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At 7/8/09 05:39 AM, HeavyTank wrote: What you need is good commnication...get a mic and yell "go, go, go"!

Sometimes even good communication doesn't help though. Some people are just morons. Also, I have a mic on my laptop... >_>

At 7/8/09 07:12 PM, blackcat2000 wrote: Yeah, that's what I was thinking... I'm not sure the time matters so much as the lag that would occue, I would've thought...
I think I'd probably get like 350+ ping if i played on an American server.

Are you from Australia as well? If so, then this club probably has more Aussies in it than any other (including the Aussie club... >_>).

And RKThrilla, what's with NG and 13 year old, as in, why them in particular?
No I'm not 13, just curious =|

It' just because 13 year old users are the epitome of bad etiquette, basically. If you look on basically any forum (in particular General on NG) if you find a post with bad spelling, grammar, and asking stupid questions/putting forth stupid opinions, excluding the chance that it's an intentional troll (which also happen to quite often be 13 year olds, or older users with the maturity of one), most likely the age of the user in question will be 13, or the surefire giveaway "Name/Gender: n/a, male" which often indicates that we have an underage user on our hands.

Yes, I know... too many commas, but I can't be bothered rewriting it =/

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At 7/8/09 08:17 PM, ParadoxVoid wrote:
At 7/8/09 05:39 AM, HeavyTank wrote: What you need is good commnication...get a mic and yell "go, go, go"!

I use my mic =D
Although... I micspam occasionally... when I'm not playing seriously...

Are you from Australia as well? If so, then this club probably has more Aussies in it than any other (including the Aussie club... >_>).

Nah, Singapore... Close enough to Australia though, I guess, or more precisely, far away from the US.

It' just because 13 year old users are the epitome of bad etiquette, basically.

Ah, makes sense.
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At 7/8/09 07:12 PM, blackcat2000 wrote:
And RKThrilla, what's with NG and 13 year old, as in, why them in particular?
No I'm not 13, just curious =|

Minimum officially allowed age.

I won a game pretty much single-handedly yesterday. I had helped finish the assault on A in Gravelpit, B was already taken, so I rocket jumped up to C after hammering the mini room with rockets (nailed the sentry) to find the engie trying to rebuild, with a medic, uber ready. I blasted both of them and destroyed the dispenser.

However, the medic ubered the engie before I could blow them apart with a ground-aimed rocket. I dropped off the side onto the stairs, and the engie ran around aimlessly, confused as hell.

I ran up there just as the engie's uber began to die out, and I finished what I had started. One of our spies was up on the point, but he went away about three seconds later. I don't know why.

It was probably because of the engie-some other class (probably sniper) team coming up to stop my amazing cap, which was now about three fourths finished. I denied them with two rockets, and nobody disturbed me after that.

It doesn't sound so amazing in text, but consider that taht's two people at once, twice, one set with an uber and overheal, and I say that's a lesson that you'd better have more than an engie on C when everything else is lost.

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Anyone know a good server that has custom maps, 24 slots(maybe good idea to have 24 slots), no hlstats(not sure), and sv_pure 0(custom sounds, skins, gui)?

Indeed, the Steam forums, you hear basically "ZOMG TEH PYRO IS OP" or that the pyro is female because they said so. They claim that Valve confirmed it, but Valve was fucking with their minds, but they are too dense to figure it out, or that "TEH DEMO IZ OP CUZ I DIE FRM THM AND CUZ I SAIS SO." Hell, they even think the Medic needs more nerfs(no more passive healing from blut, no crits for ubersaw), I'm surprised they didn't ask to make it so that the Medigun doesn't give crits and damages you while you are ubering.

Personally, the whole pyro gender is Valve fucking with everybody's minds. They love to do that. We don't really complain here because we know most classes are "kinda" balanced.

So, what do you think the next class update and Meet the class video will be? I am starting to think the Pyro will have the next video since well, they might want to end the fucking rumor once and for all(or keep it going).


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At 7/8/09 11:41 PM, ForcedDj wrote:
So, what do you think the next class update and Meet the class video will be? I am starting to think the Pyro will have the next video since well, they might want to end the fucking rumor once and for all(or keep it going).

Demoman better get an update next :)

Also, I heard that they are doing meet the pyro last because they are having so much fun with it..

Meet the medic will be next.

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At 7/9/09 12:18 AM, Sanity-of-Insanity wrote:
At 7/8/09 11:41 PM, ForcedDj wrote:
So, what do you think the next class update and Meet the class video will be? I am starting to think the Pyro will have the next video since well, they might want to end the fucking rumor once and for all(or keep it going).
Demoman better get an update next :)

Also, I heard that they are doing meet the pyro last because they are having so much fun with it..

