The infallible Tehsis of Atheism

[SmilezRoyale]

The infallible theses of atheism, by Smilez Royale.

It seems while the western world is moving in the more progressive direction, they either lack the initiative or the access to the information, or simply the LOGIC of understanding that it is IMPERATIVE for true atheists to break away from the western thinking which was formulated based on false truths, which you will soon see is formulated based on thinking about things in the 'reverse' order.

I will use this time to explain with evolution and basic postulates that there are a series of western-culturally based misunderstandings about the nature of the world and how people need to start changing their thinking if we are to advance. Here are the postulates that are assumed as 'given' throughout the entirety of this essay....

1) The human specie and all life on this planet was created by natural selection and biogenesis. From a common ancestor yata-yata-yata
2) There is no god or any entity of intelligence like our own or beyond our own in the universe, and that the universe was not created for a deliberate reason, no god, no intelligent design.
3) Life was instead created because adamant laws of our universe existed so that it could. [if you need me to go into deeper explanation of this I will]
4) There are no ghosts, spirits, or karma, there is no field of intelligent energy, psychics are fake, and divination is impossible what you see is what you get. [so to speak]

I don't need to argue these things, since this is intended for an atheist audience who should NATURALLY already accept these things; if not, you are not a true atheist such as me [Hypothetically] in the case of ITA [infallible theses of atheism]. Discussing the validity of any of these will not, and MUST not be for discussion purposes, but can be in other discussions, once again, if you are an atheist; I need not explain them.

Now you will see why these are important, as we delve deeper into the meaning of why the infallible theses of atheism is going to be, by far, the most difficult of all infallible truths for humanity to accept as they continue in history.

I have descided, rather than force you to read a giant essay, i will allow you to debate my thesis, and i will debunk each question 1 by 1.

Now... All Acts that humans deem as inhumane, Rape, Murder, War, theft, as well as music, drugs, behaviors, cruelties, kindnesses, and the very human experience can be explained and neutralized.

By neutralized, i mean that it can be deemed as 'Explanatory' in other words, there is no 'evil' reason behind a persons actions, nor is what they do evil, because what they do is ENTIRELY logical based on the situation at the time, they are only evil for doing something which is adversed to the very same principals that we applied to.

What are these principles?

1) Action is, most generally, based on the causation of existence.

It's a very fancy way of saying that Humans perform acts such to complete 2 'general' tasks.

- Live long

Live long is a whole idea that all specie, particularly humans, will do things to enhance their interests in society, the interest being the acquisition of entities which I call 'wealth' designed either to prolong our lives, or make our lives more enjoyable.
Now, there is no written law that states this, just like evolution is an unwritten law, or any scientific law for that matter. However, it only makes sense that humans would naturally want to enhance their interests in society, but we MUST always use evolution to explain this, if humans were not interested in enhancing their interests, they would have died out a long time ago, not having the interests to become 'the best at survival'. As a result, humans surviving today exist for the purpose of prolonging their life spans because those with the mental capacity to increase their life spans are more apt to survive. Or you could look at it another way, finding ways to keep ourselves alive have prolonged our lifespan as a result of various changes in the human experience. And humans are naturally attracted to stimulus, which can be achieved by the acquisition of wealth.
Wealth is a whole term for things such as Better foods, Games, More comfortable living, etc, all of these are registered to the brain as 'good' because they are a positive stimulus. We will naturally find ways to do this for ourselves and for our Causational allies or individuals who we vest trust in for the enhancement of our own interests in turn for theirs. [Like an interspecies symbiotic relationship] Humans will naturally desire this 'wealth' and more wealth when existing wealth becomes 'the norm' or 'depleted in value' Similar to the effects of Vicodin. The need for stimulus may be coupled with natural evolutionary needs to be happy, since happiness on the general has shown medically to improve an individual's physical status. [Laughter reduces risks of heart attacks, we've all heard it, and it constantly makes us believe that there is a link between the Holistic human view of a link between what is good for humanity, and what makes us better at the acquisition of wealth at the same time] Even atheists are guilty of this thinking...

