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At 12/24/07 12:43 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: The funny thing is, every single person who voted me as dishonest has been caught in lies by me before.

Guilty. Fuck you.

Funny thing really--
Cellar said that I had no morals and I was a very evil person.

And then he goes and usurps MY nomination...
I mean... who else can say they've aborted fetuses with his penis while reciting passages the Necronomicon and lyrics from the Spice Girls?

Who else???

*sigh*
the fli buzzes away--

At 12/24/07 05:18 AM, fli wrote: Funny thing really--
Cellar said that I had no morals and I was a very evil person.

That's because you brought up your dead son in an argument with me... and then you claimed to other people that I said "cruel" things about him and yet I never did.

That's pretty fucked up.

Oh, and that was after you accused me of being racist in an argument about illegal immigration... only to then go and call me "half-terrorist" in reference to my Arab ancestry.

And yet, of course, due to your mod-sucking position, you got away with that now didn't you? Even though I got banned for simply defending myself, remember?

Ah the irony is so grand.

Wow, people here get way to worked up over suck stupid shit, I mides well stay out of it cuz its prolly all u guys have in life.
No offense though lol

lol I don't even care that much about the environment

although I suppose I am somewhat knowledgable on it

And I've only properly started posting in Politics for like 2 months

anyway thanks guys :)

due to your mod-sucking position

Haha. I love how I can make one statement and incite a whole mob against you.....

And then there's the Mod-in-the-pocket conspiracy theory.....

Ooh man, I still got it!

Merry Christmas Pariah.

You not only had commentary in YOUR voting post, but you created a completely different post, which included NO votes, just in order to point your finger at me.

I do like the fact you think that's "ironic". How would you have liked me to inform you? Through PM? On your NG page?

The irony is that in order to inform you of the rules (again), I had to post to tell you (again).

Fight fire with fire. It's a metaphor!

I also like the fact that you glossed over the part where I said everyone else's commentary was rather neutral, whereas yours was strictly negative...... ;)

Guys, you realize that you're actually using time to get into an argument over the rules of where to post what in a made-up awards vote for an online politics forum, right?

That's bad enough already, but on top of that, it's Christmas eve. Come on.

I'd just like to say that Earfetish shouldn't be awarded anything at all because he listens to Gunther.

Also, Elfer is Canadian. Y'know, just pointing out facts, doing my best to keep the electorate well-informed. Just like Hillary Clinton says "Barack Obama might be a Muslim" I say: Watch out, Elfer is Canadian.

At 12/25/07 12:44 AM, Empanado wrote: I'd just like to say that Earfetish shouldn't be awarded anything at all because he listens to Gunther.

Also, Elfer is Canadian. Y'know, just pointing out facts, doing my best to keep the electorate well-informed. Just like Hillary Clinton says "Barack Obama might be a Muslim" I say: Watch out, Elfer is Canadian.

That's it! You slippery Chileans have bamboozled me for the last time!

At 12/23/07 12:18 AM, Ravariel wrote: Get someone to nom you for best newcomer... cuz Sab seems to be running away with that one. After that, it's just a case of getting more posts under your belt. Though, from what I've seen, you might actually rival Wolven for the Bill O. award soon enough.

I'm wondering what's up with that. I'm not a conservative. (Though Billy boy's not either)

The entire award and the voting for it seems flawed.

You know, I think people are being unfair to cellardoor.

Nominated for:
Most Overrated User
Least Helpful Poster
Robert Novak Award (for no morals, I won't even comment on the award name)

Cellar is willing to stand up for himself against multiple people and will provide evidence to back himself up. I've seen him debate down 4 or 5 of the boards beat debaters and win. because he simply knows what he's talking about on certain subjects. He is one of the boards smartest members, yet he is up for three of the most disrespectful awards we have.

That's ridiculous.

At 12/24/07 05:56 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Wow, people here get way to worked up over suck stupid shit, I mides well stay out of it cuz its prolly all u guys have in life.

Better than fapping over a half naked jew like you do.

At 12/25/07 07:08 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/24/07 05:56 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Wow, people here get way to worked up over suck stupid shit, I mides well stay out of it cuz its prolly all u guys have in life.