Meet the medic will be next.

Isnt the voice actor for the Medic not able to work with them right now because he is voice acting for another game? Sure they are having fun, but I am starting to think the last 2 are going to be done in reverse update order(Pyro, Medic). Plus, if they have an option to choose the gender of your class, then that might mean Meet The Pyro will be next(won't happen).

So its either weapon, no video, Pyro, or Medic.

If the Demoman gets the next update, then a lot of people will complain because they think that the demo is OP. Hell, they think the dispenser is OP.


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At 7/9/09 12:25 AM, ForcedDj wrote:
If the Demoman gets the next update, then a lot of people will complain because they think that the demo is OP. Hell, they think the dispenser is OP.

Explain what OP means...

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At 7/9/09 12:30 AM, RKthrilla wrote:
At 7/9/09 12:25 AM, ForcedDj wrote:
If the Demoman gets the next update, then a lot of people will complain because they think that the demo is OP. Hell, they think the dispenser is OP.
Explain what OP means...

overpowered. Sometimes Original poster, but in games, its overpowered.


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At 7/9/09 12:59 AM, ForcedDj wrote:
Explain what OP means...
overpowered. Sometimes Original poster, but in games, its overpowered.

Yeah, I was like.. Demoman Original poster? LOL

Okay..

In my opinion, what makes TF2 fun is that EVERY class is over powered.

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At 7/9/09 01:12 AM, RKthrilla wrote:
At 7/9/09 12:59 AM, ForcedDj wrote:
Explain what OP means...
overpowered. Sometimes Original poster, but in games, its overpowered.
Yeah, I was like.. Demoman Original poster? LOL

Okay..

In my opinion, what makes TF2 fun is that EVERY class is over powered.

Not... really... I think it's real balanced... although yeah, it's arguable that demo's are overpowered... not so sure about dispensers... They're only overpowered when the player using them is UBER PWNAGE (or has a medic)

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never saw this thread or i woulda joined earlier.
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At 7/8/09 03:23 PM, RKthrilla wrote:
At 7/8/09 02:55 PM, H-A-X-O-R-Z wrote: Something I've noticed over here at NG TF2 crew, here everyone compliments the game, and provides useful feedback and tactics, over in the Steam TF2 forums, everyone is like "BAWW PYRO IS OP!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEMOMAN IS OP!!!!!!! SOLDIER IS OP!!!!!!" etc.

I never read a single page of the Steam forums (except for 1 thread that was made by VenomKing) but could you link me to a particularly funny/flaming/n00bish thread?


Nothing is ever discussed other than Over/under power issues.

Don't they have anything better do to?


That's because we aren't just a bunch of 13 year old fanboys...

Well, l have to say that some 13 year olds are VEEEERY annoying and they are squeaking and complaining all the time...not to mention that the game is rated 16+, but anyway...
Some 12-13 year olds are very polite and helpful to their team...
There is one guy called Josh on UKCS servers, he is a really good kid...
Well, the only problem is that usually their names are like : (^_^)MaRk2@3837o.Olol23>,>The Pwn3r-_-
Also, l recently did my checking of the stats page (not mine, TF2's) and l came across some very very sad things....

Here

As for total playtime, the heavy is last by a large gap...which is kinda normal if VALVe keeps giving anti-heavy unlocks to other classes....still, l don't think that the heavy is UP in any way, but maybe it's just because l play the class a lot...
But the first class is the engie?
WTF?
Moving on, ironically, in the average points per hour section the medic is obviously first, and the heavy second.
Bonk!
In the avg. kill per hour the heavy is first this time...
In the avg. assists per hour the heavy is in the second place along with the pyro..
but the heavy is only 7th when it comes to average lifespan...why?
It's so easy staying alive when you are a heavy..,just don't use the kamikaze rush tactic..
The minigun is 2nd when it comes to damage dealt since the flamer and the rocket launcher are both in first place.
2Fort is the first map when it comes to playtime with a massive gap between it and the second one...
Why the hell do people play it?
It's so boring and it isn't good for any class except for the sniper, demo, soldier and spy.
Also, it seems that RED wins Hodoo 70% of the time.
Lol.
But seriously people, PLAY MORE HEAVY!
If you give him a chance you'll see that he is the best class when it comes to mass killing and owning people...


