newest page by tides of crap, your lucky if you get 10 views per pic, i think most of them just stick every word in the dictionary into the keywords for that pic, then dump em into like 20 groups, but yeah here, easier to get seen, noticed and improve, plus the mods are much better, not busy running after millions of other random users, or banning shadman

Lintire
Lintire
  • Member since: Aug. 21, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 21
Blank Slate
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 02:28 AM Reply

The pageviews don't help me squat in a picture - it's just that, like the insufferable stat whore I am, to me they represent a stat, and they tend to jump whenever you post a review, so you put two and two together and it's not too long before you realize that you've put an entirely pitiful amount of reviews into one site and 5-10 a day on the other. That damned graph is very tempting to expand on through review posting. And you know that you're reviews are rare when the artists actually thank you for your words and continually note how little people actually post anything other then three or four words.

I prefer honest, brutal feedback anyday, just my inner stawhoreness acting up. NG will always be the better site, but really does need to display the art stats a bit more freely.
*shrugs*
I've made my choice, I'll be sticking all my reviews here, with the more active and community-involved mods, the harsher selection process for the art portal in the first place, and the bunch of uncensored dickgirls.

CloudEater
CloudEater
  • Member since: Oct. 17, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Blank Slate
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 02:34 AM Reply

At 9/17/10 04:07 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Foldy, foldy.
Gumby's musical take on my "How to make a ninja star" youtube tutorial.

This is fucking awesome! Good job Gumby :D

MangaFriend
MangaFriend
  • Member since: Nov. 14, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 06
Blank Slate
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 03:11 AM Reply

Hi. I were just wondering, that is anyone interested in my art?
I usually do pen/pencil drawings or some crappy computer art.
Sample of my work:

Art Forum Lounge


If my favourite things would be combined, It would be green apple games, with great art and music. In speaking of wich... going to candy apple land, brb :D
I has art too :3

bigjonny13
bigjonny13
  • Member since: Jul. 7, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 51
Voice Actor
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 03:25 AM Reply

At 9/18/10 03:11 AM, MangaFriend wrote: Hi. I were just wondering, that is anyone interested in my art?
I usually do pen/pencil drawings or some crappy computer art.
Sample of my work:

Personally, no, not at all.
It's bland anime done extremely bad.
If you want to showcase your art, make a personal art thread. You've already been told this.

Havegum
Havegum
  • Member since: Oct. 20, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 24
Melancholy
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 04:04 AM Reply

At 9/18/10 02:34 AM, CloudEater wrote:
At 9/17/10 04:07 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Foldy, foldy.
Gumby's musical take on my "How to make a ninja star" youtube tutorial.
This is fucking awesome! Good job Gumby :D

Thanks!
Also thank you jonny, for posting the link!


BBS Signature
J-qb
J-qb
  • Member since: Mar. 6, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 14
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 07:18 AM Reply

At 9/18/10 02:28 AM, Lintire wrote: That damned graph is very tempting to expand on through review posting. And you know that you're reviews are rare when the artists actually thank you for your words and continually note how little people actually post anything other then three or four words.

Why dont you just look at the views on your art every day/2day/week and make yourself your own graph? Quadruple the work, 1,35 times the fun!


NEVER LOOSE FAITH IN MANCUNT

BBS Signature
Luxembourg
Luxembourg
  • Member since: Oct. 17, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 07:36 AM Reply

I tried DeviantART. Once I saw that nobody gives any kind of real comments (everybody just fucking loves everybody else's work) and that your work stays on the first page for about 15 seconds, I said "fuck this."

Linty, it may be biased since we're Newgrounders saying this, but I think you're better off here. Stats are just numbers, after all. You'll end up with nothing really solid out of DA. Hell, I don't even think people who get huge on DA end up with anything solid other than a smug feeling because of the sheer number of compliments they receive with no real criticism.

God, I'm just saying what everybody else has said. I still want to join in on keeping Lintire here, though!

My Art Thread.
Eeureka! With an exclamation point!

BBS Signature
bigjonny13
bigjonny13
  • Member since: Jul. 7, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 51
Voice Actor
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 11:11 AM Reply

At 9/18/10 04:04 AM, Havegum wrote: Also thank you jonny, for posting the link!

Congrats on being able to post again.

Lintire
Lintire
  • Member since: Aug. 21, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 21
Blank Slate
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 11:55 AM Reply

At 9/18/10 07:18 AM, J-qb wrote: Why dont you just look at the views on your art every day/2day/week and make yourself your own graph? Quadruple the work, 1,35 times the fun!

I'm using NG Logs for my stats - they really do all the work, and I've even got a fancy graph, so it's 1,337 times the fun (it gives me a rate of change on b/p between days, the ultimate stat whoring tool) and really about 0.5 times the work. NG is just a better site to get noticed on, I suppose.

At 9/18/10 07:36 AM, Luxembourg wrote: I tried DeviantART. Once I saw that nobody gives any kind of real comments (everybody just fucking loves everybody else's work) and that your work stays on the first page for about 15 seconds, I said "fuck this."

