I've tried it all.

[JamesTKirkV2]

Okay fine...I seem to have lost the previous threads I posted. So, anyway, in order to actually have one that will last...

I have a real problem here. See, there's this really cute, smart girl that I want to go out with, but I just can't get her to. We've been friends for a long time, and unfortunately, she already has a boyfriend. I've tried every card I've got. I've tried simply telling her that this guy's a dick. I've tried just asking her out. I've tried actually telling her how I feel. And all this time...nothing.

The only thing I haven't tried is the jealousy thing, you know, hook up with somebody else to make the first person jealous that they don't have you. And I haven't done that, simply because I don't want to get caught up in some relationship that I don't want to be in, especially if it works and then she comes running to me.

Please NGer's. Help. Nothing stupid. No "Look for somebody else," or "Go gay!" or other moronic shit like that. I have a seriously bad crush, and I need it fixed. Help me.

[SloppyMoe606]

Think about this. "If I thought this out in 5 seconds because my other threads failed, should I post this?"

[Shadow0fDeath]

Relationship Crew

[JamesTKirkV2]

At 1/10/08 08:23 PM, SloppyMoe606 wrote: Think about this. "If I thought this out in 5 seconds because my other threads failed, should I post this?"

Yes i should. And seriously, help. That ^^^ doesn't help.

[Supachai]

Just take a photo of her x]

[TheSovereign]

Go gay and look for somebody else.

[saqwert]

Or, or violence. Threaten her and beat her if she refuses again. Then kill yourself

[Sashuno]

well.... if you REALLY want her, lay off of the advances and just convince her her boyfriend's a dick.
there used to be a serious article on CollegeHumor somewhere about how to do it frighteningly well.

[JamesTKirkV2]

At 1/10/08 08:27 PM, TheSovereign wrote: Go gay and look for somebody else.

...............................
YES!! THAT'S IT!!! That's the help I needed.

fuckhead.

funny tho.

[Lagatag]

At 1/10/08 08:22 PM, JamesTKirkV2 wrote: I've tried just asking her out. I've tried actually telling her how I feel. And all this time...nothing.

Actually doing all that stuff makes you look like an asshole IMO, whether her boyfriend is an asshole or not, and she probably thinks you're obsessed with her or something.

[JamesTKirkV2]

At 1/10/08 08:32 PM, Lagatag wrote:

At 1/10/08 08:22 PM, JamesTKirkV2 wrote: I've tried just asking her out. I've tried actually telling her how I feel. And all this time...nothing.

Actually doing all that stuff makes you look like an asshole IMO, whether her boyfriend is an asshole or not, and she probably thinks you're obsessed with her or something.

Perhaps I am. She doesn't seem to care if she does know anyway. That's part of my problem she doesn't seem to care.

psst, wtf is IMO????

[cardboredknight]

Hmm... Well. I had my share of crushes... And you know what? There is somebody better. You might not think the person would be as pretty if she walked by you now, because you are focused on what you want, but listen: Later, maybe in a couple months, you will realize that once you have somebody different, she won't mean as much. She probably isn't as special once you look at it in retrospect, but that is impossible for you probably, seeing as you are not very conscious on what you are doing and are solely dependent on existing in a relationship with this person. If you are meant to be in a relationship, then it will happen. If you are not, it will not happen in the most convenient manner.

I had chased a girl for three years, and then I was finally with her. I broke up with her a week later. If she doesn't want you, you must let go.

She will realize her mistake one day, and you cannot dwell on these things. You will probably reject all of my advice. But, you will realize it's true once you go through it. Have fun!

[cardboredknight]

Oh, and DO NOT OBSESS!!! IT GETS YOU NOWHERE!!!

[StarF68]

If you are in fact serious, I'll make this short: Stop, because you're only making yourself look bad. You're not going to get anywhere the way you're trying, especially if what you've done hasn't worked already. And hell, you're lucky her boyfriend hasn't tried to kick your ass or anything.

The fact is, if it doesn't naturally happen on it's own, it's not working any way you slice it. You can't deceive her into a relationship and expect it to go well by any means. It's just not going to work.

So get over it.

[Thimbles]

If you keep asking, you're going to turn her off from your for good. It might have already happened D:

Also the boyfriend is going to step in sooner or later and beat your face in.

[fahrenheit]

If your her friend and you asked her out to her no, chances are she has no feelings for you.
Besides, dont be a dick by trying to sabotage her relationship, making her unhappy so she dumps her boyfriend on false pretenses wont do anything for you except take away her excuse to why she is saying no.

[Thimbles]

At 1/10/08 08:39 PM, Thimbles wrote: from your* for good.

you*

[Waterflame]

telling her that this guy's a dick etc. is just pure and simple fail. you cant win someone like that. i mean, if she had feelings for you strong enugh to leave him, she proabbly would. if she dont, why would she run to you afterwards.. cept for comfort and then find someone new. you have to charm her, make her fall in love with you, the legit way. if that fails, you have to accept it. she does not see you as anything else than a friend. move on.

[JamesTKirkV2]

To simply answer all responses...

I'm not getting nowhere.
I could easily beat that asshole up. I mean bad.
She does care about me, she just doesn't quite get it.
I do take a lot of things you people said under consideration, perhaps you're all right.
And "if it's going to happen, it will happen" doesn't work if you stop trying.