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I can't see how the Demoman is overpowered. Demoman has no chance against a skilled Scout as long as it isn't inside an airduct or something.

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At 7/8/09 08:32 PM, blackcat2000 wrote: Nah, Singapore... Close enough to Australia though, I guess, or more precisely, far away from the US.

Singapore eh? Do you play on Australian servers?

Anyway, added you on Steam in case you do :P

At 7/8/09 11:41 PM, ForcedDj wrote: So, what do you think the next class update and Meet the class video will be? I am starting to think the Pyro will have the next video since well, they might want to end the fucking rumor once and for all(or keep it going).

I think it's either gonna be soldier or demo, or perhaps another double update. This is mainly speculation by me, just from hints dropped by Valve on their official blog. First a crossword posted by the Soldier, and secondly the map packs for Source SDK being titles "Go get 'em boyos" which is a demo saying... it might be the tinfoil speaking, or I may be seeing something real here.

We all know how much Valve like to drop hints - look at the Scout update and their "April Fool's joke" for proof.

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At 7/8/09 02:55 PM, H-A-X-O-R-Z wrote: Something I've noticed over here at NG TF2 crew, here everyone compliments the game, and provides useful feedback and tactics, over in the Steam TF2 forums, everyone is like "BAWW PYRO IS OP!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEMOMAN IS OP!!!!!!! SOLDIER IS OP!!!!!!" etc.

Nothing is ever discussed other than Over/under power issues.

You noticed rightly. We appreciate the gameplay and VALVe's work over this and try to make it nice so that new members or anyone who hears us will buy it. And except the demoman, I have never seen others in STEAM tf2 forums telling that the pyro or soldier is overpowered.


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Yeah, I'm kinda amazed that people actually think that the soldier is OP. But then again, someone will find any and all reasons why. meh... Anywho, does anyone happen to know where the NGTF2 servers are located?

I ask this because I subscribe to WiReD magazine and the had an article about the Future/past/present state of the Internets, and an interview with the fine men and women who safegaurd the tangible elements of the internets found on the ocean floor.

(sorry, probably more than you needed to know) Anyway, my point being that it came with a world map showing the generalized placement of the series of tubes on the ocean floor. (not precise locations, for obvious reasons)

I believe they gave exact reasons for lesser quality internets for certain countries.
well, sorry for the 411 overload, but its something i felt like i wanted to share with you guys!

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At 7/9/09 05:54 AM, HeavyTank wrote: But seriously people, PLAY MORE HEAVY!
If you give him a chance you'll see that he is the best class when it comes to mass killing and owning people...

I'm probably part of that particular trend, cuz I never play heavy (I know I said earlier that i play any class... I meant probably any class... but heavy). I suppose it's because I suck at spy checking (I spycheck tons as pyro though =D) and the heavy moves soooo slooowww... I suppose i get bored of walking and never spy check, then I end up getting backstabbed, then I get annoyed =(

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Apologies for double post, I always forget that there's almost always something interesting after the interesting thing I just read =X

At 7/9/09 07:56 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote:
At 7/8/09 08:32 PM, blackcat2000 wrote: Nah, Singapore... Close enough to Australia though, I guess, or more precisely, far away from the US.
Singapore eh? Do you play on Australian servers?

Anyway, added you on Steam in case you do :P

Haha, sure... Just don't expect an accept any time soon... focusing on my flash, which I do on my mac side... I only go on Steam when playing TF2 and such, which is on my windows side... I usually play Singapore/Malaysian servers, but if you join a game I"ll be sure to check it out =)

At 7/9/09 02:09 PM, No08PwN3R1337 wrote: Yeah, I'm kinda amazed that people actually think that the soldier is OP. But then again, someone will find any and all reasons why.

I like TF2 because, I suppose, as RKThrlla said, they're all overpowered in their own ways. I'll attempt to convey my knowledge of all =D

Scout- Mofo fast, hard to hit, lethal weapon at close range, and since he moves fast, he's gonna be at close range if you don't watch him. Sandman can quell ubers, bonk can distract a sentry for a while while other teammates make short work of it.
I use Scattergun/Pistol/Bat (except a bit earlier when I wanted the 25 uber bonks)

Soldier- Absolute monster with kritzkreig, if used correctly. One hit ko for any class but heavy (crits, I mean) and can probably kill anyone with a well placed rocket (if they're not on full health, and if not, the shotgun will finish you off).