Linty, it may be biased since we're Newgrounders saying this, but I think you're better off here. Stats are just numbers, after all. You'll end up with nothing really solid out of DA. Hell, I don't even think people who get huge on DA end up with anything solid other than a smug feeling because of the sheer number of compliments they receive with no real criticism.

God, I'm just saying what everybody else has said. I still want to join in on keeping Lintire here, though!

Yeah, I'm going to agree wholeheartedly with you there. Stat whoring on NG really does produce viable results - it's not just for bragging rights, the more you vote the better your vote is worth - and the better you get to influence a flash, audio or piece of art. You vote is worth more because you've spent more time voting, and it's that type of stat whoring that works - I enjoy seeing my vote being worth more, and I enjoy rating.

Your reward for people visiting you on dA is that people have visited you on dA. n = n. Whoop de do dah day, humbug-style. It really is a useless thing, and the fact that it's not decent and well-drawn art that gets the pageviews, but commenting a sheer amount of times and placing quantity over quality - it's that sort of thing that really does encourage shovelware.

Besides, I'd never leave you guys - you're all too important, Lux, I wouldn't defect for a graph. It was just where I was going to concentrate my efforts, and that has now pretty much been well and truly decided as NG.

At 9/18/10 11:11 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote:
At 9/18/10 04:04 AM, Havegum wrote: Also thank you jonny, for posting the link!
Congrats on being able to post again.

Congratulations on re-noticing his un-ban before I did, although he actually told everyone on stickam. What's it like, Gumby, I haven't been banned for so long.

As for this next bit, only a few people will actually get this: guys, I've been banned of both Runescape and Adventure Quest Worlds for trolling. I'm now on to Quake Live, but only to play the game, because, well, you can never really troll FPS players because they're so damn used to it.

bigjonny13
bigjonny13
  • Member since: Jul. 7, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 51
Voice Actor
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 12:16 PM Reply

At 9/18/10 11:55 AM, Lintire wrote: As for this next bit, only a few people will actually get this: guys, I've been banned of both Runescape and Adventure Quest Worlds for trolling. I'm now on to Quake Live, but only to play the game, because, well, you can never really troll FPS players because they're so damn used to it.

Oh Runescape. I used to play that game..... then I turned 15.
The only trolling you can do on FPS is mic spam and racism, but then you usually get server kicked.

Izzy-A
Izzy-A
  • Member since: Dec. 5, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 06
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 03:59 PM Reply

Is this the right place to ask about the art portal?

I just submitted an entry, but I can't edit my description. Is there a waiting time for when you can edit or am I doing something wrong?

J-qb
J-qb
  • Member since: Mar. 6, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 14
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 18th, 2010 @ 04:02 PM Reply

At 9/18/10 03:59 PM, Izzy-A wrote: Is this the right place to ask about the art portal?

I just submitted an entry, but I can't edit my description. Is there a waiting time for when you can edit or am I doing something wrong?

I have had the same problem; its apparently something they are working on, but dont know how to fix yet.


NEVER LOOSE FAITH IN MANCUNT

BBS Signature
bigjonny13
bigjonny13
  • Member since: Jul. 7, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 51
Voice Actor
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 19th, 2010 @ 02:53 PM Reply

ARRRRRRRRR!
Today be talk like a pirate day.
If ye be posting in the lounge, ye best be talking like a pirate, else ye walk the plank and be sent to Davey Jones locker!

DemocracyFTW
DemocracyFTW
  • Member since: Jun. 15, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 03
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 19th, 2010 @ 05:05 PM Reply

At 9/19/10 02:53 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: ARRRRRRRRR!
Today be talk like a pirate day.
If ye be posting in the lounge, ye best be talking like a pirate, else ye walk the plank and be sent to Davey Jones locker!

Yar! Have any of me fellow mates ever heard the- oh, fuck it. I tried at least. Anyway, cool story bout pacman.
dot dot dot...


every morn I awake from the cavernous night
look at my pictures
look at pictures I look at

BBS Signature
Spags
Spags
  • Member since: Oct. 29, 2007
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 19th, 2010 @ 05:07 PM Reply

I gots a question mateys!
I been doin' some drawin's on a big notepad, and i don't know how t' properly transfer it here cause me scanners too small and me camera be a phone, which is lame.
Will Kinkos scan a bigger picture (14x17) and be it expensive?
Who has experience with this?

(Happy talk like a pirate day)

ornery
ornery
  • Member since: Feb. 12, 2001
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Moderator
Level 54
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 20th, 2010 @ 11:21 AM Reply

At 9/19/10 05:07 PM, Spaghetti14 wrote: I gots a question mateys!
I been doin' some drawin's on a big notepad, and i don't know how t' properly transfer it here cause me scanners too small and me camera be a phone, which is lame.

My best advice is get a better camera.
And then listen to this tutorial when you do.