Better than fapping over a half naked jew like you do.

OMG you intolerable bastard, burn in hell.

*facepalm*

What the hell is wrong with all of you?

It's the fucking holidays!

With the Awards this year, I attempted to instill a sense of playfulness and camraderie; not jealousy, hatred and shallowness.

Obviously Newgrounds as a whole is not ready to take a step in the right direction.

I am considering ending this thing as a whole, and not running it next year.

Congratulations, you fucking morons.

Fuckinhg Christ....

Merry Christmas.

r-g ;

At 12/25/07 03:04 AM, WolvenBear wrote: That's ridiculous.

It's a nomination--
he's not voted on yet.

But-- it may look he may take at least 3 titles this year, and I hardly see it unfair if people are voting on it. If a bunch of people are saying he's a dickhead... there maybe a possibility he's a dickhead. Not that there aint a possibility where he's mistood or whatever. And he can change it if he just turn down the flame by a few degrees, and that's just it. Doesn't mean he can't defend himself-- just means he ought not to be a dickhead about it and then feel upset about being nominated for the 3 awards for dickheadedness.

Look-- there are more people similar to Cellar's ideas and beliefs, and they aren't as blrg about it. Proteas is the nicest guy you'll meet, and he'll joke with you-- but he's always a friend in the end. Doesn't matter if he tells me a gay joke, or border jumping joke. He's cool enough to know when to be doing that. And everyone knows that I'm gay and the son of illegal immigrants. I mean-- couldn't we be any different? One is White Socially Conservative Southerner of a strong religious background... and the other is a Gay Latino Atheist with strong Liberal roots. Yet-- he's one of the people I adore most.

But Cellar-- there's just no way to be friends with him with that attitude, unless you're willing to be exactly like him.

I'll be checking on the results... that's for sure.

At 12/25/07 03:04 AM, WolvenBear wrote:

That's ridiculous.

Slightly it is.
But then again, everything is.

I'm not putting down his intelligence or ability to respond efficiently and in a legible manner.

But Cellardoor does have the ability to antagonize people quite easily.

Whether he does it knowingly or subconsciously is beyond my ability to know.

At 12/25/07 03:04 AM, WolvenBear wrote:
That's ridiculous.

Way to get outraged over something unimportant.

It's just a bullshit forums award for fuck's sake. Cellar is big boy, he's not going to get all upset over it.

He'll probably just find it amusing, and see it as all the idiots he proved wrong being pissed at him.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE

At 12/24/07 05:43 PM, Imperator wrote:

due to your mod-sucking position

Haha. I love how I can make one statement and incite a whole mob against you.....

Of people who, just like you, are angry due to prior arguments in which they've been proved wrong.

And then there's the Mod-in-the-pocket conspiracy theory.....

Which you yourself have claimed considering you've actually admitted it before.

At 12/24/07 05:51 PM, Imperator wrote:

You not only had commentary in YOUR voting post, but you created a completely different post, which included NO votes, just in order to point your finger at me.

I do like the fact you think that's "ironic". How would you have liked me to inform you? Through PM? On your NG page?

1) It's not your job to inform people, you're not a mod.
2) You mentioned the discussion topic, if you were really concerned about keeping the discussion in here, you wouldn't have made a post in that thread.
3) You, and others, had done the very thing you had criticized me for doing.
4) You perpetuated the off-topic nature of that thread by posting what you did, thus showing A) you are hideously hypocritical and B) you had no desire to adhere to or support the very rules you thought you were in a position to warn others about.

The irony is that in order to inform you of the rules (again), I had to post to tell you (again).

And the irony is that you broke those very rules (again), did exactly what I did (again), and managed to do the very thing you criticized, as you criticized it.

At 12/25/07 10:28 PM, Grammer wrote:

He throws out insults and uses derogatory language because you hurt his ego.

You completely avoid the topic, and eventually run away from it, when you get proved wrong... because you got your ego hurt.

He called me a pathetic piece of shit because he thought I was calling him a liar (I didn't, but he was misinformed)

Not only did you question my honesty, but even after it was showed that I was neither lying nor "misinformed" you continued to question it anyway.

and will provide evidence to back himself up. I've seen him debate down 4 or 5 of the boards beat debaters and win.

