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True the idea of god came from man.

But how powerful is idea.

Can ideas manifest in physical form, if enough people believe in the idea?

All those thoughts, they have to go somewhere...

At 3/11/08 12:22 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Can ideas manifest in physical form, if enough people believe in the idea?

All those thoughts, they have to go somewhere...

You are honestly proposing that god could have came into existence as a result of people thinking he does?

You're kidding, right?

At 3/10/08 07:43 PM, mikairu wrote: I am catholic and i KNOW that my God is not evil. I will straiten things out here. Those who beleive in him will go to heaven and so will those that dont. Those that have done much sining the world are the ones going to hell. As long as you are a good person and have good mroals you have a place in heaven. So once again i tell you that my God is not evil. You may think diffrently but i dont really care

it's really exciting that your god is not evil, but there's only one contradiction in your god - IT DOESNT EXIST, just like all of the other ones :]

At 3/10/08 07:43 PM, mikairu wrote: I am catholic and i KNOW that my God is not evil. I will straiten things out here. Those who beleive in him will go to heaven and so will those that dont. Those that have done much sining the world are the ones going to hell. As long as you are a good person and have good mroals you have a place in heaven. So once again i tell you that my God is not evil. You may think diffrently but i dont really care

I still see a problem here, while I like your god's policy (let the good guys in) i hate his hell policy. This is why : Eternity never ends, and even the most heinous, foulest, ridiculous crime is nothing by comparison to eternity in pain- nothing at all- could make that the punishment and it be justice.

At 3/10/08 07:43 PM, mikairu wrote: You may think diffrently but i dont really care

*cough* old testiment *cough*

At 3/11/08 04:58 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
You are honestly proposing that god could have came into existence as a result of people thinking he does?

You're kidding, right?

It's just an idea.

I've got lots of them.

I mean brainwaves do actually exist. It's not likely. But you never know. We could all be robots.

At 3/11/08 10:05 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 3/11/08 04:58 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
You are honestly proposing that god could have came into existence as a result of people thinking he does?

You're kidding, right?

It's just an idea.

Okay, let's put theory into practice.

I'm thinking about a......FERRARI.........no Ferrari

Okay, how about..............JESSICA ALBA................no Jessica Alba.

Dude, seriously. Things can't just exist by us thinking it not to mention that it's totally contradictor to God creating everything.

At 3/11/08 10:05 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 3/11/08 04:58 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
You are honestly proposing that god could have came into existence as a result of people thinking he does?

You're kidding, right?

It's just an idea.

I've got lots of them.

I mean brainwaves do actually exist. It's not likely. But you never know. We could all be robots.

We can never know something completely. We might always find outself to be in error in the future. But that doesn't mean that every single crazy idea is a valid option to reality.

At 3/11/08 10:14 AM, Brick-top wrote:
Dude, seriously. Things can't just exist by us thinking it not to mention that it's totally contradictor to God creating everything.

Yeah. Because I meant it like that.

God created everything. What makes you say that?

Oh yeah...religion. Which I have tried to tell you guys has nothing to do with the actual concept of god. They just use the concept for their personal benefit.

At 3/11/08 10:16 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 3/11/08 10:14 AM, Brick-top wrote:
Dude, seriously. Things can't just exist by us thinking it not to mention that it's totally contradictor to God creating everything.

Yeah. Because I meant it like that.

God created everything. What makes you say that?

Oh yeah...religion. Which I have tried to tell you guys has nothing to do with the actual concept of god. They just use the concept for their personal benefit.

LMAO. Share more of this wisdom of yours! I want to hear more!

Religion has nothing to do with the actual concept of God. Now, why hadn't I thought about that before?

At 3/11/08 10:18 AM, Drakim wrote:
Religion has nothing to do with the actual concept of God. Now, why hadn't I thought about that before?

Well. I just mean that my idea of god isn't some brainwashing bullshit...

God is life. God is the universe. God is energy. Get it?

At 3/10/08 07:37 AM, Togukawa wrote: Pure awesome.

Epic win. And sails about 3 miles over everyone's head.

At 3/11/08 10:16 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 3/11/08 10:14 AM, Brick-top wrote:
Dude, seriously. Things can't just exist by us thinking it not to mention that it's totally contradictor to God creating everything.

Yeah. Because I meant it like that.

Concieve the concept of God - there's a God

Concieve the concept of a Ferrari - there's a ferrari

Oh wait, no ferrari.

God created everything. What makes you say that?

uhhh the bible you jackass. Genesis chapter 1.

