My Crazy Idea...

[IrishChrisman]

So I was talking to a friend on MSN when an idea came into my head. The way to make use of a perfect little used employment sector. Children, more specifficly teenagers. If I was elected president of the world I would create this. Have parents make dam well sure their kid could talk and do all that other shit by the age of 2. By then the child would be sent to school where a rigorous amont of teaching would commence. At the age of ten the child would have to make a choice. Continue school or learn an apprentinceship. The kid would then learn a craft be it medicine, or judicidal. Then begin that job at 15. But the kid would be able to earn privelges. If you wanted to be able to have sex with partners. Take this test and if you pass you'll be able to. Want to drink. Take a test and if you pass you get to. They wouldn't be general knoledge tests but tests pertaining to the field. The person taking the test would have to know of the dangers and responsibilities regarding the activity.

Before being fully granted the kid would have to take a polygraph to make sure their not just doing it for kicks. But things such as joining the military or driving, the potential soldier/driver would have to be a minimal hieght. If this was enacted it would user in a great age.

Please feel free to attack my thinking, ask me on something that wasn't clear or anything else.-Chris

[Absolutelynothing]

Want to use question marks. Take the test.

Seriously, someone could lie on the test to get a privilidge, then abuse it.

[IrishChrisman]

At 1/13/08 08:50 PM, Absolutelynothing wrote: Want to use question marks. Take the test.

Seriously, someone could lie on the test to get a privilidge, then abuse it.

Then you could take the priviledge away and send the person to prison to scare the shit out of any other people who want to lie.

[Absolutelynothing]

At 1/13/08 08:43 PM, IrishChrisman wrote: Before being fully granted the kid would have to take a polygraph to make sure their not just doing it for kicks. But things such as joining the military or driving, the potential soldier/driver would have to be a minimal hieght. If this was enacted it would user in a great age.

Oops, didn't see that.
But still, it seems too dependent upon technology and testing. How would you make a test that qualifies someone for drinking?

Why do you want to drink?
a). Looks fun
b). Religious beliefs
c). To score!

Seriously, there's no reason for drinking, so there could be no right answer to that quiz. Thus, no one can drink. Same thing goes for the sex quiz.

Also for the sex quiz, why would someone say, "Oh, you passed this test, go make me proud and make my daughter pregnant. I think you'll do fine"?

[IrishChrisman]

At 1/13/08 08:58 PM, Absolutelynothing wrote: Why do you want to drink?
a). Looks fun
b). Religious beliefs
c). To score!

Seriously, there's no reason for drinking, so there could be no right answer to that quiz. Thus, no one can drink. Same thing goes for the sex quiz.

Also for the sex quiz, why would someone say, "Oh, you passed this test, go make me proud and make my daughter pregnant. I think you'll do fine"?

For your answer to the sex question its not about having sex its about being able to legally have sex with older people, or the equivelent of turning 18. And the alchol test would be more like seeing if you knew the dangers of it and a test to see if your organs could take it with out keeling over.

[Brick-top]

Communism doesn't work.

Move on and happy christmas.

[IrishChrisman]

At 1/13/08 09:06 PM, Brick-top wrote: Communism doesn't work.

Move on and happy christmas.

How is it Communisim?.......Oh ya it does shre some parralels to Communism.

[Absolutelynothing]

At 1/13/08 09:02 PM, IrishChrisman wrote: For your answer to the sex question its not about having sex its about being able to legally have sex with older people, or the equivelent of turning 18.

still, how would you make the test?

And the alchol test would be more like seeing if you knew the dangers of it and a test to see if your organs could take it with out keeling over.

So, if someone knew the dangers, they could drink, but if someeone didn't they couldn't? And everyone's body can't take alcohol without keeling over. It's not like there are people who are invincible to alcohol.

Your results seem so certain that you can't figure out how you're going to make the test.

[IrishChrisman]

At 1/13/08 09:22 PM, Absolutelynothing wrote:

At 1/13/08 09:02 PM, IrishChrisman wrote: For your answer to the sex question its not about having sex its about being able to legally have sex with older people, or the equivelent of turning 18.

still, how would you make the test?

Seeing if the person knows the risks, if they have the morel enough to do it. And to make sure their not just going to use it to do clid porn.

And the alchol test would be more like seeing if you knew the dangers of it and a test to see if your organs could take it with out keeling over.