- Prosper

Prosper simply means that it is our natural desire to ensure that our genes get passed onto offspring, this is done by reproduction. If we didn't want to do this, we [as a specie] would be extinct. Prosperity is the ULTIMATE engine for humanities desire to ensure that their physical traits, as well as their entire culture is passed on and becomes dominant, this is done to the benefit of the possibility of the human race continuing onward, and is the reason why humans are alive and we didn't die out to be placed by another sentient specie that WOULD HAVE wanted to prosper. Prosperity is also the cause for human hostility to individuals who do not share their attributes, or at least, the reason why they are less inclined to forge causational allies.

Now that we understand that it is a human survival tendency to commit to these tasks, we need to know why they do them; and I will say this one last time. Human kind has since the beginning of time, looked at human reason backwards. We have always asked and told ourselves #1 "why do we exist?" the answer being "We exist to change our behaviors" such as religious movements of peace through adherence to a divine law code, or maybe something more tangible such as a government code, Which are, as most atheists believe, unrealistic [and this is true for the time being] But no one has ever thought about the fact that "Why do we exist." The answer being, "We exist because our behaviors have permitted it to be that way."

Many of you are thinking "Well that's ridiculous, human kind slaughters itself constantly, how can our behaviors of 'evil' ever POSSIBLY be the reason we exist. And I will answer all of those questions. As we use these theses to explain the nature of the human existence.

Prosperity, as well as a breakdown in the intentions of evolution compared to our growth rate, is the ultimate fuel source for what people today describe as 'the generation of sexually crazed teenagers'. I'll go into more detail about this later.

Debate me.

[SmilezRoyale]

PS. i can also prove that you are a total slave to creation.

[SmilezRoyale]

one last post script;

1) It should say "Infallible Theses of Atheism"

2) To reiterate, ask me a question or state how you think my belief is incorrect, and i shalt set you straight, this is easier than writing a 20 page essay covering as many topics as possible

[therealsylvos]

please tell me this was at least a homework assignment or something.

[XeroXTC]

That was interesting. I would like to know how I am a slave to creation.

So I ask you.

How am I?

[SizZlE666]

At 12/24/07 01:50 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote: created stuff like bacteria (life) for no reason whatsoever

Life was created by chance, and the life that was created was (arguably) the worst version of life ever.

out of nowhere (once again, meaninglessly) which in turn meaninglessly evolved into meaningless life

It refined itself from the first version of life.

which then for some reason evolved in to more advanced species.

It's called ninth grade biology, you should read it sometime.

Even though there was no reason for anything to evolve,

Better evolved species have more chance to spread their DNA.

everything just did.

See above.

Also, it was simultaneous

It wasn't.

(something that must have happened for life to advance, yet life is not unified

See "ecosystem".

because things like life being connected and such would mean that in SOME WAY there would be a God or unifying force with meaning,

How does God have any more meaning than an ecosystem?

which kind of means that it didn't happen yet it did and I'm not really sure if this should be in parentheses)

"Kind of means"? What are you trying to say here?

So after everything simultaneously evolved meaninglessly, things just split in to different species. Those species meaninglessly buttfucked some mutant retarded squirrels or some shit like that

Swearing won't disprove evolution, also, ninth grade science.

and made everything that there is today. Which means you, but you're totally meaningless, worthless, and pointless. You're not even an accident. Accidents are just human concepts.

So if by some crazy coincidence, my eye gets stabbed out by a copper wire that sticks out of the floor, it's a human concept?

So really there isn't anything to say. The end. Everything is meaningless.

I disagree.

UNLESS, you believe that you're not totally meaningless and we're here for a reason

How is God any more of a reason that science? What is it about God that just magically gives things purpose and makes them meaningful? Would it mean that if, I magically somehow absolutely disproved God, and christianity, etc. Then you would have no purpose left in life? Would every theist who heard this magical proof just systematically kill themselves?

and that we should actually enjoy our lives and stop endlessly discussing how pointless we are, not committing suicide for some unknown reason.

No human being is pointless.

My final conclusion is STFU.

My final conclusion is that telling people to "STFU" promotes ignorance.

[fahrenheit]

I think theists need to understand that just because science doesn't have ALL of the answers, it isn't necessarily wrong. I've seen people argue atheism by poking holes in some fundamental theories (like someone did here) but what they're really doing is trying to replace a "god" with science, and that just isn't true. Humans created science, and even though science has led us to a great understanding of everything, we don't know everything.

But science isn't god, it doesn't know everything just because it knows a lot. Which might be why some people remain theists to this day despite large amounts of evidence against it, because in theism there is at least something that is perfect. But in a atheism everyone/thing is in-perfect.