Pyro- Deadly at close range (duh) and probably impossible to really run away from (unless you're a scout). Crits in a crowded area is virtually instapawn.
This is my class, so I'll talk a little more about it =D
I use flaregun/axtinguisher. Shotgun could be better, but I like setting people on fire... S'good to finish people off (hilarious too =D). I figure people should either use the backburner or the axtinguisher, none, but not both. I chose axtinguisher (I just love pyros swinging their axes like a tard) and it's so satisfying to hear the crits of the axe... Especially when i take out a buffed heavy =3

Demo- Really annoying with his sticky traps, lethal if he can use bouncies properly. Uber high damage, can get away from most classes (or kill them in doing so with stickies) if he's running away, and uh... Yeah. A crit in a mob of enemies and up goes your points. There's probably more (i.e. destroys buildings) but what I've said is bad enough =P

Heavy- (actually i forgot who the number 5 class was forever... needed a google image =P) Incredible health, almost invincible if buffed, high damage, can basically outsnipe a sniper if he's critting with Sasha, is hilarious (as a whole) and pretty cool when me and my friends all go heavy on badwater and own everything on the payload (too many bullets for the opposing team to do much =))
I don't use anything in particular when I play heavy... switches around with what I feel like.

Engineer- One word. Sentries. Aim-bot machines that are stationary (shoot... forgot which spelling I'm meant to use... a or e...). Dispensers, teleporters. Simple, they're all good enough. His wrench also performs crits 99.9% on me when I'm spy, so.... uh...

Medic- Ubercharge! Heal all your teammates! Basically an almost never ending 1 UP supply (or at least the good ones). I don't like the kritzkreig so much, but I've done good things when I've been kritz'ed before...
I prefer: Blutsauger (as with most people)/Ubercharge/Ubersaw

Sniper- Can kill from very far away. How annoying. Lethal damage with headshots even if not charged, and that's pretty much it.

You also win the gayest class of TF2 award

I use: Huntsman (sniper rifle is technically better, but I like huntsman because i don't need to aim so much)/Jarate (or Razorback, I don't have a strong preference, but Jarate is lulzier)

Spy- Hidden from enemy, can annoy the enemy team with CnD while calling spy, instakill anyone who isn't ubered (with backstab) and can headshot with ambassador. Combat spies are surprisingly good. Awesome at melee, good range, etc. I like!
I use: Ambassador/Cloak and Dagger

Hope I interested at least one of you =P

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The other day, I asked my friend if he heard of TF2.

"Oh, I love that game!"

He has an xbox... So I go over his house to check it out. Lo and behold, the control is the most awkward piece of shit I've ever touched. I couldn't even pull off a fluid rocket jump. I sure as hell didn't see anyone else pulling off any advanced maneuvers either.

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At 7/9/09 07:27 PM, blackcat2000 wrote:
I'm probably part of that particular trend, cuz I never play heavy (I know I said earlier that i play any class... I meant probably any class... but heavy). I suppose it's because I suck at spy checking (I spycheck tons as pyro though =D) and the heavy moves soooo slooowww... I suppose i get bored of walking and never spy check, then I end up getting backstabbed, then I get annoyed =(

I dunno, l've been playing heavy since my first minute of TF2 (and the next 5 hours ;-) ) and l always found it fun to play.
As for spychecking, if you're not good at it just stick with your team and check the kill log.
If you see that someone on you team is backstabbed switch to shotgun and be on full alert.


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At 7/9/09 09:55 PM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: The other day, I asked my friend if he heard of TF2.

"Oh, I love that game!"

He has an xbox... So I go over his house to check it out. Lo and behold, the control is the most awkward piece of shit I've ever touched. I couldn't even pull off a fluid rocket jump. I sure as hell didn't see anyone else pulling off any advanced maneuvers either.

TF2 was made for the computer<3

True that, it's still fun to play every now and then at the moment as it does not hold the updates yet. So 2fort feels really good usually. And it was the first I tried.

But PC is just awesome.
In Turbine has anyone sticky jumped as a demo to the top bits of the intel room (yeah, little parts you can jump on, and no body can see you,) then set stickies on the intel and exploded anyone who tried getting it? Funny thing is it works so much (sometimes you can kill three or four people in a row....) until they figure out where you are, or they attempt to blow it up - of course you have your other gun to use.


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Just had a fantastic run as Scout in Turbine, 20 kills and 4 assists in one life.

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Well, been practicing on Rocket Jumping. I am starting to get better at it(just shoot the ground while jump+crouching).