So, if someone knew the dangers, they could drink, but if someeone didn't they couldn't? And everyone's body can't take alcohol without keeling over. It's not like there are people who are invincible to alcohol.

Your results seem so certain that you can't figure out how you're going to make the test.

I state in my previous post the organs would be tested, to make sure they can withstand it.

[KeithHybrid]

I believe laws exsist to prevent that. Something about child labor, I dunno, I wasn't born at the time.

And the thing where children must be able to talk by age 2? That's ludicrous. I wasn't able to speak until I was five, but no one assumes that I'm slow. As a matter of fact, I'm highly intelligent. By your standards, parents with children born with autism, deafness, or a genetic disorder that would hinder one's ability to speak, are bad parents who should have their tubes tide/get their nuts cut off.

Your plan fails.

[deslona]

I think all teenagers (14 and onwards) who are not part of a sports club/other group/already working/have special needs or responsibilities - should take compulsory volunteer work. (funny oxymoron isn't it?)
This will do several things -
Give the teen a good work ethic for real life.
Let them learn practical skills.
Keep them from participating in potentially harmful activities.
Meet new people and give back to the community.

At the end of this the organization(s) that benefited to the youth may be obligated? or feel gratitude to the youth and help them in the starting of their career.

[IrishChrisman]

At 1/14/08 07:15 AM, KeithHybrid wrote: I believe laws exsist to prevent that. Something about child labor, I dunno, I wasn't born at the time.

And the thing where children must be able to talk by age 2? That's ludicrous. I wasn't able to speak until I was five, but no one assumes that I'm slow. As a matter of fact, I'm highly intelligent. By your standards, parents with children born with autism, deafness, or a genetic disorder that would hinder one's ability to speak, are bad parents who should have their tubes tide/get their nuts cut off.

Your plan fails.

....Abolish the laws, oh and keep the kids in school until the age of 13, allowing ample time for learning. They'll start school age at 5.

[chaoticnuteral]

it seem like way to much idea and no details.

[CommanderQ]

Why don't you just implant chips in everyone's necks that electrocute them whenever they have an indepentent thought? Or make them request permission from the government whenever they leave thier designated, monitored, cubicles? THIS IS COMMUNISM!!!!!

[Musician]

So then I'd have to be approved if I wanted to have sex or if I wanted to drink alcohol?

No Thanks, that's not the governments business.

[SadisticMonkey]

At 1/14/08 08:28 AM, deslona wrote: I think all teenagers (14 and onwards) who are not part of a sports club/other group/already working/have special needs or responsibilities - should take compulsory volunteer work. (funny

Because some of us don't study instead of playing sport?

[deslona]

At 1/14/08 10:18 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 1/14/08 08:28 AM, deslona wrote: I think all teenagers (14 and onwards) who are not part of a sports club/other group/already working/have special needs or responsibilities - should take compulsory volunteer work. (funny

Because some of us don't study instead of playing sport?

And I am talking about 2 days of work? Of course not. It has to be a realistic allocation of time. I am not talking about the whole weekend, and I expect many families who feel that their child would be 'subjugated' to this would apply to have their child(ren) exempt. And study would be an excuse for this.
But lets face it, some districts are better off with a program then without.

[fahrenheit]

Kids aren't machines, suicides among teenagers would sky rocket.
Just look at Japan.

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

Have fun trying to enforce this without creating an all pervasive government which will eventually piss of enough people somewhere and get you over thrown.

And at age 10, most kids don't even know what the hell they are good at, there is no way you could actually get them to make a life choice at that age, it would end up down to the parents, who would all choose the education option in hopes of them getting a good job more money etc.

Your system is broken, there is no way you can get kids mature enough to make such a choice, even if you did give them huge amounts of education and the like. 10 year olds just don't have the mental capacity for such a decision.

[Boltrig]

Enforce this way of doing things and you have an uprising on your hands. Thats quite shitty treatment by comparison to how things are these days. People would overthrow any government that tried it.

[voitagi]

I think the age is a bit too young im currently 18 and still unsure of what I want to do with my life howeveralso working at such a young age where you are underdeveloped mentaly and physicly would be a bit of a problem and this whole system does seem a bit too much like machinery and unlike machines humans are prone to mistakes and this is bound to cause major holes in this system.This does have a lot of strong ideals in theory but so did communism and how systems work in theory and in practice is completly different and while you (and in my opinion myself) would thrive in a slightly tweaked and perfected version of this system it would probably cause more problems than it fixes.