You have to know if the juice is worth the sqeeze....trust me. If you knew her, it is.

[StarF68]

At 1/10/08 08:55 PM, JamesTKirkV2 wrote: And "if it's going to happen, it will happen" doesn't work if you stop trying.

Not necessarily. You shouldn't stop trying in a sense of stop talking to her or anything. Just maintain your friendship, and don't push it. If she breaks up with him, or starts to feel like she should be with you, then it'll happen. Remember, you can't just think about yourself, you have to consider what she would be thinking about all of this as well, and if you're getting turned down, chances are that she doesn't want to be with you, at least not right now, and you shouldn't pretend that she secretly does or something, because that will just turn out badly.

[JamesTKirkV2]

At 1/10/08 08:58 PM, StarF68 wrote: and you shouldn't pretend that she secretly does or something

No, she does, like I said tho, not enough to switch.

[Reyals]

"I've tried everything."

That's exactly the problem. Doing all that makes you look like a creep. If she has a boyfriend respect the fact and leave her alone.

[Thimbles]

At 1/10/08 08:55 PM, JamesTKirkV2 wrote: To simply answer all responses...

I stopped reading right there.

This girl does not like you. And she will hate you even more if you interfere with her relationship or lay a hand on her boyfriend. Don't let your feelings get the better of you and ruin your reputation. Move on and find the next best girl until the girl you like dumps her boyfriend or vise versa. If she says no then and you keep bothering her, she can and probably will go to the office and report you for harassment.

/obsessiveness
/worry
/thread

edn

[Thimbles]

At 1/10/08 09:01 PM, JamesTKirkV2 wrote:

At 1/10/08 08:58 PM, StarF68 wrote: and you shouldn't pretend that she secretly does or something

No, she does, like I said tho, not enough to switch.

Also where the fuck did the credit for the sig I made for you go?

[StarF68]

At 1/10/08 09:01 PM, JamesTKirkV2 wrote:

At 1/10/08 08:58 PM, StarF68 wrote: and you shouldn't pretend that she secretly does or something

No, she does, like I said tho, not enough to switch.

Alright, I see this is hard for you, which is understandable, these things can be difficult, but let's break this down logically.

Step 1: Never assume anything.

This leads me to my first question: How do you know she likes you? Unless she has actually told you this, you absolutely cannot assume anything. No matter how much you think so. So if she has not told you this, the answer is simple: Stop trying anything with her, at least for the time being.

If she has told you that she does in fact like you, move to the next step.

Step 2: Look at the past.

If she told you this, when was it? Was it before the current relationship she's in, or during? If it was before, go back to step one, and don't assume that her feelings haven't changed now that she's in a relationship. If she told you while she was in the relationship, all I have to say is why would she be in the relationship then? Perhaps she realized it after she entered the relationship? But if she really did, wouldn't she switch? You claim it's because she doesn't like you enough, which leads to the next step.

Step 3: Know the consequences of getting what you want.

Let's say she did one day switch over to you. Would you feel content? Happy? Perhaps, but also realize that your relationship would surely not last. I mean this is a girl who was in a relationship, and fell for someone else while in that relationship. What's to say it wont happen to you?

Step 4: Always consider the other.

Put yourself in her shoes. What if you were in a relationship and some girl kept asking you out? Would you be annoyed? Would you just switch over? And once again: Remember, this is not only about you, you must consider her feelings as well.

After all is said and done, I hope you can either resolve your situation, or figure out how to just get over her.

[killslasher]

At 1/10/08 08:32 PM, Lagatag wrote:

At 1/10/08 08:22 PM, JamesTKirkV2 wrote: I've tried just asking her out. I've tried actually telling her how I feel. And all this time...nothing.

Actually doing all that stuff makes you look like an asshole IMO, whether her boyfriend is an asshole or not, and she probably thinks you're obsessed with her or something.

Yeah kinda,She miht be a slut if she likes the boy jsut because he is attractive.
If you feel like it.
Don't overtrain but just train.
And check out what she likes too.

[zer0gravity1]

Just give it up. She obvioulsy doesnt like you back. She probably thinks you're stalking her since you keep asking. Just leave her alone.

[Tsuchinoko]

There are many different girls out there.

[Reyals]

At 1/10/08 08:55 PM, JamesTKirkV2 wrote: You have to know if the juice is worth the sqeeze....trust me. If you knew her, it is.

1) She doesn't like you, at least not that way. Stop assuming that she does.
2) Stop quoting shitty movies.

[Cooldsunshine]

JESUS F*CKING CHRIST

Always with the same bs. Listen buddy. Sometimes, you are just not meant to be with a girl! Look out there, see tHAr? Thousands of hot girls your age exist in your neighborhood, just open your eyes! Really, consider yourself lucky that she is still your friend after all your failed attempts...

Just stay her friend, be cool, and maybe she can hook you up with someone else. Really dude there is no point at buring your head in the sand (or her boobs I guess, if she has any). You never know maybe in a year or two she'll dump her boyfriend and then she'll consider you, but that only if you guys stayed actual good friends.

So do thAt.