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At 5/24/09 08:16 PM, JKG1069 wrote:
wow i fucking knew this would happen. i PM'ed egoraptor about my idea for this anime and wanted him to make it with me, then he said no and came out with girlchan in paradise. i fucking knew when i wanted to make mine everyone would say i stole it from egoraptor. this is fucked up.

and NO mine will actually be well written, not just countless stereotype after stereotype.. and will actually have a plot

Well.. No need to get so angry.. It quite hard to guess that it was your idea.. Have you ever made a cartoon?


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At 5/24/09 08:22 PM, Lundsfryd wrote:
At 5/24/09 08:16 PM, JKG1069 wrote:
wow i fucking knew this would happen. i PM'ed egoraptor about my idea for this anime and wanted him to make it with me, then he said no and came out with girlchan in paradise. i fucking knew when i wanted to make mine everyone would say i stole it from egoraptor. this is fucked up.

and NO mine will actually be well written, not just countless stereotype after stereotype.. and will actually have a plot
Well.. No need to get so angry.. It quite hard to guess that it was your idea.. Have you ever made a cartoon?

sorry, its just that im pissed about that with egoraptor.. if anyone doesnt believe me just have a mod check me and his message history, youll see my pms to him with the idea for this.. he changed it up a bit cause mine was bout an foreign exchanged student in japan and it woulda done some stereotypes like in girlchan in paradise.

sorry for being angry haha but its frustrating that he did that.

ive never actaully finished a flash, right now im teaching myself how to draw really well with like awesome shading.

but i wrote the script for the cartoon, and i can easily get voice actors and all the SFX needed for it. i actually almost got the audio made cause this was originally a school project but i dropped out cause i was sick too much and wasnt going to graduate, so i never finished this project and never actually HIRED any voice actors that auditioned for it.

like, i know i can make this cartoon. i just need to brush up my animation and drawing skills, then ill get the audio needed and animate this myself over like a 1 year span. then ill send it to every major network president and some talent scouts and stuff and hopefully it will get picked up.

but yeah, egoraptor didnt steal this idea, he just came out with something JUST like it right after i told him about it. otherwise i woulda pmed tom fulp about it by now.

but yeah, i really believe this could take off. provided i make it EXACTLY the way i want it, which should be really easy since im animating, doing the voices, and directing everything.

really the only point i was trying to ask here was if theres anyway i could learn to draw faster.. cause on my own, im going at such a sluggish slow pace and id like to get some books or take some classes or something on it.

and once i learn to draw better, ill buy a wacom and learn to animate what i draw lol.


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i just want to make it clear im not trying to get egoraptor in trouble or anything im just saying, he worked on girlchan in paradise RIGHT after i told him about my idea. cause i really loved girlchan in paradise and id like to see more but i dont know if him and tomamoto can keep that going for long with the style of humor they used for that cause that will get old reaaallly quick


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Egoraptor wouldn't get in trouble.

He's done parody of games, and successfully, for years. You're asking us all to believe he'd be incapable of writing a funny anime parody, which I just don't buy. Also, the idea to a parody of anime stereotypes itself isn't like... a super impressive thing to think up. It's logical to parody something that is popular, that's how you get an audience.

Sorry you feel betrayed or like you got the short end of the stick, but you really have nothing to show us, and Ego does.

I also have 110% faith in whatever Tomamoto writes.

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Sorry for posting something that isn't my work, but I just had to share this with someone who can appriciate it. Go visit their website
- this is some of the most original strips I have seen in a very long time..

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At 5/24/09 09:46 PM, ImpendingRiot wrote: Egoraptor wouldn't get in trouble.

He's done parody of games, and successfully, for years. You're asking us all to believe he'd be incapable of writing a funny anime parody, which I just don't buy. Also, the idea to a parody of anime stereotypes itself isn't like... a super impressive thing to think up. It's logical to parody something that is popular, that's how you get an audience.

Sorry you feel betrayed or like you got the short end of the stick, but you really have nothing to show us, and Ego does.

I also have 110% faith in whatever Tomamoto writes.

wow way to put words in my mouth i was saying i enjoyed the parody but it just came out right after i approached him with the SAME exact idea. i never said he is incapable of writing anything funny, but lately he has made shit. and while we're on the topic i really dont think he could write anything BUt parodies. thats all he has.

and why the fuck would i show you guys anything ive made when i just talked about all that with egoraptor? like id let it happen again. but i have scripts, storyboards, and audio dating back to 2006 and voice acting projects dating back to last year for it. NOT TO MENTION the pms between me and egoraptor about trying to recruit him to write it with me and voice act with me.

and the fucking POINT i was making wasnt that he STOLE anything from me, or that my idea is UNIQUE. im saying, im pissed that he released girlchan in paradise right after i told him my idea, cause NOW fucks like YOU will say "OH RIPOFF OF EGORAPTOR." which yes, pisses me the fuck off.