I do agree with many of these ideals such as the tests to see if your ready and having to take a polygraph test.As they would be benificial and heres an example why.

a girl in my class 17 and about to have a baby only just found out that alchohol is a poison and you can over dose,she was clueless about the damage it could do to the child and to herself.

I know this person a little better than a stranger and I am of the impression that she only has the best intentions for herself and her soon to be child ,yet I think its wrong that she is going to be a mother while soo uninformed.If she had to take a sex and alchohol test wich i would assume would quiz/inform you of the risks damages and your general maturity(to see if you can drink/have sex responsably).However no tets is 100% accurate and there would be major gaps in this situation but i think the situation would be much improved from that here (in Ireland) at the moment.

However this does have problems similar to what communism had to face,it is never certain that the people in charge wouldnt abuse the system.

[SomeNick]

I don't see the need to stress kids that much if jobs continue to suck so badly. Most employees I have met don't even hope to ever buy their own home during their lifetime, so bad most jobs are. When jobs stop sucking, then we can put more emphasis on kid's education, but until then, they will have little motivation. Having like, Jeff, who graduated fromc ollege with straight A+, earn 1300 euros a month, doesn't represent a very exciting future for the kids and teenagers, does it? Considering that, no matter how much you try not to spend, that money flies away faster than 1,2,3. Much less buy your own apartment or anything.

Blame the Banks for that. They are the ones strangling everyone with HUGE interest rates.

[Paradigms]

About testing people's organs to see if they can take alcohol, if they need to take a test before they start, they will most likely not be able to handle it first time, and that would thus make drinking impossible. Alcohol is a drug, tolerance must be built up in order to be able to "handle" it.

[PubicTears]

Everybody would turn to mindless single brained zombies who make money! Mabey your perfect is differnt to mine. Were would the child have time to socialise to need to take the test for sex and drinking?....

[IrishChrisman]

As someone abouve said ten-yearolds don't have the mental capacity I later said it would be changed to thirteen. And for someone saying. "You have to take a test to have sex, WTF Commie?!" I said to have sex with those older then them. Not having consensual sex but with older people. The test(if passed) would mean that anybody (regardless of age) could have sex with them.

[mcshine]

u posted your name FAIL

[CaptainPoncho]

At 1/13/08 08:43 PM, IrishChrisman wrote: So I was talking to a friend on MSN when an idea came into my head. The way to make use of a perfect little used employment sector. Children, more specifficly teenagers. If I was elected president of the world I would create this. Have parents make dam well sure their kid could talk and do all that other shit by the age of 2. By then the child would be sent to school where a rigorous amont of teaching would commence.

I agree 100%. I also think that children need to be kept in their cages more. Goddamn uppity children.

[6re9]

commie bastard

[IrishChrisman]

At 1/18/08 04:28 PM, 6re9 wrote: commie bastard

How am I a commie bastard? The tests would be like getting your drivers licence.

[dySWN]

At 1/13/08 08:43 PM, IrishChrisman wrote: So I was talking to a friend on MSN when an idea came into my head. The way to make use of a perfect little used employment sector. Children, more specifficly teenagers. If I was elected president of the world I would create this. Have parents make dam well sure their kid could talk and do all that other shit by the age of 2. By then the child would be sent to school where a rigorous amont of teaching would commence. At the age of ten the child would have to make a choice. Continue school or learn an apprentinceship. The kid would then learn a craft be it medicine, or judicidal. Then begin that job at 15. But the kid would be able to earn privelges. If you wanted to be able to have sex with partners. Take this test and if you pass you'll be able to. Want to drink. Take a test and if you pass you get to. They wouldn't be general knoledge tests but tests pertaining to the field. The person taking the test would have to know of the dangers and responsibilities regarding the activity.

Before being fully granted the kid would have to take a polygraph to make sure their not just doing it for kicks. But things such as joining the military or driving, the potential soldier/driver would have to be a minimal hieght. If this was enacted it would user in a great age.

Please feel free to attack my thinking, ask me on something that wasn't clear or anything else.-Chris

You do realize that all of this is generally considered beyond the pale of even totalitarianism, right? Freedom makes us do dumb things, but at least a free society is generally a happier one. Forcing this kind of stricture on people leads to unrest, and unrest often leads to uprising.

Tl;dr, enjoy being overthrown as the president of the world.