In other news I came across this guy recently, Barnaby Whitfield, and must say I am sufficiently uncomfortable.
(If you weren't bothered by clowns before, oh you will be)

bigjonny13
bigjonny13
  • Member since: Jul. 7, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 51
Voice Actor
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 20th, 2010 @ 11:49 AM Reply

At 9/20/10 11:21 AM, ornery wrote: In other news I came across this guy recently, Barnaby Whitfield, and must say I am sufficiently uncomfortable.
(If you weren't bothered by clowns before, oh you will be)

Why was the first thing I thought when I saw the background image "Ronald McDonald died for your sins"?

BlackmarketKraig
BlackmarketKraig
  • Member since: Dec. 8, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 32
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 20th, 2010 @ 07:14 PM Reply

At 9/20/10 11:49 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote:
Why was the first thing I thought when I saw the background image "Ronald McDonald died for your sins"?

Because he did, Jonny. Because he did.


This sig is 100% effective protection from all hexes, curses, evil spirits and bad karma. Guaranteed.

BBS Signature
Lintire
Lintire
  • Member since: Aug. 21, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 21
Blank Slate
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 20th, 2010 @ 09:29 PM Reply

At 9/20/10 11:21 AM, ornery wrote: In other news I came across this guy recently, Barnaby Whitfield, and must say I am sufficiently uncomfortable.
(If you weren't bothered by clowns before, oh you will be)

Wow, he really did a great job at making everything in that picture incredibly weird - it's funny, because the drapes match the carpet and whatnot. But overall, a very well done and creepy picture that's just sitting there on the front page.

Did he get fries with that?

Spags
Spags
  • Member since: Oct. 29, 2007
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 21st, 2010 @ 01:23 AM Reply

Doods!
So liek, I think one of the secrets to getting work as an artist is to just be proactive and email people.
I know i'm not the best artist by any means, but I think I'm decent, and also I enjoy doing it.
So I've been emailing different places and companies when I get the chance, sending them some of my work and seeing if they want me to do anything for them.
So far, I've gotten positive responses from Tigatu - a clothing company based out of Monroe, WA and The Basics, an awesome Australian band (The same one that Zekeyspaceylizard did a music video to in flash for "Like a Brother").

So I might be getting some cool experience in the field with these places soon, which should provide excitement, fun, and hopefully some moolah!

joe9320
joe9320
  • Member since: Aug. 20, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 08
Gamer
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 21st, 2010 @ 05:44 AM Reply

The rules say that I have to post an image if I'm making a new topic. How do I do that? I might ended up putting links instead! I wanted to put a picture on the topic.


I still like Riven Riven Riven Riven Riven Riven Riven Riven Riven Riven Riven Riven!

BBS Signature
Kuoke
Kuoke
  • Member since: May. 25, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 28
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 21st, 2010 @ 05:50 AM Reply

At 9/21/10 05:44 AM, joe9320 wrote: The rules say that I have to post an image if I'm making a new topic. How do I do that? I might ended up putting links instead! I wanted to put a picture on the topic.

Right under the text field you use to type up a post, there's an upload thing with a button that says "Browse...", click that.


BBS Signature
MangaFriend
MangaFriend
  • Member since: Nov. 14, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 06
Blank Slate
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 21st, 2010 @ 09:33 AM Reply

Um, hi again. I've only posted once this stupid picture of mine to here (or-where-was-it-again?).
People in NG, don't really like my art, so I'm trying to get rid of my manga-ish style.

But I still draw in manga-ish style -.- I can't get rid of it!
I want to show you people my new computer art.

This is just a little weird flying creature... I have a good imagination, but my drawing skills aren't so great.

[Is this Art Forum Lounge right place for showing your art? Oh well, I'm still going to post this here this time... but tell me if this isn't the right place for that.]

Art Forum Lounge


If my favourite things would be combined, It would be green apple games, with great art and music. In speaking of wich... going to candy apple land, brb :D
I has art too :3

AJtheRipper
AJtheRipper
  • Member since: Aug. 25, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Blank Slate
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 21st, 2010 @ 10:15 AM Reply

Quick question - On Photoshop, is it best to shade with the burn tool or just a darker tone of whatever color you are shading? Thanks -

J-qb
J-qb
  • Member since: Mar. 6, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 14
Artist
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 21st, 2010 @ 10:19 AM Reply

At 9/21/10 10:15 AM, AJtheRipper wrote: Quick question - On Photoshop, is it best to shade with the burn tool or just a darker tone of whatever color you are shading? Thanks -

darker tool; You should try to keep way from any other tools than the brush and the eraser (if youre doing digital painting that is)


NEVER LOOSE FAITH IN MANCUNT

BBS Signature
bigjonny13
bigjonny13
  • Member since: Jul. 7, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 51
Voice Actor
Response to Art Forum Lounge Sep. 21st, 2010 @ 10:20 AM Reply

At 9/21/10 09:33 AM, MangaFriend wrote: ignorance

We've told you this already multiple times. If you want to show off your art, make yourself a personal art thread, and then you can post whatever you want in it.

Do you understand yet?