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At 10/26/09 03:03 PM, Sweeper128 wrote: Ahem... LLLLLLLLOOOOOLLLLLLLWWWWWWAAAAAATTTTTTTT ?

Leave the inside jokes, um... inside. They don't make sense in reality.

What the fuck?

At 10/26/09 03:03 PM, Sweeper128 wrote: Ahem... LLLLLLLLOOOOOLLLLLLLWWWWWWAAAAAATTTTTTTT ?

Leave the inside jokes, um... inside. They don't make sense in reality.

This isn't reality. This is the internet.

At 10/26/09 10:49 AM, mrty wrote: The dumbest thing I've ever seen in the game, was when I ubered a heavy, but he kept eating sandwiches and doing absolutely nothing else... All that effort to heal teammates for nothing... Fucking idiot.

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM

Oh noes, you got me!

At 10/26/09 05:26 PM, Greenfrost6 wrote: This isn't reality. This is the internet.

AND INTERNETZ IZ SRS BUSINESS

Anyway, yesterday SMS and I had some fun on 2fort as Engies... we managed to sneak into the enemy intel room and set up in there. If we'd had had a smart team, they wouldn't have ignored me and taken my teleporter. Instead they ignored it for the most part, and we only got 3 caps from it. :/

At 10/26/09 05:43 PM, ParadoxVoid wrote:

At 10/26/09 05:26 PM, Greenfrost6 wrote: This isn't reality. This is the internet.

AND INTERNETZ IZ SRS BUSINESS

:0

Nah, just got a bit tired of the nonsense coming from those two, but it could be the lack of leisure time to play TF2 is bugging me.

At 10/26/09 05:47 PM, Sweeper128 wrote: Nah, just got a bit tired of the nonsense coming from those two, but it could be the lack of leisure time to play TF2 is bugging me.

If you got tired of the nonsense, don't fucking read the posts :C

Alright, I do accept the challenge. I go to find them.

I want the Soldier unlock to be a shotgun that crits against people in the air, and does half damage to people on the ground.

Lol, I didn't realize the links were of Valve staff.

At 10/26/09 05:43 PM, ParadoxVoid wrote:

At 10/26/09 05:26 PM, Greenfrost6 wrote: This isn't reality. This is the internet.

AND INTERNETZ IZ SRS BUSINESS

Anyway, yesterday SMS and I had some fun on 2fort as Engies... we managed to sneak into the enemy intel room and set up in there. If we'd had had a smart team, they wouldn't have ignored me and taken my teleporter. Instead they ignored it for the most part, and we only got 3 caps from it. :/

Shame I wasn't there, whenever I'm scout I spend all the time trying to get the intelligence (which is actually quite easy if tried heaps and heaps, if they aren't good with placing sentries and don't have many good classes you can easily slip past...)

At 10/26/09 05:43 PM, ParadoxVoid wrote: Anyway, yesterday SMS and I had some fun on 2fort as Engies... we managed to sneak into the enemy intel room and set up in there. If we'd had had a smart team, they wouldn't have ignored me and taken my teleporter. Instead they ignored it for the most part, and we only got 3 caps from it. :/

And that was a SEVERE pain in the ass.

At 10/27/09 03:58 AM, SapphireLight wrote: I want the Soldier unlock to be a shotgun that crits against people in the air, and does half damage to people on the ground.

I dunno, it will be scout rape, but as for the other classes, pretty useless...

At 10/27/09 10:36 AM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 10/27/09 03:58 AM, SapphireLight wrote: I want the Soldier unlock to be a shotgun that crits against people in the air, and does half damage to people on the ground.

I dunno, it will be scout rape, but as for the other classes, pretty useless...

Unless it gets crits while he's in the air, rocket jump, then shotty. But it's usually better to open with your rocket launcher, because it'll probably do more damage.

Well, the unlock for soldier can be tricky, so this is what I think:

A bomb launcher for the RPG that does bigger damage a wider splash damage but reloads slowly has 10 bombs and throws them at artilery style.

For shotgun, 2 unlockables(like the sniper and the spy update):
1st. A machine gun with average damage(it is the only weapon tf2 has not)
2st. A flag that makes the soldier move 30% slower but gives him +20 health and all crits while being under invuln.

At 10/27/09 02:00 PM, TiberiumCrystalKutu wrote: Well, the unlock for soldier can be tricky, so this is what I think:

A bomb launcher for the RPG that does bigger damage a wider splash damage but reloads slowly has 10 bombs and throws them at artilery style.

AH-em!
Remeber?The demo is the indirect explosive class here!If we give the soldier artillery weapons then the demo becomes useless :/

For shotgun, 2 unlockables(like the sniper and the spy update):
1st. A machine gun with average damage(it is the only weapon tf2 has not)

Yes, but it's very unoriginal, unlike most secondary replacements VALVe makes.

2st. A flag that makes the soldier move 30% slower but gives him +20 health and all crits while being under invuln.

Uhm..lolwut?You mean a flag that can be planted on the ground once in a life, and while he's near it he gets bonuses?Leave the all crits, that's way too OP.Let's make it 20% more crit chance and 20% more health, but 50% less speed.That sounds intresting, dunno if it's practical though.

