Dennis Kucinich excluded fromdebate

[Shaggytheclown17]

Dennis Kucinich was excluded from the democratic debate in Iowa, they said they did it because he doesn't have an office there, even though the 9th republican candidate doesn't have one either but was allowed to go.
This whole thing is very fishy, you see a video about Hillary Clinton talking about rigging the thing to exclude people from the debates, and now they obviously have.

There is a video about it too on youtube, heres the link where a youtuber tried to fund out why Dennis was excluded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9-xNwu4 jY&feature=PlayList&p=213F02151FC47B51&i ndex=13

Here is the link to the video of Hillary Clinton talking about rigging the debate.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD C1KTzsV0c&feature=PlayList&p=213F02151FC 47B51&index=9

You hear the word conspiracy in this video, said by a woman at the Iowa democratic office saying that their office had nothing to do with the debate.
I would like to hear feedback on this because it seems like corruption has come to a very high level in the media area, but still, it wont stop people from voting for him.
The people plotting against him are obviously afraid of him, the power of his words, and the truth he speaks to everyone about what must be done to heal America.

[Secretsauce]

Dude fuck Dennis Kucinich. Normally I don't take shots like this but for him I'll make an exception. I happen to live in that assholes congressional district and while areas like Lakewood, OH are turning into an armpit, this guy is out campaigning for president in Hawaii. When he's not busy doing that, he's over in Syria telling the world how much America sucks (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic le.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57506).

The man was nearly recalled from his post as mayor of Cleveland in 1978 (http://ech.case.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?
id=RE1) and hasn't really helped out the region since.

To address your initial point though, I'm not sure if there was a "conspiracy" to remove Dennis Kucinich from the debate or if there are rules in the party that excluded him. Either way, I'm not losing sleep over it.

[Shaggytheclown17]

Heres another video, maybe it will openyour eyeson why Dennis is being hidden so much and how serious this problem really is, a video by a guyin youtube, ManilaRyceTLM, he tells shit like it is man, its fucking scary.
Dennis Kucinich was excluded from more than the debate, from people's view on who should be president, distorted by the media tomake Hillary and Obama look like the leaders in the race.
Corporate media is not your freind.
Dennis Kucinich is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6o2XlckN ig

[Jizzlebang]

To restate what Kucinich said, It's really sad they have to go behind everyones back (assuming that this really happened) to make the debate smaller. While it may be just a way to make the debates more effective, it could easily become a way of tactically excluding other candidates which are gaining popularity

[Shaggytheclown17]

Well said, but it obviously is being used to exclude the more popular people, just look at how they treated Ron Paul in the debate before Iowa.

[SmilezRoyale]

Because every poll is made up, shaggy, why not make your own? [Internet poles don't work btw, you actually have to call a few ten thousand people]

[Shaggytheclown17]

At 12/16/07 10:07 AM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Because every poll is made up, shaggy, why not make your own? [Internet poles don't work btw, you actually have to call a few ten thousand people]

So you agree that Dennis Kucinich should be president? Why the fuck are there still people talking about not voting for him jsut because the media sais Hillary n Obama are the front runners, if you vote for a candidate you don't like than you are just feeding the wildfire that is Corporate media.
If you don't vote your heart, your heart never wins.

Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul will win by a landslide no matter what kind of voting fraud they try to come up with, they will have to cancel the election and seal their own fate.

[Elfer]

At 12/16/07 05:53 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul will win by a landslide no matter what kind of voting fraud they try to come up with, they will have to cancel the election and seal their own fate.

Dennis Kucinich would not carry the angry redneck vote, which is extremely important in America. Ron Paul would win in a landslide, Kucinich would probably lose marginally to some republican.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

ZOMG ITS A CONSPIRACY GET RON PAUL AND ALEX JONES ITS THE ILLUMINATI AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE IN KAHOOTS!!!!

[RommelTJ]

It is really a shame that those stupid debates are so biased.

Luckily for Kucinich, the smart Democrats will still vote for him.

[Empanado]

I don't know much bout American elemections and their canundinates, but I am certain of one thing about this Kucinich fella: I'd fuck his wife.

[MortifiedPenguins]

Maybe it's just because people have finally realized that rat bastard that Kucinich is, and have seen that his chance of winning are practically nill.

[Idiot-Finder]

At 12/16/07 10:28 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Maybe it's just because people have finally realized that rat bastard that Kucinich is, and have seen that his chance of winning are practically nill.

http://www.amiright.com/parody/misc/scre aminjayhawkins189.shtml

[seventy-one]

You know, its sort of his fault. He should have spoken out when Mike Gravel got excluded, instead he stood pat, and what do you know? They're getting him next. If it were truly a matter of principle he would have fought for Gravel's inclusion till the end, now he allowed a precedent that eventually took him out of the debates.

[CaptainChip]

Whos Dennis Kucinich?

[tony4moroney]

At 12/16/07 04:44 AM, Secretsauce wrote:

The man was nearly recalled from his post as mayor of Cleveland in 1978

Because they were morons. He refused to sell the utilities which in retrospect have saved the city hundreds of millions of dollars to this day. They even renounced their previous convictions about him and said he was one of the best things that ever happened to Cleveland, hell even the mafia wanted to kill him because they had an involvement in the privatization.

[Shaggytheclown17]

Anyone who does not support Dennis Kucinich should not be replying to this, I made this to inform people who support him that the media n all those other fuckers have gotten to defensive towards Dennis, that they have actually started trying to take him out of the only things he is shown in, the media says nothing about him even though he is obviously the better of all the democratic candidates.

If you believe what the media tells you, you are more gullible than America was when Bush told us that the only way to protect our freedom was to take it away with the patriot act and other laws like the warratnless wiretapping and the one where they can take a US citizen and put them in jail for no reason without trial.

