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At 10/9/09 01:58 AM, HeavyTank wrote:

Well, in Badwater, I build on the roof immediately after building a teleporter closer to the first point. Mainly because I don't know where an effective spot would be there.

WHy the hell do you do that?Advance with your team and build your sg close to another engie's..trust me, your team (or you) are not helped in anyway by doing this...

Actually, since only a rather badly unbalanced pair of teams can keep the kart from moving to the first cap, it's best to go roof. On the first stage of Badwater, there are dozens of points SGs can be outflanked, outranged, or simply knocked down by ubers like bowling pins.

Once there is a fortress on the roof, however (one doesn't work. Need at least two), the enemy team simply cannot advance. It's difficult even to assault the roof, unless the roof guardians are complete idiots, because of the number of sentries, as well as numerous dispensers and teleporters constantly bringing reinforcements to fight the advancing enemy on the flank.

I've seen many games won this way. Almost all of them, in fact.

i finally bought TF2 downloading now, 7% complete

At 10/9/09 03:56 PM, HeavyTank wrote: OH MAH GAWD!
The best skill video I've EVER seen, and l'm not easily impressed when it comes to TF2..usually l say stuff like "yeah, he's good"..but this one made me shout "holy fucking shit!what the fuck!fuck!how the fuck?" out loud...
Also, the video editing is really professionally made and the music is good enough.
It's from an Aussie team, so Paradox, you gotta be proud :D
Here it is, in all its glory

Awesome...I still have a bad feeling they've been playing a bit too much TF2...either way though, I liked the sniping they did!

At 10/10/09 01:19 AM, FurryDemon wrote: Awesome...I still have a bad feeling they've been playing a bit too much TF2...either way though, I liked the sniping they did!

Lol, yeah, they have been playing too much indeed...especially the sniper and that soldier guy...also, that team-airshot (the one before the scene before the credits) was just out of this world..

At 10/9/09 03:56 PM, HeavyTank wrote: Here it is, in all its glory

Wow, they're really good. The Soldier and Sniper were especially amazing, though the Scout was really good as well, as well as the Demo. Seriously, if the Snipers in pubs were even 1/2 as good as that one, they'd be a much large threat, that's for sure.

At 10/10/09 02:45 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote:

Seriously, if the Snipers in pubs were even 1/2 as good as that one, they'd be a much large threat, that's for sure.

Yeah, they wouldn't get killed by scouts taunting behind them with the sandman for the simple reason that the sniper in the vid was actually running around instead of being on one spot during the whole match...

At 10/10/09 02:45 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: Wow, they're really good. The Soldier and Sniper were especially amazing, though the Scout was really good as well, as well as the Demo. Seriously, if the Snipers in pubs were even 1/2 as good as that one, they'd be a much large threat, that's for sure.

I play with at least 3 very good snipers, almost impossible to kill and are great fun to play with. Untill you get to the point were you are being killed by them every 10 seconds.

At 10/10/09 04:10 AM, Simple wrote: I play with at least 3 very good snipers, almost impossible to kill and are great fun to play with. Untill you get to the point were you are being killed by them every 10 seconds.

There's nothing worse than seeing a far off sniper aimed at you, paired with an in vain attempt to duck behind cover.

I'm absolutely horrible as sniper, I don't understand how people do it. It's hard enough to get a body shot for me.

Say, may a join this crew as well? I got TF2 on, well all platforms, lol. I am good on the console versions..but I really suck on the PC version. I guess the whole controller thing. But yeah, hopefully I will get better. My Steam account is "DeadchickNG" if anyone wants to add me. Hopefully I will play with some of you, and well not humiliate myself too much >_<

At 10/10/09 06:40 AM, Deadchick wrote: Say, may a join this crew as well? I got TF2 on, well all platforms, lol. I am good on the console versions..but I really suck on the PC version. I guess the whole controller thing. But yeah, hopefully I will get better. My Steam account is "DeadchickNG" if anyone wants to add me. Hopefully I will play with some of you, and well not humiliate myself too much >_<

You're not serious right?Why in the name of the backstabbed scout did you buy the game for the consoles AND the PC?And how can you be better at the console version?Wtf....

At 10/10/09 06:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote:

At 10/10/09 04:10 AM, Simple wrote: I play with at least 3 very good snipers, almost impossible to kill and are great fun to play with. Untill you get to the point were you are being killed by them every 10 seconds.

There's nothing worse than seeing a far off sniper aimed at you, paired with an in vain attempt to duck behind cover.

I'm absolutely horrible as sniper, I don't understand how people do it. It's hard enough to get a body shot for me.

Its a certain combination of running out from cover, scoping, aiming straight for the head, firing, getting your ass back in cover or at the least just un-scope.
The one rule of good sniping. Don't ever charge completely unless you're aiming for a dangerous heavy.
Most classes can be taken down in a single headshot.
The classes which can't (Soldiers and such) aim for a headshot, then finish with a body shot, or another headshot if you've got good aim.

The only time you should take down a heavy is if they are being a pain in the ass to the team, spy's being unable to take him down and a medic helping him.