Now let me get this fucking STRAIGHT so you dont misunderstand me again. He didnt steal anything important like characters, plot, jokes, etc. I just dont want people to say its a ripoff of egoraptor. thats all im asking.


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haha okay for christ sake.. can someone please answer my question now, we got so off topic..

are there any good books or tutorials on the web to help become a better drawer?


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I personally haven't seen anything funny from Egoraptor, it just never seemed funny to me. Maybe a bit at the beginning, but when his stuff started getting extremely overrated, I stoped liking he's work, I feel like he's sold himself. He's promised a lot of time to do something not parody related, but same has Kirbopher so I don't know what to think.


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At 5/24/09 10:46 PM, Zyphonee wrote: I personally haven't seen anything funny from Egoraptor, it just never seemed funny to me. Maybe a bit at the beginning, but when his stuff started getting extremely overrated, I stoped liking he's work, I feel like he's sold himself. He's promised a lot of time to do something not parody related, but same has Kirbopher so I don't know what to think.

i know right? i mean its all the same humor now, like almost the exact same jokes EVERY time. just with a twist to make it fit wahtever hes parodying. i LOVE original flashes that dont get the credit and respect they deserve. like one of my favorites is "these pancakes are tiny" thats just old fashioned humor with no parody-ing

thats one thing i promised myself id do. id make an anime parody cartoon. BUT NOT.. make fun of ANY anime, cause old fashioned naruto or bleach jokes just get old. im talking about writing a good storyline and making it as fucked up as possible, some south park styled humor, and my goal is to make even people that watch it from the beginnning, just lost as hell. within reason of course.

cause i laugh my ass off everytime i watched the azn channel saturday nights and just get thrown into an anime 100 episodes in and have NOOOO idea whats going on.. i want people to experience anime the way i do, and i think i can do that with my cartoon.


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by the way, checked my pms.

the date i sent him the invitation for mine was 9/17/08.

the date girl-chan in paradise came out was 2/21/09.


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Alright haha, look Padre, I, the Fuck, wasn't saying you stole anything from Egoraptor. I'm saying that you shouldn't insinuate that he took your idea. Which your paranoia about giving us this "evidence" is showing you think that happened.

Anyways, lets zip up our flys now. You need to get thicker skin, you cant get bent out of shape about this stuff. We've all gotten mad before about similar stuff, the trick is not to get crippled by it. Just make what you want to make, if it has merits then people will recognize that and give you the credit for it. If you make something truly good, it doesn't matter whats been made before.

Look how many successful Awesome parodies there are. I'm not saying you're parodying or mimicking what Egos done I'm just saying don't blame others for you not being able to create something, Ego, Girlchan, or the people that would accusing you of ripping him off aren't stopping you, you're stopping you.

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At 5/24/09 11:26 PM, ImpendingRiot wrote: Alright haha, look Padre, I, the Fuck, wasn't saying you stole anything from Egoraptor. I'm saying that you shouldn't insinuate that he took your idea. Which your paranoia about giving us this "evidence" is showing you think that happened.

Anyways, lets zip up our flys now. You need to get thicker skin, you cant get bent out of shape about this stuff. We've all gotten mad before about similar stuff, the trick is not to get crippled by it. Just make what you want to make, if it has merits then people will recognize that and give you the credit for it. If you make something truly good, it doesn't matter whats been made before.

Look how many successful Awesome parodies there are. I'm not saying you're parodying or mimicking what Egos done I'm just saying don't blame others for you not being able to create something, Ego, Girlchan, or the people that would accusing you of ripping him off aren't stopping you, you're stopping you.

okay thank you, i honestly wasnt pissed at egoraptor for girlchan i was like "FUCK!! he beat me to it!!" when it came out. its just when people say my work is a ripoff of it before theyve even see it, ya pisses me off. ill try not to let it get to me in the future until they say it about a finished product. annnd yeah i realize its my fault, thats why i posted in here in the first place. cause i cant draw very well and i want to start animating my scripts im writing.

so.. one more time lol anybody know like a good store to go to about that? would barnes and noble have anything that would help me or like.. should i keep looking up tutorials on youtube?

cause i havent started like hardcore drawing until now and it takes yeaaaars to hone your abilities. im just looking for some help to get me started really cause thats the hardest part, getting started. im willing to put in the hours and practice.. cause hell, i spent literally all day yesterday on the computer looking at drawing tutorials and learning about shading and character structure and whatnot.

am i even in the right forum to ask this? lol


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haha im sorry man there really was no reason for me to get that worked up over it, you hadnt even seen the script, just saying what it sounded like it could be. and you had the balls to still be helpful after i said the things i said, and im sorry. ill be more mature from now on haha


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I currently use photoshop/flash for most of my drawings, just a question, is Autodesk Sketchbook Pro worth me getting or should I stick with photoshop/flash

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What is a good sketchpad that I could buy?