You don't win a debate because you beat down the person with the same argument they already debunked

In the cases with you, someone wins the argument by validating their position more so than the other person.

When I literally prove someone's claims wrong, and they run away from the thread shortly thereafter, it's safe that they lost, and felt that they lost to the point they ran away and never came back even though they put quite a bit of effort into the argument.

and you certainly don't win a debate simply because you got the last word.

When you get the last word after the other person was proved wrong and ceased arguing because they knew they couldn't continue to do so without entirely ignoring the topic, they lost.

Quite frankly, I'm even sketchy on the idea that you can "win" a debate, let alone cellardoor having the mental capacity to "win" one.

Grammer, now you're just lying to yourself.

At 12/26/07 12:51 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Of people who, just like you, are angry due to prior arguments in which they've been proved wrong.

Lol, get over yourself.

Which you yourself have claimed considering you've actually admitted it before.

I have mods who do my whims, too. I'm also part of the Illuminati.

And the irony is that you broke those very rules (again), did exactly what I did (again), and managed to do the very thing you criticized, as you criticized it.

What are you, 8? "Waaaah, he's just as bad as me cuz he shush'd me for talking during quiet time!"

You completely avoid the topic, and eventually run away from it, when you get proved wrong... because you got your ego hurt.

Wow, you're a douchebag... congratulations on running away with every negative award we can think of.

Not only did you question my honesty, but even after it was showed that I was neither lying nor "misinformed" you continued to question it anyway.

God forbid someone question your "honesty". After someone throws that gauntlet, all bets are off! </sarcasm>

In the cases with you, someone wins the argument by validating their position more so than the other person.

Lol... so juvenile and yet such a large ego.

When I literally prove someone's claims wrong, and they run away from the thread shortly thereafter, it's safe that they lost

Here's an idea... I'll never respond to another post of yours ever again, and you can tell yourself that you've won every single one by default, okay? And hey, to do that you don't even have to post, because just by thinking that you disagree with me, you will have automatically "won" any "debate" that might have occurred.

Deal?

When you get the last word after the other person was proved wrong and ceased arguing because they knew they couldn't continue to do so without entirely ignoring the topic, they lost.

Lol. Remember, he who shouts loudest and longest wins the debate!

Quite frankly, I'm even sketchy on the idea that you can "win" a debate, let alone cellardoor having the mental capacity to "win" one.

Grammer, now you're just lying to yourself.

No, my friend... you are. And everyone but you seems to realize that. If you want to know what the true purpose of debate is, then just ask. Nicely.

loltastic

At 12/26/07 02:02 AM, Ravariel wrote: Lol, get over yourself.

The funny thing is that you know it's true.

And the irony is that you broke those very rules (again), did exactly what I did (again), and managed to do the very thing you criticized, as you criticized it.

What are you, 8? "Waaaah, he's just as bad as me cuz he shush'd me for talking during quiet time!"

You're backing imperator even though I'm sure you realize that what he did was completely and utterly hypocritical. Not only did he do the very thing that he criticized me for... before he criticized me for it, but he did it WHILE he criticized me for it.

It shows that he wasn't thinking when he made that post, but entered into it specifically to start a fight and make a jab at what he thought was an opportune moment.

Actually read what happened.

Wow, you're a douchebag... congratulations on running away with every negative award we can think of.

That doesn't bother me at all, in fact I think it's entertaining because almost every single person who voted for me as having no integrity or being overrated has an extensive history themselves of getting proved wrong, caught lying, and so forth... by me. So there's no surprise there that they need a little revenge.

Everyone who doesn't have a similar history to you, Imperator, d2kvirus, Grammer, fli, etc... tended to vote honestly, and apparently due to the honesty of a few people, I managed to get a few votes in areas that actually talk about someones knowledge of an issue.

So if you actually think that someone should be affected by the votes... then you're not thinking clearly. You know, as I do, that a lot of people were voting simply due to bias and not due to an honest assessment of certain users' knowledge. You know, as I do, that some people have such an extensive history of fights with me that even if I was somehow the undeniable master of some random subject that nobody else ever talked about, they still would have voted for something else out of angst.

