Conspiracy tiem

[emmytee]

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/kucinic h-wants-new-hampshire-recount-2008-01-10 .html

Hillary cheated?

Exit polls had Obama winning, polls done before had Obama winning and hand counted areas...had obama winning.

Obviously it would be unfair to ascribe dishonesty to particular party and only that party - So why couldn't a democrat cheat? She was down and out until her surprise victory in New hampshire and now she will probably win the nomination.

Also, kucinich would gain nothing from this, everyone knows he won't get the nomination.

Machine voting = retarded Idea

[SmilezRoyale]

Caucuses are annoying...

[KeithHybrid]

Machine voting = retarded Idea

Actually, that sounds about correct. We never had problems with the old punch-hole method of voting, then electronic voting and machine voting come along and BAM! Miscounts and controversy.

Bring back punch-hole voting!

[butsbutsbutsbutsbuts]

hillary is gray alien freemason

[Imperator]

At 1/12/08 12:59 PM, KeithHybrid wrote:
Actually, that sounds about correct. We never had problems with the old punch-hole method of voting

Hanging chads anyone?

[HaloKing336]

lmao bloody Kucinich.

[CommanderX1125]

At 1/12/08 03:21 PM, Imperator wrote:

At 1/12/08 12:59 PM, KeithHybrid wrote:
Actually, that sounds about correct. We never had problems with the old punch-hole method of voting

Hanging chads anyone?

They only become an issue when people can't comprehend the fact that in order for the chad to hang, it must have been punched. Unfortunatly most people don't seem to be bright enough to put thier political beliefs to the side when something such as that occurs, which is where a lot of the contreversy is born.

[TheMason]

Kucinich, who placed at the back of the Democratic field with less than 1.4 percent of the votes, said in a letter to New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner that there were "possible vote-count irregularities" that have been "fueled by the stunning disparities between various 'independent' pre-election polls and the actual election results."

What I find uproariously funny is how much ppl like Shaggy get on here and talk about how those 'independent' polls are media manipulation and now his guy is citing them as evidence of possible vote-count irregulatities!

(Waits for Shaggy to berate him, use foul language and call him names for pointing this out...)

At 1/12/08 02:18 PM, butsbutsbutsbutsbuts wrote: hillary is gray alien freemason

Hey now...we have standards!

[Christopherr]

At 1/12/08 08:27 PM, TheMason wrote: Kucinich, who placed at the back of the Democratic field with less than 1.4 percent of the votes, said in a letter to New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner that there were "possible vote-count irregularities" that have been "fueled by the stunning disparities between various 'independent' pre-election polls and the actual election results."
What I find uproariously funny is how much ppl like Shaggy get on here and talk about how those 'independent' polls are media manipulation and now his guy is citing them as evidence of possible vote-count irregulatities!
(Waits for Shaggy to berate him, use foul language and call him names for pointing this out...)

Of course there are "irregularities" between polls and votes, because:
1) polls aren't necessarily accurate; and
2) many, many people realize that their candidate has no chance of winning, so they switch to another candidate shortly before the actual voting.

I would doubt the polls before doubting the votes.

At 1/12/08 02:18 PM, butsbutsbutsbutsbuts wrote: hillary is gray alien freemason

Hey now...we have standards!

On NG? Where?

[TheMason]

At 1/12/08 09:14 PM, Christopherr wrote:

At 1/12/08 08:27 PM, TheMason wrote:

Of course there are "irregularities" between polls and votes, because:
1) polls aren't necessarily accurate; ...

Polls done scientifically are usually highly accurate especially during the two weeks before an election.

However, there are some problems with polls:
1) Paradigm shifts; when there is a significant change in how ppl can be gotten ahold of. Face to face polling is expensive; and phone polling is now problematic because a significant portion of the ppl will not have an equal chance of being polled b/c they only use a Cell phone as their home phone (such as myself).
2) Embarassment. You have a black man running for president. Many ppl will say they are supporting the black candidate when polled because they do not want to appear racist.

But my point is the other day Shaggy posted a link to a poll that had Kucinich at approx 77% support to justify his belief that Kucinich has a prayer of winning. It was a 'truly independent' poll...unlike the ones that are media lies and manipulation and not to be trusted. I just found this part of the story ironic...

At 1/12/08 02:18 PM, butsbutsbutsbutsbuts wrote: hillary is gray alien freemason

Hey now...we have standards!

On NG? Where?

RL Masons such as myself...

[Christopherr]

At 1/12/08 09:52 PM, TheMason wrote: Polls done scientifically are usually highly accurate especially during the two weeks before an election.

Call me old-school, but never in my life have I trusted a poll unless it was actually done by the government.

But my point is the other day Shaggy posted a link to a poll that had Kucinich at approx 77% support to justify his belief that Kucinich has a prayer of winning. It was a 'truly independent' poll...unlike the ones that are media lies and manipulation and not to be trusted. I just found this part of the story ironic...

Where'd the extra 75% come from again?

[butsbutsbutsbutsbuts]

At 1/12/08 08:27 PM, TheMason wrote: (Waits for Shaggy to berate him, use foul language and call him names for pointing this out...)

At 1/12/08 02:18 PM, butsbutsbutsbutsbuts wrote: hillary is gray alien freemason

Hey now...we have standards!

So you admit you are extra-terrestrials!

[GriffinLancer]

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Thats all I'm going to say. aside from the fact that they'll be instating the REALID act in 2009, which is going to infringe on our freedoms. They're keeping you wrapped around your little finger, and none of you have realized that you're just a small meat-puppet in the grand scheme of things, with no true freedoms. As long as NAFTA is building that Super Highway, we'll be losing our freedoms one by one until we wake up in a 1984-esque world, where even thinking bad about the government would get you killed.

So lets start thinking with our heads, not about political biased, but what we as People in a Democratic Society want.

[TheMason]

At 1/12/08 11:41 PM, butsbutsbutsbutsbuts wrote:

At 1/12/08 08:27 PM, TheMason wrote: (Waits for Shaggy to berate him, use foul language and call him names for pointing this out...)

At 1/12/08 02:18 PM, butsbutsbutsbutsbuts wrote: hillary is gray alien freemason

Hey now...we have standards!

So you admit you are extra-terrestrials!

er...umm...well...you see...it's kindof like this...

Hey look at the red light coming from this weird silve cylinder I'm holding!

[D2Kvirus]

Just to get this straight in my head: when Obama wins, it's Kosher - when Hillary wins, it's a bacon sandwich?

Great, that's another reason I've found to not want Obama to win!

[Idiot-Finder]

At 1/13/08 12:34 AM, GriffinLancer wrote: www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Give it a rest kid.

[Christopherr]

At 1/13/08 12:34 AM, GriffinLancer wrote: Thats all I'm going to say. aside from the fact that they'll be instating the REALID act in 2009, which is going to infringe on our freedoms. They're keeping you wrapped around your little finger

How in the hell does scrapping state IDs and making one US ID infringe upon our freedoms? Gimme a break, we're the United States of America, not the States of America. We're one unified country, so it shouldn't be a problem for the ID system unified.

So lets start thinking with our heads, not about political biased, but what we as People in a Democratic Society want.

We are; you aren't.