At 10/27/09 05:05 PM, HeavyTank wrote: Uhm..lolwut?You mean a flag that can be planted on the ground once in a life, and while he's near it he gets bonuses?

He meant the soldier actually uses it as a melee weapon. At least that's what i gathered from it. Though i agree with what you're saying with maybe raise the crit chance, rather then just all crits when invuln. Being slow as it is already, that's a big waste, unless some asshat runs at you trying to kill you while ubered :/

At 10/27/09 05:05 PM, HeavyTank wrote: Uhm..lolwut?

Actually, I was thinking he meant it as an equippable item like the Razorback. And it would be incredibly unbalanced if it was, since every time you get Ubered, it would be like a free Kritzkrieg as well. And of course, this then makes the Kritzkrieg useless on the 'flag-waving soldiers'.

I'm actually thinking that an alternative for the rocket launcher may be something that focuses more on direct hits than splash damage. Perhaps certain rockets that deal minicrits for direct hits, while being weaker overall, and having a much smaller range for splash damage (or none at all). The main updates seem to be attempting to change the way that classes are played, or give classes an advantage over classes they normally would be raped by, and this would definitely do it.

I always disagreed with the razorback, it didn't really add any more skills to the sniper, in a way though at least he's sacrificing one of his more closer-ranged weapons, and they had the jarate too.

The mini-crit idea isn't too bad Paradox. I reckon it'd have to be really direct though, like when they introduced the ambassador you need to have a direct head shot.

My shotgun would be ridiculous. Shoot a rocket at a foe and pop them in the air, whip out the shotgun and blast 'em into nothing.

i would never play anything else again

At 10/28/09 01:38 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: Actually, I was thinking he meant it as an equippable item like the Razorback. And it would be incredibly unbalanced if it was, since every time you get Ubered, it would be like a free Kritzkrieg as well. And of course, this then makes the Kritzkrieg useless on the 'flag-waving soldiers'

No, l don't think so, that would be ridiculously overpowered...and unfair.

I'm actually thinking that an alternative for the rocket launcher may be something that focuses more on direct hits than splash damage. Perhaps certain rockets that deal minicrits for direct hits, while being weaker overall, and having a much smaller range for splash damage (or none at all). The main updates seem to be attempting to change the way that classes are played, or give classes an advantage over classes they normally would be raped by, and this would definitely do it.

Yes, maybe a rocket with *no* splash damage whatsoever that:
Is twice as fast as the normal rocket
Deals 30% more damage and if you hit the head you get a minicrit.
Has a bigger "pushing force" than the normal rocket

This way skilled soldiers can use this to shoot at the enemy's feet and then destroy the enemy while they're in the air, but can't get easy splash kills anymore..seems fair enough.

At 10/28/09 02:18 AM, SapphireLight wrote: My shotgun would be ridiculous. Shoot a rocket at a foe and pop them in the air, whip out the shotgun and blast 'em into nothing.

i would never play anything else again

You could get a good pyro-playing friend to use compression blast while you pulverize them with the shotgun I guess...but like said, all the updates are made to interest players and add a new aspect to players.

To the soldier they'll probably add a completely different weapon with different mechanics..not grenades though, Valve already cleared that they wouldn't have grenades in the game, besides the demo already has the pipe bombs which are close enough.

I wish I could post this to sirtom93's thread at the time...

YES

also:
I've always wanted one of the domination taunts for the pyro for him to mumble, "...you mad?"
it fits flawlessly.

At 10/28/09 07:28 AM, SapphireLight wrote: YES

also:
I've always wanted one of the domination taunts for the pyro for him to mumble, "...you mad?"
it fits flawlessly.

pyros are annoying enough without that

At 10/28/09 04:45 AM, HeavyTank wrote: This way skilled soldiers can use this to shoot at the enemy's feet and then destroy the enemy while they're in the air, but can't get easy splash kills anymore..seems fair enough.

A rocket launcher with no splash wouldn't make much sense, since an explosion is bound to cause splash damage.. though I think I'd definitely use it for the extra attack and speed.

I actually meant a flag like the razorback but anyway, I got another idea.

The rocket with mini crits is good idea.

I thought of a suit instead of the shotgun that gives the soldier or +20 health or +1 health regen. What do you think of it?

At 10/28/09 12:49 PM, TiberiumCrystalKutu wrote: I thought of a suit instead of the shotgun that gives the soldier or +20 health or +1 health regen. What do you think of it?

More towards my own idea of a flack jacket that reduces explosion damage, but it disintegrates after say 200 damage? It would make rocket jumping far easier and well worth it.

Also +1 hat.

At 10/28/09 07:19 AM, mrty wrote: I wish I could post this to sirtom93's thread at the time...

In contrast....
I bet on Meet the Pyro, he/she will remove his mask and it will just end right there so we will never know.

At 10/28/09 06:39 PM, Hellraiser wrote: In contrast....
I bet on Meet the Pyro, he/she will remove his mask and it will just end right there so we will never know.

Too much detail. It makes her look anorexic.

Anyone got tips on fighting soldiers as a heavy? It's so hard...they have a really decent amount of health and always stand far away from you shooting all over your big frame.

I can take one of them on alone even if they keep hiding, but when their whole team starts joining in it gets hard.