Oh, and on topic, I disagree with what the topic starter is saying.

[SadisticMonkey]

At 12/24/07 01:50 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote: UNLESS, you believe that you're not totally meaningless and we're here for a reason and that we should actually enjoy our lives and stop endlessly discussing how pointless we are, not committing suicide for some unknown reason.

HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I NEED TO SAY THIS.

Just because theology is more welcoming and favourable than accidental evolution, DOES NOT mean it is, or any more likely to be, correct.

[Alphabit]

At 12/24/07 12:11 AM, SmilezRoyale wrote: 1) The human specie and all life on this planet was created by natural selection and biogenesis. From a common ancestor yata-yata-yata

Ok.

2) There is no god or any entity of intelligence like our own or beyond our own in the universe, and that the universe was not created for a deliberate reason, no god, no intelligent design.

That is incorrect, most atheists agree that there is possibility for extraterrestrial life.

3) Life was instead created because adamant laws of our universe existed so that it could. [if you need me to go into deeper explanation of this I will]

Some athiests believe that the universe has always existsed and thus was never created.

[Earfetish]

At 12/24/07 02:24 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote: why?

There's no reason. Perhaps, one day, we'll discover an Nth-dimensional mathematical formula that explains space and time perfectly, but we haven't yet.

Your infinitely regressive 'why' questions eventually start to become invalid, and it is notable that you continually ask 'why' just so you can find some space to fill with 'God'.

If 'why' really is why you believe in God, and you're deeply interested in asking these infinitely regressive questions, maybe you should read a popular science book on the Big Bang. And evolution, too, apparently.

[Earfetish]

At 12/24/07 05:12 AM, Earfetish wrote:

At 12/24/07 02:24 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote: why?

It is worth pointing out the flaws in the answer, too (although you've probably heard them). Answering 'why' with 'because of something infinitely more complex and intelligent' is not an answer, it creates countless more questions (at which point, strangely, you stop asking 'why'). I have a deep suspicion that, if we were to go back far enough, we would not find something ultimately complex, but something ultimately simple.

[Lagerkapo]

At 12/24/07 05:18 AM, Earfetish wrote: I have a deep suspicion that, if we were to go back far enough, we would not find something ultimately complex, but something ultimately simple.

I happen to have a deep suspicion that infinite simplicity and infinite complexity are one and the same. Like drawing a perfect circle of infinite size; You start at a point, one point then you get multiple, nay infinite points until eventually you just end up back at zero with ONE perfect circle that allows the infinite points to become one cohesive line whose points are indistinguishable from eachother.

The metaphor doesn't back up the concept, just introduce it.

[JackPhantasm]

I don't understand what I'm supposed to debate.

At the end you tell me to debate you but the things I want to debate you say aren't debatable.

[Shaggytheclown17]

Uh... SmilezRoyale, are you insane?

You can't possibly believe all this shit when there is THAT MUCH out there that we don't know.
The human logic is too primitive to comprehend things such as the supernatural, hell, we didn't even know what stars wew made of until recently, not of gas but of an electrical charged substance called plasma.

Jeeze man, if you are going to make up shit, plz try not to make yourself seem like a miserable piece of shit in the toilet of life, just because you don't believe doesn't mean anyone else shouldn't also.

The fact that people get whats coming to them eventually is enough evidence for me to know that my energy/aura can scare the shit outa people without me even saying anything.
The way I live is the way I will live for the rest of my life, and I love my life, Iove myself, maybe you should look inside and reconnect with your spirit sometime.

[Shaggytheclown17]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT! chocolate-penguin YOU ARE FUCKING CORRECT!

[JackPhantasm]

At 12/24/07 04:11 AM, fahrenheit wrote:
Oh, and on topic, I disagree with what the topic starter is saying.

Science defines god imo.

[Earfetish]

At 12/24/07 06:17 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: You can't possibly believe all this shit when there is THAT MUCH out there that we don't know.

What an asshole you are being.

We know enough to know that every organised religion is incorrect; we know the universe is so massive and Earth so insignificant that it is plainly obvious 'everything' wasn't made so Jesus and Muhammed can walk around the desert. Screw the problem of evil, the size of the universe is enough for it to be plainly apparent it wasn't made for us by a benevolent God.

