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At 1/5/08 08:27 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 1/5/08 07:54 PM, RommelTJ wrote:

Ok, if Kucinich has 6million plus supporters, he shouldn't have been excluded from the debates. (which are airing right now)

How many of those " 6 millions " voted?

I don't know, but Kucinich consistently polls in the top 3 on internet polls.

Besides, There are not 6 million supporters of Kucinich in Iowa, but I'd bet he will do better in New Hampshire. Fuck, are there even 6 million people in Iowa? I think there are more cows.

6 million supporters is 2% of the American population.

You need at least 5% in Newhampshire ALONE to be in the debates... Which is fairly generous.

Kucinich does have 2% of the vote. And that's not bad, it's just that it doesn't make him a serious contender compared with Obama, Edwards, or Clinton, who each have well over 20%.

At 1/5/08 09:07 PM, RommelTJ wrote:

I don't know, but Kucinich consistently polls in the top 3 on internet polls.

Next time don't rely on internet polls.

At 1/5/08 07:54 PM, RommelTJ wrote: cellar, why does it always have to be about you?

Why don't you ask reviewer-general?

People like him make it about me. And what you're doing right now is an example of that. You didn't even reply to one of my posts, and now you jump in and devote your criticism to me even though someone else was the one who diverted attention from the topic.

Can you let a topic be?

Lol, someone's angry because their topic didn't work out very well once facts came into play.

Can we get back on topic, please?

And what did you just do?

What a hypocrite.

At 1/5/08 11:57 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Why don't you ask reviewer-general?

Please leave sir out of this. *humble*

At 1/6/08 12:27 AM, reviewer-general wrote:

At 1/5/08 11:57 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Why don't you ask reviewer-general?

Please leave sir out of this. *humble*

No, because you're the one who brought me up and ceased talking about the topic so if Rommel had any integrity he would have pointed the finger at you and not me.

Also:

At 1/6/08 12:33 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 1/6/08 12:27 AM, reviewer-general wrote:

At 1/5/08 11:57 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Why don't you ask reviewer-general?

Please leave sir out of this. *humble*

No, because you're the one who brought me up and ceased talking about the topic so if Rommel had any integrity he would have pointed the finger at you and not me.

You could've ignored him, like I ignored you when you started to stray off topic. Why should I point the finger at reviewer?

Also:

Very mature with that picture.

Let me just say that I've also seen UFO's. My dad is a pilot and he has seen UFOs. The Air Force has a lot of military hardware that they don't show you, and sometimes paratroopers wear special lights and look weird from the ground.
UFO =/= Space Aliens.

At 1/6/08 03:42 AM, RommelTJ wrote:

At 1/6/08 12:33 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 1/6/08 12:27 AM, reviewer-general wrote:

At 1/5/08 11:57 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Why don't you ask reviewer-general?

Please leave sir out of this. *humble*

No, because you're the one who brought me up and ceased talking about the topic so if Rommel had any integrity he would have pointed the finger at you and not me.

You could've ignored him, like I ignored you when you started to stray off topic.

LOL

YOU went off topic long before I did. YOU are the one that quoted what I said in a completely different thread. Then you only ignored me when I was talking about the topic. YOU continued to perpetuate off-topic discussion, and blamed ME for the thread supposedly being about me even though it was both you and reviewer-general that made it about me.

You are an enormous hypocrite. Seriously, read the thread. Quit pointing the finger at me just because I provided facts that you don't like and you want to find some way of diverting attention away from it by creating a boogey man.

Why should I point the finger at reviewer?

You're right, you should probably point that finger at yourself first.

Very mature with that picture.

Kucinich is a nutjob.

Nobody but similar wackjobs take him seriously in his politics. I posted that picture for FAR more reasons than what he said about UFOs. The guy is basically wacked out of his mind and continuing to run even though he has less than 5% percent among democrats shows it. He knows he won't win, he knows his message is being rejected not only by Democrats but by Americans as a whole. He's making a scene, he's making a ruckus. He's not going to become President, he knows it, and if you had any brains you'd realize it.

And I'm starting to question your own sanity considering how seemingly oblivious to reality you've been in this thread for criticizing me for things that you and others did. You either have no integrity or you have no sense of reality.

Let me just say that I've also seen UFO's.

I've seen UFOs.

My dad is a pilot and he has seen UFOs.

My dad was a Major in the Air Force, he saw UFOs at Hill Airforce Base in Utah, where I was born.

UFO =/= Space Aliens.

Kucinich = Space Alien

At 1/6/08 04:05 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: YOU went off topic long before I did. YOU are the one that quoted what I said in a completely different thread. Then you only ignored me when I was talking about the topic.

This is what happened. I posted a thread about Kucinich being left out of the debate. You said, as a joke, that you wouldn't vote for anyone that looked like an elf. That was off topic. I stupidly replied to your comment, again off-topic, and then you started debating Kucinich's political campaign. That was definitely off topic.

We were debating why a candidate was left out. No matter how "wacko" he was.

Ok? Ok. Back on Topic.

Kucinich is the only Democratic presidential candidate who has qualified for Federal matching funds who is being excluded by ABC. Further, the complaint charges, the televised event is not a true presidential primary debate without including all credible candidates, but instead is effectively an endorsement of the candidates selected by ABC.

Obviously, most people in power and most Democrats and Republicans do not like Kucinich. But the vast majority of people do not know who he is, and how is he going to get a fair chance at the Primaries if he can't even air on TV!?

I do know that Kucinich is going to lose. I'm not "wacko" as you say. But the people need to listen to his message. In fact, the people need to listen to as large gamut of opinions as possible. That is how you make an informed decision. Hell, even Kucinich knows he will lose. He has endorsed Senator Obama.

I can honestly say that there is no way in hell you can make fun of Dennis without sounding like an immature asshole piece of shit.