Oh yeah...religion. Which I have tried to tell you guys has nothing to do with the actual concept of god. They just use the concept for their personal benefit.

You're a buddhist aren't you?

At 3/11/08 09:55 AM, Brick-top wrote:

At 3/10/08 07:43 PM, mikairu wrote: You may think diffrently but i dont really care

*cough* old testiment *cough*

Catholics follow the teachings of the New Testament and Jesus.

At 3/11/08 02:41 PM, jitterman wrote:

At 3/11/08 09:55 AM, Brick-top wrote:

At 3/10/08 07:43 PM, mikairu wrote: You may think diffrently but i dont really care

*cough* old testiment *cough*

Catholics follow the teachings of the New Testament and Jesus.

Yes, but the other guy said that God isn't evil. A God who isn't evil wouldn't have allowed these things to happen in the first place.

AND I've seen in the past that theists follow rules from the old testiment too ;)

At 3/11/08 02:41 PM, jitterman wrote: Catholics follow the teachings of the New Testament and Jesus.

So you don't believe anything in the old testament?

At 3/11/08 12:51 PM, Brick-top wrote:
You're a buddhist aren't you?

Not really.

I just don't make a habit of doubting ideas.

No matter how ridiculous they are.

At 3/11/08 09:59 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 3/11/08 12:51 PM, Brick-top wrote:

No matter how ridiculous they are.

Isn't calling an idea "ridiculous" a huge sign of doubt?

At 3/11/08 09:59 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: I just don't make a habit of doubting ideas.

Ohhh in that case let's see what happens when you jump out of a car at 150mph. Since you're so relaxed about doubt you can go first

At 3/11/08 10:09 PM, poxpower wrote:.

Isn't calling an idea "ridiculous" a huge sign of doubt?

There are different classifications of ideas.

Ridiculous was just a way of saying the idea is likely.

Anyways I use the word god in the way that it's just whatever the universe is. Whatever it means. The meaning of life. Whatever you want to call it. Scientific or not. It's all the same to me.

At 3/11/08 10:16 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:
Ridiculous was just a way of saying the idea is likely.

isn't extremely likely*

Brick-top: I still believe in the laws of physics : |

At 3/11/08 10:18 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Brick-top: I still believe in the laws of physics : |

Okay, prayer healing doesn't reqire proof.

We'll shoot you in the leg and you can pray to be healed. How about that?

At 3/11/08 10:22 PM, Brick-top wrote:
We'll shoot you in the leg and you can pray to be healed. How about that?

Who said I believed in prayer.

I certainly didn't say that.

And besides you could test that without shooting someone in the leg.

At 3/11/08 04:58 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

You are honestly proposing that god could have came into existence as a result of people thinking he does?

You're kidding, right?

No. I'm not. Its called thought. We do it all the time. You honestly don't believe that a Jewish Zombie that had magical powers came and saved us from sin, then floated up to the sky 3 days later? You're fucking brilliant. It makes so much sense now.

/sarcasm.

Christ being a prophet?

He probably had a way with words but not much more.

The bible is like, "the popular religion." They had good people selling it. A big record deal if that's what you want to call it.

That's why it's so popular today.

Myself I find Christianity a little over fantasized.

At 3/11/08 10:16 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:

Ridiculous was just a way of saying the idea is likely.

Uh that still means you doubt it.

Unless you're the worst mathematician on earth.

The math doubts it.

I don't really.

I believe in the possibility of every possibility that could possibly ever be possible. Beyond science or god.

I don't really caaaare if you understand or not.

At 3/12/08 01:59 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: The math doubts it.

I don't really.

I believe in the possibility of every possibility that could possibly ever be possible. Beyond science or god.

I don't really caaaare if you understand or not.

So, you totally disregard evidence and logic? It doesn't matter than one possibility has all of reality pointing towards it, while other possibilities are the result of wish thinking?

At 3/12/08 01:59 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:

I don't really caaaare if you understand or not.

I'm pretty sure what you're saying is that you basically made up your mind about what you believe a long time ago and that you refuse to change it no matter what.

Yeah that makes sense.

At 3/11/08 10:59 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 3/11/08 10:22 PM, Brick-top wrote:
We'll shoot you in the leg and you can pray to be healed. How about that?

Who said I believed in prayer.

You did when you said you're open to every possibility.

I certainly didn't say that.

And besides you could test that without shooting someone in the leg.

Well I have access to a rifle, you have a leg, let's do this thing.