The only God-existing position that holds water (and can be frankly debated) is deism; the rest of y'all know the evidence is against you.

ShaggytheClown17 is a cock. Screw the First Cause, you're not gonna do any research on it anyway; where's your evidence for a God that cares? Does the universe not look like God doesn't care about us at all? If he doesn't care, then surely there's no afterlife?

I haaate when religious people pretend that they have the most likely explanation and atheists are missing out on something. Like being raised religious.

[JackPhantasm]

At 12/24/07 06:37 AM, Earfetish wrote:
ShaggytheClown17 is a cock. Screw the First Cause, you're not gonna do any research on it anyway; where's your evidence for a God that cares? Does the universe not look like God doesn't care about us at all? If he doesn't care, then surely there's no afterlife?

Afterlife could possibly exist with or without god because you never know alternate dimensions time warps etc.

Other than that I agree.

[Earfetish]

At 12/24/07 06:37 AM, Earfetish wrote: I haaate when religious people pretend that they have the most likely explanation and atheists are missing out on something. Like being raised religious.

I don't want to sound like a high-and-mighty dick, but tbh, atheists have evidence-based beliefs, letting discoveries and science speak for themselves, and the religious are presuppositional, re-interpreting or dismissing scientific discoveries to conform to their rigid worldview.

[JackPhantasm]

At 12/24/07 06:40 AM, Earfetish wrote:
I don't want to sound like a high-and-mighty dick, but tbh, atheists have evidence-based beliefs, letting discoveries and science speak for themselves, and the religious are presuppositional, re-interpreting or dismissing scientific discoveries to conform to their rigid worldview.

Evidence gathered from a tiny speck in a giant universe. Like you said.

[Shaggytheclown17]

At 12/24/07 06:40 AM, Earfetish wrote:

At 12/24/07 06:37 AM, Earfetish wrote: I haaate when religious people pretend that they have the most likely explanation and atheists are missing out on something. Like being raised religious.

I don't want to sound like a high-and-mighty dick, but tbh, atheists have evidence-based beliefs, letting discoveries and science speak for themselves, and the religious are presuppositional, re-interpreting or dismissing scientific discoveries to conform to their rigid worldview.

There really is no evidence that there isn't a God out there, so until your head explodes and your soul is ripped from your body from seeing God, I will remain happy in my belief of God, who is an awsome guy, he spared my brother from a drowning accident 8)

[Earfetish]

At 12/24/07 06:41 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Evidence gathered from a tiny speck in a giant universe. Like you said.

But it's still pretty good evidence. The thing with science is, all the theories fit together perfectly. And it's more than willing to say 'we don't know everything, indeed we don't know anything, but here's why we believe this, and here are our notes.' Whereas religion says 'we know everything, it's in this book, and God did it'.

I will grant you your beliefs / agnosticism / whatever being based on science, but you do seem again to be interpreting science selectively, so there's still the possibility of the afterlife in a parallel dimension, whereas I would say 'yes, that's a possibility, as is an afterlife The Matrix-style, or reincarnation, or becoming one with the universe, but what looks considerably more likely is, your brain stops working and your being dies.'

Despite only observing the universe from this insignificant speck, we've made some decent observations. It is true that I can't be 'sure' of anything, including God, until I know everything about 100% of the universe, and all other universes, but from what I know now, and what I can logically deduce, I can say that atheism looks the most likely.

[JackPhantasm]

At 12/24/07 06:49 AM, Earfetish wrote:

At 12/24/07 06:41 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Evidence gathered from a tiny speck in a giant universe. Like you said.

But it's still pretty good evidence. The thing with science is, all the theories fit together perfectly. And it's more than willing to say 'we don't know everything, indeed we don't know anything, but here's why we believe this, and here are our notes.' Whereas religion says 'we know everything, it's in this book, and God did it'.

I will grant you your beliefs / agnosticism / whatever being based on science, but you do seem again to be interpreting science selectively, so there's still the possibility of the afterlife in a parallel dimension, whereas I would say 'yes, that's a possibility, as is an afterlife The Matrix-style, or reincarnation, or becoming one with the universe, but what looks considerably more likely is, your brain stops working and your being dies.'

I just believe that everything is equally possible. It took me a while to get to this spot. But I'm happy with it.

Our brains percieve things a certain way, if they were bigger we might see spirits walking around. Maybe dimensions intermingle and we just can't see it yet.

