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shadowcast61

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Posted at: 1/12/08 10:13 PM

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Slavery or Racism
(in general)

First of all, I admit this IS for my homework, but I'm not looking for reasons why either was first. My homework was to ask 15 people this question and record results so I wouls appreciate it if you answered, and reasons would be nice to hear too, just to make conversation :D

I vote for slavery.

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Slavery.

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Slavery came first. When slavery was abolished, then the whites started to hate the blacks.

Slavery, then racism.


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I'd say racism. Because its hard to enslave someone who you think is equal to you.

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If you think your race is above any other race in anyway then that is considered racism.

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I dunno, but I came first, so I win by default.


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Racism.

The white slavetraders had to be racist in order to perceive African natives as below them, and therefore fitting for enslavement.

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At 1/12/08 10:15 PM, Ximos wrote: I'd say racism. Because its hard to enslave someone who you think is equal to you.

Yah, but wasn't there Africans enslaving Africans and Egyptians enslaving Egyptians in war and stuff before most basic racism?

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Racism.

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a lot of fighting is caused by racism
and a lot of slavery came with the end of the fighting when the losers were captured

ill say racism

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What? Racism of course. I'm sure that the groups of people who roamed the earth started disliking other groups before they ever thought of enslaving them.


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Racism causes a "better than thou" mentality, thus leading to slavery.
So, racism came first.

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racism came first cuz if u didnt have someone then why would u want them to become a slave


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If you're limiting 'slavery' to racism, then agree with this post.

At 1/12/08 10:14 PM, John12346 wrote: Slavery came first. When slavery was abolished, then the whites started to hate the blacks.

Slavery, then racism.

But slavery in general would be rich folk abusing the middle and lower class. Simply because the lower/middle class could not earn their way to the top and received no respect. This has been happening for many centuries.

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Did you know that Africans came to Spain and even as far as Ireland and took whole coastal villages as slaves during Charles I reign? As such it was actually we who enslaved afterwards and we should not be given the treatment as harsh as we do as they also enslaved yet they have never had to make up for it like the rest of us have?

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Racism basically come from fear, so I'd guess that came first.

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At 1/12/08 10:24 PM, liquidfire666 wrote: racism came first cuz if u didnt have someone then why would u want them to become a slave

For example, two African tribes fight. One tribe wins. The winning tribe say "Hey, we need some free labor, why not use the war captives?"

My point ^

Also, what about times when people hadn't discovered people of other race? There was conflict that led to slavery. Slavery is not just based on racism, it is the need for free labor...just in a cruel and forceful manner. Slavery eventually evolved into feelings of superiority (racism) in my opinion.

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Racism, people had to find a group to consider "inferior" to enslave.


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Slavery came first, seeing as it's often not based on race.

Often times, nations enslaved the other nations they conquered, even if they were the same race.

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Racism.

Think farther back in history, to the time when the Jews were enslaved by the Egyptians. Many wealthy Egyptians looked down upon Jews, as an inferior culture (Racism). The Jews had very little power within the ruling system, so therefore they were considered minorities (No offense). Suddenly, people began to think "Hey! I can force these inferior peons to work for me! Because i have power over them." (Slavery)

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At 1/12/08 10:30 PM, positively-negative wrote: Racism, people had to find a group to consider "inferior" to enslave.

My point is, what if that group happened to be of the same race? Again, civil conflict could lead to slacery too. Especially with religious issues early in history.

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At 1/12/08 10:32 PM, shadowcast61 wrote:
At 1/12/08 10:30 PM, positively-negative wrote: Racism, people had to find a group to consider "inferior" to enslave.
My point is, what if that group happened to be of the same race? Again, civil conflict could lead to slacery too. Especially with religious issues early in history.

Ah, but what is the fundamental reason for the conflict in the first place? A hatrid for the other group aka, racism.


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At 1/12/08 10:14 PM, John12346 wrote: Slavery came first. When slavery was abolished, then the whites started to hate the blacks.

Slavery, then racism.

If the people living in Africa were white, I doubt they would have been made slaves.
Racism came first.


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Slavery did. Back in Africa, before Europeans came, there was slavery, but they were mostly POWs.


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At 1/12/08 11:08 PM, Major-Blood wrote: Slavery did. Back in Africa, before Europeans came, there was slavery, but they were mostly POWs.

Remember slaves were brought by Africans from Europe. Remember that.

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Racism, slaves became slaves because they were considered pathetic and worthless

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At 1/12/08 10:15 PM, Ximos wrote: I'd say racism. Because its hard to enslave someone who you think is equal to you.

Yeah what he said.

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