If it's more down to your issues with aiming, you just need to practise really.

At 10/10/09 06:40 AM, Deadchick wrote: Say, may a join this crew as well? I got TF2 on, well all platforms, lol. I am good on the console versions..but I really suck on the PC version. I guess the whole controller thing. But yeah, hopefully I will get better. My Steam account is "DeadchickNG" if anyone wants to add me. Hopefully I will play with some of you, and well not humiliate myself too much >_<

It's just a matter of getting used to the different control style. I'd go on hiatus from the consoles for a week or so and force yourself to get a hang of a keyboard. The computer game just gives the characters so much more life.

________

Anyone ever play on No Heroes? They have a bunch of servers with great map rotations, and I just broke 100k points yesterday.

At 10/10/09 06:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote:

At 10/10/09 04:10 AM, Simple wrote: I play with at least 3 very good snipers, almost impossible to kill and are great fun to play with. Untill you get to the point were you are being killed by them every 10 seconds.

There's nothing worse than seeing a far off sniper aimed at you, paired with an in vain attempt to duck behind cover.

I'm absolutely horrible as sniper, I don't understand how people do it. It's hard enough to get a body shot for me.

I dunno, I guess it's sort of hard to tell if someone is naturally a bad sniper, or they just haven't practiced enough. I used to be terrible so I practiced against my brother and I did really good.

I have on and off times with all classes, with snipers recently I made three headshots in a row, two on snipers another on an engineer with a pistol running past.

And to Deadchick: Yep, I'd probably practice on PC for awhile.

Also TFS, is your name [Dutch] TFS on TF2? Think I saw you on a server somewhere...

At 10/10/09 06:40 AM, Deadchick wrote: I got TF2 on, well all platforms, lol. I am good on the console versions..but I really suck on the PC version.

It's a matter of the control scheme. Also, no doubt the auto-assisted aim helps a bit. I'd just practice with a Mouse and Keyboard setup for a week or two though - it's so much better when you need to turn around, or change direction quickly, than a gamepad. And you get all the extra content that the consoles miss out on as well ^_^

Of course, if you feel you must, you could be one of those odd people that connect up a gamepad. But then you really will get owned badly :P

At 10/10/09 08:22 AM, FurryDemon wrote: I dunno, I guess it's sort of hard to tell if someone is naturally a bad sniper, or they just haven't practiced enough. I used to be terrible so I practiced against my brother and I did really good.

Sniper is probably my most erratic class to be honest. One memorable time I managed to get 16 points in one life, all but 2 kills being headshots, which I was extremely proud of. Most of the time, I'm a subpar Sniper at best, downright bad at worst.

At 10/10/09 08:24 AM, FurryDemon wrote: Also TFS, is your name [Dutch] TFS on TF2? Think I saw you on a server somewhere...

TSF*

Pfft, gamepads, for some reason I've had the worst of luck trying to use those things.

I keep it simple, my steam name is Thosesneakyfrench.

Unfortunately, that was not me that you had the honor of playing with.

At 10/10/09 07:21 AM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 10/10/09 06:40 AM, Deadchick wrote:

You're not serious right?Why in the name of the backstabbed scout did you buy the game for the consoles AND the PC?And how can you be better at the console version?Wtf....

I am dead serious man. It's a long story really. I first had the PS3 version which is the worse out of all of them, but I didn't have a choice since I only had a PS3 back then. After my brother got the xbox360 he decided to buy it for the 360 since I didn't let him play the PS3, which was a little better. Then after that, I upgraded my pc to 2gb RAM and a better video card, also had like ten bucks laying around, so I got TF2 on pc. See? looong story : P

Anyway, yeah I am just not used to the keyboard and mouse is all. Pressing the number keys then clicking the left button to take out another weapon will be a little hard to get used to.

At 10/9/09 05:09 PM, Kurofelis wrote: Actually, since only a rather badly unbalanced pair of teams can keep the kart from moving to the first cap, it's best to go roof. On the first stage of Badwater, there are dozens of points SGs can be outflanked, outranged, or simply knocked down by ubers like bowling pins.

Once there is a fortress on the roof, however (one doesn't work. Need at least two), the enemy team simply cannot advance. It's difficult even to assault the roof, unless the roof guardians are complete idiots, because of the number of sentries, as well as numerous dispensers and teleporters constantly bringing reinforcements to fight the advancing enemy on the flank.

I've seen many games won this way. Almost all of them, in fact.

Exactly. The first point is way too out in the open. I've seen it held, just not very often. The roof is a much better place to build, and if you have a few people guarding the engies, there's no way you can lose.

However, the instant the engie is left alone and they charge in with an uber... game over, pal.

Even on the server I play on, where engies are buffed to hell and back, it's hard to hold a point by yourself. Said buffs are being able to build two dispensers, quick build, and costs to build a sentry is 125, and 75 for everything else.

"OMG DATS SO OVERPOWERED!!!"
It's not.