Iunno m an. YOU'RE TOO REASONABLE. <3

[Shaggytheclown17]

Leme ask u a question, how the fuck did religion ever start?
Since cavemen times is a far back as I've heard,the earth had already been created when the race of Man came, how did we get here?
We couldn't ahve evolved from the apes cuz they're still here.
Give me one good reason why anyone should evengive notice to your opinion, there is no evidence that God doesnot exist, that everyone knows.

Read the reply chocolte-penguin wrote above.

[Earfetish]

At 12/24/07 06:55 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Iunno m an. YOU'RE TOO REASONABLE. <3

<3

like I've said, I don't give a damn about your beliefs, you've got your own religion (which is fantastic and totally supported by me) and it's proper religions that I don't like. But I did feel compelled to comment.

[Lagerkapo]

At 12/24/07 06:56 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Leme ask u a question, how the fuck did religion ever start?

Because we can't know what it's like to be dead, we attempt to say our conjectures are truth, and for some DUMB fucking reason people believe the conjecture as truth.

We couldn't ahve evolved from the apes cuz they're still here.

And Asian people and white people can't be in the same race because they're both here. Your logic is so fucking dumb it hurts.

Give me one good reason why anyone should evengive notice to your opinion, there is no evidence that God doesnot exist, that everyone knows.

Your whole reason for believing in god is that you define him in such a way as you can counter anything I say with "but he's all powerful, and you can't disprove him." Generally for someone to profess something as truth they use proof and reasoning, not repetitive and self-reliant logic, if the useless drivel you've presented can be called logic. The closest thing to an argument you can use is that "something had to create reality," and even then I can just say "then what created god?" and your argument's shot and fucked.

My whole reason for NOT believing in god is that you cannot POSSIBLY come up with one SPEC of ACTUAL evidence that doesn't rely on an assumption to prove his existence.

I can say eggs exist. I can show you a picture of eggs, describe where they come from, etc., but with god you just say "he just is, end of story," and ignore anything and everything you see that might break down your logic, which is just about everything anyone with common sense will tell you.

Point: Shut the fuck up noob and turn that nice brain you have on for once.

[Al6200]

At 12/24/07 01:50 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote: Atheism is the totally logical belief that everything came out of nowhere for no reason and exploded :into everythingness.

Theism is the totally logical belief that God came out of nowhere for no reason and exploded into everythingness. Then, for no reason, he decided to create a weaker and inferior race to worship him.

The something from nothing paradox is a serious problem, but I'll make it perfectly clear: neither Christianity nor atheism address it effectively. But at least atheism provides a logical framework for how human intelligence emerged. Christians just seem to avoid all logic and reasoning when it comes to the origins of God.

:The everythingness magically exploded and expanded more, making planets and you know, among :everything; everything. THe everything at this point is still totally meaningless. So all the everything :that is totally meaningless created the stars, planets, galaxies, things like black holes, worm holes, :energy, matter, atoms, particles, neurons, neutrons, elements, blah blah blah. The basic matter and :elements created stuff like bacteria (life) for no reason whatsoever

Its because that's what is dictated by the laws of physics. And life emerged because it can copy itself. Logically, if something can do that, there's bound to be a lot of it.

Oh yes, and life didn't start with bacteria - it was much simpler.

:out of nowhere (once again, meaninglessly) which in turn meaninglessly evolved into meaningless :life which then for some reason evolved in to more advanced species. Even though there was no

As the simple life forms absorbed specific types of energy and continued to reproduce, there became a niche for predators. Because DNA copying is imperfect, there are mutations and random changes over time. Since these changes affect reproductive fitness, some changes increase in frequency.

:reason for anything to evolve, everything just did.

There's plenty of reason. Organisms that are well suited to their environment thrive. Those that aren't die.

:Also, it was simultaneous (something that must have happened for life to advance, yet life is not :unified because things like life being connected and such would mean that in SOME WAY there would :be a God or unifying force with meaning, which kind of means that it didn't happen yet it did and I'm :not really sure if this should be in parentheses)

Life advanced because of random mutations and a variety of niches which allowed for a difference in reproductive fitness. This isn't rocket science. If I had a couple million Giraffes, and each year I killed the tallest 10% of the Giraffes, do you think they'd eventually get shorter?