Does the medic seem to be the least respected class? Most people blame the Medic for a failed uber, or dying, or burned to death while the patient took the medkit while having 90% health(or 290 if they are a heavy). If they are not being healed, they try going in front of the Medic to be healed, spamming MEDIC!, if they are, they still spam and will be pissed if they die or if the Medic decides to heal someone else.

It seems to be that way, I know if I screwed up and didn't do shit while a Medic is healing me, then the person to blame is myself for screwing it up. Hell, when I get healed by a Medic, I just press f to say thanks(binded it, I think its voicemenu 2 2).

Well, wondering what could be the next TF2 class update.


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At 7/10/09 11:03 PM, ForcedDj wrote: Well, been practicing on Rocket Jumping. I am starting to get better at it(just shoot the ground while jump+crouching).

I only discovered that crouching makes you jump further about 2 months ago.. I was totally *facepalm*. Especially since I love Soldier and Demo, though I prefer sticky jumps to rocket jumps.. and I really haven't played Soldier much recently, he's too slow.

It seems to be that way, I know if I screwed up and didn't do shit while a Medic is healing me, then the person to blame is myself for screwing it up. Hell, when I get healed by a Medic, I just press f to say thanks(binded it, I think its voicemenu 2 2).

I always apologize when I fail an uber/kritz, even if I'm pretty sure it was the medics fault for casting it (zomg spells) at a stupid time. And I always say thanks (z-1 isn't it? or x-1..) when a medic heals me :3 I'm kind.

Well, wondering what could be the next TF2 class update.

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At 7/10/09 10:29 AM, Racoonmario wrote: Just had a fantastic run as Scout in Turbine, 20 kills and 4 assists in one life.

Uhm..holy shit!
In one life?As a scout?
How did you do that?


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I think Demo is up next for updates.
I'm very inpatient to see it.... hm, Demoman is amazing at Capture the flag imo.
And payload....they just own at destroying sentries.


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At 7/11/09 12:45 AM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 7/10/09 10:29 AM, Racoonmario wrote: Just had a fantastic run as Scout in Turbine, 20 kills and 4 assists in one life.
Uhm..holy shit!
In one life?As a scout?
How did you do that?

The center room in turbine is a playground for scouts; think about it. There's a lot of wide open space for him to move around, 2 medic boxes to rush to, and 3 escape routes back to the base. I found it surprisingly easy to get a bunch of hit-n-run kills with scout on turbine, you just need to keep popping in and out all the entrances.

Also, I'm wondering if you guys think Rocket jumping is worth it in arena. I usually don't do more than 40 damage to myself, but health is precious. There's a number of classes you get an enormous combat advantage on by being in the air, but only if you make your shots count. Prediction on my shots happens to be something I need a lot of practice with. IMHO, it's only a good idea in arena if you have a medic.


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At 7/11/09 06:53 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: Also, I'm wondering if you guys think Rocket jumping is worth it in arena.

Have a medic with you... problem solved.

I have been playing a lot of heavy recently and I don't know why. Maybe the sandvich just lures me in. I cleared the last point of Dustbowl 2 using only my KKGB's, killed 2 medics and a spy. However my efforts were in vein as a faggot using the backburner came in and killed me INSTANTLY (how I hate that gun). So because of that we lost.

But apart from that, I have found that with a good medic I can easily rack up about 8 kills per life, if I don't get sniped or backstabbed. This is especially true on the user made map ctf_hallofdeath. That map is perfect especially if your team has backed the other to their intel. It just works so well.

Don't worry Sasha you will get your fix soon enough.

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Just have a good medic during Arena I guess....in watchtower as a Demo it's good to jump on the roof area of the point, then launch explosives and stickies into the center....and they can't do much about it unless they have another demo or a sniper around.


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At 7/11/09 03:27 AM, FurryDemon wrote: I think Demo is up next for updates.

Hey, l just thought of something.
The sniper vs spy update's goal was, among other things, not to fill all the servers with one class that could own all the others...so they chose the sniper's nemesis, the spy, to counter that.
If they make another double update it will be difinitely a demo/engie one!
Think about it for a second...if a demo/soldier update occurs the screen will be filled with explosions and gibs, and all the other classes would have to hide to avoid the apocalypse.
But if you put two rivals in a same update intresting things can occur.
I think that the engie will get new weapons but not new buildables since all the other classes got "only" weapon replacements..
And also l have absolutely no idea of what kind of contraptions could the engie use...combining Texas and technology ain't easy...

I'm very inpatient to see it.... hm, Demoman is amazing at Capture the flag imo.

Demo amazing at ctf?Uh....

And payload....they just own at destroying sentries.

Indeed.


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