I got around $500 to spend.

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At 5/30/09 01:50 AM, CalvinGodly wrote: What is a good sketchpad that I could buy?
I got around $500 to spend.

$500 on a sketchpad?! 0_0
I'd spend a tenth of that MAX on a sketch pad.

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lol, do you mean a tablet? Try Wacom. I have the Graphire at home and the Bamboo at work. No complaints.

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thinking about getting a cintiq and a desktop so I can draw on my couch. That would be so awesome.

then I can hook up my tv to my computer and play games on my couch too. That would be awesomer

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At 5/29/09 12:49 PM, Viridis wrote: I currently use photoshop/flash for most of my drawings, just a question, is Autodesk Sketchbook Pro worth me getting or should I stick with photoshop/flash

You can do anything in photoshop that you would want to do with sketchbook pro. For general illustration, i have completely abandoned using flash as a drawing tool.

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At 5/30/09 04:55 PM, Neolight wrote:
At 5/29/09 12:49 PM, Viridis wrote: I currently use photoshop/flash for most of my drawings, just a question, is Autodesk Sketchbook Pro worth me getting or should I stick with photoshop/flash
You can do anything in photoshop that you would want to do with sketchbook pro. For general illustration, i have completely abandoned using flash as a drawing tool.

Ive been using a program called ArtRage a lot as well. Which is my MAIN program.

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At 5/30/09 04:55 PM, Neolight wrote: You can do anything in photoshop that you would want to do with sketchbook pro. For general illustration, i have completely abandoned using flash as a drawing tool.

IDK, Flash can be usefull in some instances... It really depends on your style, If you are going for a smooth, clean style flash might be the way to go. otherwise photoshop is mostly best.


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Jonas made a thread in General: Open Discussion - The BBS

If anyone has anything to add, please do. If you have any Art Forum specific stuff to address, feel free to post it here.

Discuss!

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Friend of mine just linked me ZudaComics (ownded by DC), I think it's worth a browse and be interesting.

Summary: a monthly competition for amateur comic makers to make comics. :)

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What happened to reanimator? His userpage used to have tons of flash movies, a blog and a user picture. Now only 3 flash movies are left.

Did he delete all that stuff, did people think he was stealing the movies?

I am frightened and confused.


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At 6/1/09 04:27 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Friend of mine just linked me ZudaComics (ownded by DC), I think it's worth a browse and be interesting.

Summary: a monthly competition for amateur comic makers to make comics. :)

Jeez TOAS, way to suck away like an hour and a half of my time! Some of the artists on there are absolutely phenomenal, really great stuff. If I ever get to a level where I can produce something quality, I have a pretty cool story I have always thought of turning into a little comic, so its awesome to see a site designed for amateur comic makers, excellent find!


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Does anyone know a thread like NG characters fanart or a specific thread for dad 'n me?, It'll be really glade if someone could help me out.

thanks


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At 6/2/09 01:52 AM, ThinXIII wrote: Does anyone know a thread like NG characters fanart or a specific thread for dad 'n me?, It'll be really glade if someone could help me out.

thanks

I know of a Madness combat fan art thread and Castle crahsers fan art thread. Don't know about a specific thread for Dad'n'me (though I've seen quite a few pictures floating around) nor about a generic NG fan art thread.


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At 6/1/09 05:15 PM, idiot-monarch wrote: What happened to reanimator?

Why do you care?

Tits, the lot of yas.


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At 6/2/09 06:27 AM, JoeTheToucan wrote:
At 6/1/09 05:15 PM, idiot-monarch wrote: What happened to reanimator?
Why do you care?

That guy was fucking awesome, reminds me of 0000987 but a bit better...


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At 6/2/09 01:52 AM, ThinXIII wrote: Does anyone know a thread like NG characters fanart or a specific thread for dad 'n me

You could post it in theNewgrounds Character Art Thread, and start another thread where art goes to die.

At 6/1/09 05:15 PM, idiot-monarch wrote: What happened to reanimator?
I am frightened and confused. Plus I look a bit rapey.

Stalker!

At 6/1/09 07:47 PM, AwesomeSaurus wrote: Jeez TOAS, way to suck away like an hour and a half of my time!

Haha! Glad you like, mate.

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