Engineers have so many counters it's not funny, and the reason is because a sentry nest with some team members defending it is unbeatable. A sentry nest with an engie alone... a single soldier/pyro/heavy/demo/spy/any ubered class can take it out. Not to mention a sentry is a priority target.

...Engineer need an update. =(

At 10/10/09 06:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: There's nothing worse than seeing a far off sniper aimed at you, paired with an in vain attempt to duck behind cover.

Do what I do. Stop. Duck. After they fire, THEN you jump into cover. It usually works.

At 10/10/09 03:12 PM, Deadchick wrote: I am dead serious man.

Name pun ftw.

It's a long story really. I first had the PS3 version which is the worse out of all of them, but I didn't have a choice since I only had a PS3 back then. After my brother got the xbox360 he decided to buy it for the 360 since I didn't let him play the PS3, which was a little better. Then after that, I upgraded my pc to 2gb RAM and a better video card, also had like ten bucks laying around, so I got TF2 on pc. See? looong story : P

It's worth getting good at on the PC. You can download skins, mods, maps, etc. None of these can be got on the 360, and not too sure about it on the PS3. But the updates are also a great reason to get good.

Anyway, yeah I am just not used to the keyboard and mouse is all. Pressing the number keys then clicking the left button to take out another weapon will be a little hard to get used to.

Buy a new mouse. You can just use the scroll wheel, and it's a hell of a lot easier once you get used to it. By the way, 'Q' lets you instantly switch to the weapon you had last, and it's insanely useful. Set the weapon, and if you run out of ammo, hit q. Or if you're a spy, backstab, hit q, and zap the sentry.

WELCOME TO THE CREW! :)

At 10/10/09 06:52 PM, Toiletpaper wrote:

By the way, 'Q' lets you instantly switch to the weapon you had last, and it's insanely useful. Set the weapon, and if you run out of ammo, hit q. Or if you're a spy, backstab, hit q, and zap the sentry.

Never thought of that. Would make things a lot easier!

B reloads the spy's disguise, so you can change their disguise weapon quickly, that's what I can remember.

At 10/10/09 07:04 PM, Sweeper128 wrote: B reloads the spy's disguise, so you can change their disguise weapon quickly, that's what I can remember.

That too, but you wouldn't want that except at the beginning of a match. Using the same disguise would ultimately lead to dying. Switch it up.

I still love the scroll-wheel :3

Who gets the reference?

At 10/10/09 03:12 PM, Deadchick wrote: Anyway, yeah I am just not used to the keyboard and mouse is all. Pressing the number keys then clicking the left button to take out another weapon will be a little hard to get used to.

If it's the left-clicking that's screwing with you, under advanced keyboard options you can enable quick weapon-switch, which means you won't need to click again to select the weapon. Alternatively, get a scroll-wheel mouse like has been suggested, though I'd recommend against using quick-weapon switch on that, since I tend to always scroll too many lines, so I go to the wrong weapon when I need to switch quickly. Nothing worse than bringing out the Shovel when you need the Shotgun.

At 10/10/09 07:04 PM, Sweeper128 wrote: B reloads the spy's disguise, so you can change their disguise weapon quickly, that's what I can remember.

Ah, so that's what it is! I've been wondering what key did that for absolutely ages, and couldn't for the life of me remember.

At 10/10/09 11:17 PM, ParadoxVoid wrote:

If it's the left-clicking that's screwing with you, under advanced keyboard options you can enable quick weapon-switch, which means you won't need to click again to select the weapon. Alternatively, get a scroll-wheel mouse like has been suggested, though I'd recommend against using quick-weapon switch on that, since I tend to always scroll too many lines, so I go to the wrong weapon when I need to switch quickly. Nothing worse than bringing out the Shovel when you need the Shotgun.

Yeah, the fact that you have to click to select a weapon sucks, l changed it to auto-switch centuries ago...
Well, Paradox, if you srcoll too quickly you might want to change your mouse...mine has a "special" scroll wheel.Normally it srcolls and it makes a "click" every time you scroll it down or up by 1..uh...unit, but it you press it it becomes a free scrolling mouse, meaning that you can spin it as fast as you want.

WHY HASN'T ANYBODY TOLD ME ABOUT THIS?!

*changes TF2 settings*

So I bought TF2 a year ago.

And I just started playing.

It's god damn fun.

Spy / Medic my favorite classes so far.

I have the same sort of scroller that HeavyTank has.
Also I don't get this 'spy cloak reload' thing, what does it do?

At 10/11/09 04:07 AM, FurryDemon wrote: I have the same sort of scroller that HeavyTank has.

Hmm. Well, it's not a huge issue for me, since I've gotten used to it so much that I just click as soon as I hear the 'click' of the scroll wheel anyway.

Also I don't get this 'spy cloak reload' thing, what does it do?

Well, you can change your disguised weapon. It's a bit weird to see an Engy hanging around buildings without his wrench out for the most part. Or if you see a Medic without his Medigun out, even around teammates etc.

Disguising as Medic is generally a bad idea since the enemy team expects you to heal them when you got your medigun out and they get suspicious if you have the saw or Syringe Gun. Scoot is bad idea for an obvious reason.