And if you cared to read what I posted earlier, the ENORMOUS irony of Imperator voting me for the person who makes up bullshit considering I've caught him BLATANTLY LYING a few times. He needs revenge, so he voted for me in that area even though he knows that he's a blatant, compulsive liar.

Lol... so juvenile and yet such a large ego.

So you're playing that way.

You're old... and yet so childish.

You're a 29 year old student who perpetually stalks a 21 year old user just because you and your similarly dimwitted compadres are bitter about former debates you've lost horribly.

You're 29, yet you're such a coward that the only time you ever enter arguments with me, someone 8 years younger than you, is when I'm already locked into arguments with other people.

When I literally prove someone's claims wrong, and they run away from the thread shortly thereafter, it's safe that they lost

Here's an idea... I'll never respond to another post of yours ever again

Yeah, I'd like that.

and you can tell yourself that you've won every single one by default, okay?

If you ACTUALLY argued an actual issue with me I'd have no problem with you. But the thing is that you don't ever do that, you jump in the middle of other arguments and focus your complete and total attention on me personally while ignoring the context of the discussion.

The few times that you do actually put a bit of weight behind the actual issue, you tend to lose. And the same goes for Imperator, fli, and Grammer most notably. The fact that you guys devote enormous amounts of effort just to talk about me personally, shows that you're bitter about something. If I was really just some prick, I'd get ignored rather than be made into the center of attention.

But as is a trend, you guys devote several posts to cellardoor6 the individual whenever you get the chance.

And this will happen in this thread yet again. It will be me against 3 or 4 users who will jump at the opportunity, and the funny thing is, probably all of them will be the same people that do it all the time, who coincidentally happen to be people that got proved wrong quite a few times in the past.

I'm anticipating some more "cellardoor6, cellardoor6, cellardoor6" bullshit from Ravariel.

He's fucking obsessed with me.

At 12/25/07 03:04 AM, WolvenBear wrote: You know, I think people are being unfair to cellardoor.

Nominated for:
Most Overrated User
Least Helpful Poster
Robert Novak Award (for no morals, I won't even comment on the award name)

I don't see whats wrong with that, they all seem to fit him quite well

At 12/26/07 03:21 AM, Musician wrote:

I don't see whats wrong with that, they all seem to fit him quite well

Hai cellardoor this guy is pickin on u to you should pwn him lolololol

At 12/26/07 02:02 AM, Ravariel wrote: Here's an idea... I'll never respond to another post of yours ever again, and you can tell yourself that you've won every single one by default, okay? And hey, to do that you don't even have to post, because just by thinking that you disagree with me, you will have automatically "won" any "debate" that might have occurred.

;
You going to try this idea RAV?
I know it works for me ;)

Lol. Remember, he who shouts loudest and longest wins the debate!

;
Which is the whole reason to ignore a person like that.Why stress about the views put forward by someone who can't ever use their own experience(probably doesn't have much) but are more than happy to put up the web pages of others, no matter if they are true or not as the only source with any merit.

The best part is whenever you see their icon, you just skip to the next one. (sure does make reading through some of the long threads so much quicker)

You know, someone should make a flash movie based upon a NG Politics Forum Award show.

I can see it now...the glitz, the glamour...the blood from everyone beating each other up!

Anyway, I guess it wouldn't be a true politics award if there was not forum politics involved...

Which you yourself have claimed considering you've actually admitted it before.

I have a mod in my pocket? Are you sure I didn't just say that sarcastically?

Hahaha, and the conspiracy grows......

I should use that mod favor right now and have your account frozen!!!

***POOOF****

Mwahahaha!

At 12/25/07 03:50 PM, reviewer-general wrote: *facepalm*

What the hell is wrong with all of you?

It's the fucking holidays!

With the Awards this year, I attempted to instill a sense of playfulness and camraderie; not jealousy, hatred and shallowness.

People are enjoying it, and does it matter that some people are arguing? Should you base everything on the posts of a few people? It's because those of us not arguing aren't making long encapsulating rants filled with profanities and personal insults, so you pay more attention to those posts rather than the more ordinary ones making it appear a little more skewed. Even so what does that anger prove? Zeal. It ain't all bad.