There's nothing more to evolution than that. If I split the Giraffes into two communities, one which I continued to make shorter and one which I let grow, eventually they might be too different to be able to reproduce. At that point they'd be different species.

So after everything simultaneously evolved meaninglessly, things just split in to different species.

Not true, speciation (the development of new species) is a continuous process that is part of the broader evolutionary system.

:Those species meaninglessly buttfucked some mutant retarded squirrels or some shit like that and :made everything that there is today.

Huh?

:Which means you, but you're totally meaningless, worthless, and pointless.

More pointless than being created by a God who has no purpose but to make creatures who worship him and do his bidding?

:You're not even an accident. Accidents are just human concepts. So really there isn't anything to say. :The end. Everything is meaningless.

I suppose things can only have meaning if they're attached to something more powerful. I wonder if to you, everything is meaningless to God...

Ultimately, since the universe has not been around forever, intelligent life must've come from non-intelligent matter. Even Christians must acknowledge that God came from non-intelligent matter (making your meaning of life point moot).

UNLESS, you believe that you're not totally meaningless and we're here for a reason and that we :should actually enjoy our lives and stop endlessly discussing how pointless we are, not committing :suicide for some unknown reason.

So we should just ignore the truth to make some people happy? You think happiness is just living in a lie, full of denial.

[SlithVampir]

At 12/24/07 04:52 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I NEED TO SAY THIS.

A million more.

There's a reason that I'm done with religion topics.

People don't WANT to listen to reason, therefore, they will not.

Sense doesn't matter when you get told something is correct since birth, then a few radicals with the right idea try to tell you it's not.

[Al6200]

At 12/24/07 12:11 AM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

I will use this time to explain with evolution and basic postulates that there are a series of western-culturally based misunderstandings about the nature of the world and how people need to start changing their thinking if we are to advance. Here are the postulates that are assumed as 'given' throughout the entirety of this essay....

Could you try to make a clearer theses? As in something like "Evolution is false" or "Evolution is right", or anything along those lines. Don't dance around what you're trying to say. Say it.

1) The human specie and all life on this planet was created by natural selection and biogenesis. :From a common ancestor yata-yata-yata

Yep

2) There is no god or any entity of intelligence like our own or beyond our own in the universe, and :that the universe was not created for a deliberate reason, no god, no intelligent design.

Most people would not agree with that. Given the sheer number of planets in the universe, it is extremely likely that there is alien life which is near or exceeding human intelligence.

3) Life was instead created because adamant laws of our universe existed so that it could. [if you :need me to go into deeper explanation of this I will]

Life is just some weird formation of hydrogen and carbon that occurs on the surface of tiny little rocks. On a cosmic scale, life is extremely rare and insignificant. The amount of mass, even on the Earth, dedicated to life pales in comparison to the amount of mass in even the smallest stars.

Yet obviously the laws of physics allow life since it is here.

4) There are no ghosts, spirits, or karma, there is no field of intelligent energy, psychics are fake, :and divination is impossible what you see is what you get. [so to speak]

Yep.

Now you will see why these are important, as we delve deeper into the meaning of why the infallible :theses of atheism is going to be, by far, the most difficult of all infallible truths for humanity to accept :as they continue in history.

Probably.

I have descided, rather than force you to read a giant essay, i will allow you to debate my thesis, and :i will debunk each question 1 by 1.

Your thesis needs to be clearer, but other than that, okay.

[Brick-top]

At 12/24/07 08:10 AM, Al6200 wrote:

At 12/24/07 01:50 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote: Atheism is the totally logical belief that everything came out of nowhere for no reason and exploded :into everythingness.

Theism is the totally logical belief that God came out of nowhere for no reason and exploded into everythingness. Then, for no reason, he decided to create a weaker and inferior race to worship him.

The something from nothing paradox is a serious problem, but I'll make it perfectly clear: neither Christianity nor atheism address it effectively. But at least atheism provides a logical framework for how human intelligence emerged. Christians just seem to avoid all logic and reasoning when it comes to the origins of God.

Oh I love that argument. They say "It's impossible to come from nothing" and then offer no explanation on Gods origins or creation.

From a theists stand point, the only logical way to explain the creation of God is that God must have had a more superior creator, and then that creator must of had an even more superior creator.....yet what happens when you get to the front of the line? How do you explain the creator that created them all? Did he "come from nothing"? No, impossible.

lol