Anyone who puts negative or insulting replies here clearly does not want America to be free, you dont want Dennis to be president? Well too bad, Hillary, Obama, and Edwards are being knocked out of their smugness souly because of the truth that Dennis is the biggest threat they have.
And don't get all defensiven say stupid things like "oh im a nazi and I dont liek freedom" or " fuck you man, blah blah blah is the best liar in the race so Dennis hasn't a chance."

Grow the fuck up, the least any of you little kids on this site can do is show some respect for the common good people who are trying to break the infernal nightmare that is corporate media and the illegal war in Iraq. Just because I believe 9/11 was an inside job is not a reason to plug ur ears to anything i say, Dennis Kucinich actually plans on making a full reinvestigation on the incident and hopefully the real truth will be known by everyone.

This topic is about the unfairness that the media is going about the election, Dennis Kucinich and any other popular candidate are being excluded from almost any news station, you hear nothing about the new things Dennis or Ron are doing do you? The only place I do is on youtube, god bless that fucking site.
So unless you are brainwashed with what the media has told you or too overcome with fear to think anyone but Dennis Kucinich could restore America to its rightful order, or being payed by the evil candidates like Hillary and Edwards, tellme what you think about Dennis being excluded from the debate.

Lets trade ideas about how those little bastards are going to get busted for rigging the debates and planting questions. If you want to hate Dennis Kucinich, you will have to hate him for standing up for our constitutional amendments, standing up for the shrinking middle class, standing up consistently to the warmongers voting against the war from the start, and making a resolution to impeach the evil scum we know as Dick Cheny.

[Shaggytheclown17]

At 12/16/07 08:21 PM, RommelTJ wrote: It is really a shame that those stupid debates are so biased.

Luckily for Kucinich, the smart Democrats will still vote for him.

Thank you RommelTJ for those kind words, may more people soon realize what is very simple for you and I to understand that Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul, are the only chance America has to get out of war, get out of debt, and get our freedom back. Ron Paul though voted for the patriot act,so did the other candidates but Dennis. Hmmm, so lets see, msot of the "leading" canidates as the media tells us, want the war to last up to 2013,by that time I suspect we would be in yet another economic depression.

So lets weigh the options shall we? Vote republican, start WWIII. Vote not for Dennis Democrat, have war last 5 more years. vote Dennis Kucinich, have war end immediately and safely bring troops home, restore freedom to the people, and rid America of corrupt government.

Hmmm....choices.... I choose to Vote Dennis Kucinich, If anyone disagrees with me, please tellme why, and do not put sarcastic or insulting replies to this, you will dishonor yourself in whatever evil you stand for, just tell me why exactly Dennis shouldn't be president, if there is none, than don't reply. Especially if you just think the media will decide or it doesn't matter so you just vote wrongly anyway, you practically give up your freedom then.

[public-enemy1]

At 12/18/07 02:17 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Ron Paul though voted for the patriot act,so did the other candidates but Dennis.

Somethings wrong with this sentence..

[Shaggytheclown17]

uh..... what is wrong?

[public-enemy1]

At 12/18/07 02:33 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: uh..... what is wrong?

Paul did not vote for the Patriot Act.

[Shaggytheclown17]

Hmmm, I dunno, I'll have to check on that, I'm quite sure he did but I could be wrong, thanks for telling me of ur concern.

[Shaggytheclown17]

Oh, hmm. ok, he didn't vote for it.

[SlithVampir]

At 12/18/07 02:17 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

Hmmm....choices.... I choose to Vote Dennis Kucinich, If anyone disagrees with me, please tellme

Alright, bub.

We have the same candidate, which we have to be compared. Cut the conspiracy bullshit.

Not just 9/11, this is not a conspiracy, either.

The corporations don't like the K-man, so they looked for a weakness.

Dennis Kucinich will not win. I support him anyway, because he's right.

The simple truth is, America will elect a Hillary, Obama, or Edwards (Edwards, optimally). This is good, anyway, people will see that our policies make more sense, and elect a Kucinich-like candidate.

Kucinich, or one like, will be elected in our lifetimes.

[SmilezRoyale]

1) 'Cancel the election' is going to win me your soul Shag

2) Fox news had Dennis on as [i think] the first democratic candidate to host on their show. [I think sean Hannity did it] I am a right wing fascist to a degree that makes ann coulter look moderate; but even i know that fox news is biased; and my guess is, they would most want a democratic candidate on their show that was as hapless and extremist as you could find.

The fact that he got on the show, solidifies my belief that he cannot win this election. I like some of ron pauls ideas, but i don't beleive he has 'a snow balls chance' either.

[SmilezRoyale]

Just because i beleive that the apocalypse is coming is not a good reason to ignore me!

[SlithVampir]

At 12/18/07 06:31 PM, Grammer wrote:

At 12/18/07 02:02 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Just because I believe 9/11 was an inside job is not a reason to...

Holy crap, you're batshit insane.

You see why I have a problem with this kid? He makes me look WORSE!

[Shaggytheclown17]

To even argue with me over such an easy topic tells me how miserable some of your must be in life, if you don't believe that Dennis Kucinich, the only man that can do all he sais he will do, cannot win.
You sell yourself to evil now, that is a sin, you fail at fighting the evil that is threatening to overturn the world into an all out war, you fail to enforce your right to choose good over evil.
Mark my words all of you who laughingly say that Dennis has no chance of winning just because you say he doesn't, you will all know the true meaning of pain one of these days, you will know the true meaning of retribution and justice, I assure you.

I give all of you one last chance to reconsider, before I go quiet, and you left in the dark, with no one to shout insults to in disbelief of the truth, just you, and the mistakes you have made.

[tony4moroney]

Lol what? Too funny shaggy =]

[public-enemy1]

ouch

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