Dennis is the most popular candidate and everyone knows it.
Hillary,Edwards,Obama, they all want the war to carry on until 2013, Dennis wanted them back within 3 months, that is what I call a reason to vote for him.

All the things from the topic starter of this post here that Rommel put is true, and that is all the reason I need for him to have my full support.

Also, if you believe what the media tells you, your vote means nothing to us because those of us who know better to vote for Dennis, we are the majority.

Dennis Kucinich for president yall!
Heres a video about his exlusion from Dennis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQo5ZrYb SM

Don't pay attention to these lil kids Rommel, they know that we're right, lets just keep the info flowing and not waste energy on these pathetic creatures.

Also Idiot-Finder, online polls? The debates are rigged, internet polls are rigged, Dennis wins almost every independent one, if you're that ignorant to believe the media modified polls, than you really are a fucking idiot, I'm done wasting time here.

Peace out Rommel.

At 1/6/08 05:38 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Don't pay attention to these lil kids Rommel, they know that we're right, lets just keep the info flowing and not waste energy on these pathetic creatures.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Oh, Shaggy, you always make me laff.

Hey shaggy, thanks for the video. It raises an interesting point. Disney might own ABC, but it does not own the airwaves. The People own the airwaves.

Also Facebook, one of the sponsors of the debate, polled Kucinich above the 5% limit to be on the Debate.

I don't know if Kucinich is the most popular candidate shaggy. My guess is you will get flamed for that.

Yeah but the media can just modify the polls how they please, that is why they are not the great allies of the American people they once were, on a poll from NBC I heard they scrapped twice n made a modified poll making it look as it Hillary Obama n Edwards were the front runners.

The moral is to not listen to the media, if the media rigs the election, all out hell will break loose, the people will riot through and overthrow the government, that is my prediction if all else fails.

The people will get what they want one way or another, that is my point.

Shaggy, do you have evidence for ANYTHING you post?

At 1/6/08 06:00 PM, K-RadPie wrote: Shaggy, do you have evidence for ANYTHING you post?

Evidence? heres a link about him scoring 77% in an independant poll.

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/homep age-items/%27long-shot%27-kucinich-score s-77%25-in-independent-poll/

At 1/6/08 06:04 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

At 1/6/08 06:00 PM, K-RadPie wrote: Shaggy, do you have evidence for ANYTHING you post?

Evidence? heres a link about him scoring 77% in an independant poll.

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/homep age-items/%27long-shot%27-kucinich-score s-77%25-in-independent-poll/

Becaue as we all know.

A poll on an website labeled Dennis for President has all the answers doesn't it.

Hey wait, I think I found a poll out there saying 4/5 people believe in Cheesus.

At 1/6/08 06:04 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

At 1/6/08 06:00 PM, K-RadPie wrote: Shaggy, do you have evidence for ANYTHING you post?

Evidence? heres a link about him scoring 77% in an independant poll.

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/homep age-items/%27long-shot%27-kucinich-score s-77%25-in-independent-poll/

"In national polls, more than 42% of Americans self-identify as independents."
So out of 77% of 42% the US populace voted for Kucinich.
Wow. *Eye Rollie*

The actual poll is here: http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/248 9/t/4823/content.jsp?content_KEY=3623, but it only reflects the opinions of independents. It does not reflect the position of the majority.

At 1/6/08 06:12 PM, RommelTJ wrote: The actual poll is here: http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/248 9/t/4823/content.jsp?content_KEY=3623, but it only reflects the opinions of independents. It does not reflect the position of the majority.

Ah there it is, thx.

At 1/6/08 06:19 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: ZOMG ITS A CONSPIRACY OH WAIT IT ISNT BECAUSE NO ONE CARES ABOUT HIM

This is why not many people here are worth talking to, so I'll just ignore you and hope that you grow some balls soon n realize the error of your ways, kid.

At 1/6/08 06:36 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

At 1/6/08 06:19 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: ZOMG ITS A CONSPIRACY OH WAIT IT ISNT BECAUSE NO ONE CARES ABOUT HIM

This is why not many people here are worth talking to, so I'll just ignore you and hope that you grow some balls soon n realize the error of your ways, kid.

And also, yes it is a conspiracy, do you have a problem believing that?

At 1/6/08 06:36 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: kid.

You know technically your still a kid.
Also as far as it goes on this forum, insulting someones knowledge compared to their age is a fallacy.

At 1/6/08 06:39 PM, SuperDeagle wrote:

At 1/6/08 06:36 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: kid.

You know technically your still a kid.
Also as far as it goes on this forum, insulting someones knowledge compared to their age is a fallacy.

Your point is?

At 1/6/08 06:42 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Your point is?

By attacking someones age you are not attacking what they stand for, you are attacking them personally. So instead of arguing their intelligence your arguing their physical attributes which I just also stated just happen to be that of your own.

Also, "This is why not many people here are worth talking to, so I'll just ignore you."
Is why so many people here hate you.

At 1/6/08 06:42 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

At 1/6/08 06:39 PM, SuperDeagle wrote:

At 1/6/08 06:36 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

Your point is?

Remove the log from your own eye before you point out the speck in someone elses.

At 1/6/08 06:45 PM, SuperDeagle wrote: Also, "This is why not many people here are worth talking to, so I'll just ignore you."
Is why so many people here hate you.

Uhm.... why would I care, my only goal here is to spread the word, to anyone just visiting this post, look at the later posts n you'll find out what you need to see, ignore this stupid banter.

At 1/6/08 06:49 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Uhm.... why would I care, my only goal here is to spread the word, to anyone just visiting this post, look at the later posts n you'll find out what you need to see, ignore this stupid banter.

Because this forum is to discuss politics not to propagate it irrationally.