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Posted at: 12/14/07 02:29 PM

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At 12/14/07 02:12 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Like at some points it seemed like TJ was schizo and the killer was actually him.

I didn't pick up on that at all...maybe you are inferring that from his unwillingness to go back to the crime scene? I did wonder about that since that came up several times, otherwise what was the point of them discussing it.

If the movie is a dream, then the ending does make sense. Otherwise it's a very abrupt ending with basically no resolution. Still a great movie either way.

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Posted at: 12/14/07 02:30 PM

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the border is definitely no country for old man

that much I defiinitely understood


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At 12/14/07 02:29 PM, CaptainBob wrote: If the movie is a dream, then the ending does make sense. Otherwise it's a very abrupt ending with basically no resolution. Still a great movie either way.

It depends on how you look at it. I see it as Tommy Lee Jones' character being the primary protagonist, even though his character was hardly in the movie. The events in the movie are more evidence of the overall point he's trying to put forth, and the ending is a symbolic showing of how he feels detachment.

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Posted at: 12/14/07 03:20 PM

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Its pretty cool but not as cool as I Am Legend.

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Posted at: 12/14/07 08:40 PM

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At 12/14/07 11:41 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:
Tommy Lee Jones has a dream. This dream is the entirity of the movie, except at the end, where he wakes up, he's already retired. So obvoiuslly a retired man is going to dream about not being retired and have nightmares about crazy killers with cow guns.

I don't care how old this thread is, but I have to clear a few things up:

IT WASN'T A DREAM.
It's called an indeterminate ending. The reader / viewer is up to interpret how it ended. TLJ's character is just making an allusion to the theme of the entire film with his dream. He mentions being ready to follow his father into death and meet with him. (symbolically, of course.)

The entire movie is filled with symbolism, among other literary elements (after all, if you've read the book, the movie pretty much is word for word from it.) The most obvious being Chigurh (or whatever),
He's dressed in black, kills randomly, and has no apparent moral compass whatsoever. He represents death.

Why is this significant? TLJ's character kind of smacks us over the head with it: He does not want actively pursue death, or Chigur. (Chigur is often refered to as being impossible to kill, and compared to the bubonic plague. TLJ avoids him despite being a police officer.) Thus, TLJ's character does not accept death until the very end, after he retires and realizes his own mortality.

I could go into so much other crazy ass detail about allegories and symbolism, but that would take forever.

And my take on things:

The wife of Llewelyn is killed. The reason is because Chigurh promised Llewelyn he would unless Llewelyn was willing to give up his own life and the money, which Chigurh gets at the end anyways. Also, on the way out of the house, Chigurh checks his boots for blood, as he does a few other times in the movie.

The scene where the sheriff returns to the crime scene is rather troubling to me. My interpretation is that the sheriff either hallucinated his worst fear of confronting Chigurh, which seems more likely, or that Chigurh escapes through the bathroom window (Hence TLJ checking the lock).

There was no climactic fight scene because:
1. It's too cliche and would not have fit very well in the movie.
2. The veiwer doesn't develop sympathy for the main character at all, he's bitter, stern, and unemotional throughout. A dramatic fight scene at the end would have been pretentious.

And I've only seen the movie one time :\


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Posted at: 1/11/08 09:40 PM

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Lol @ people who think the movie was a dream.

But yeah, best fucking movie of the year. Hands down.

Deserves Best Picture.


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Posted at: 1/25/08 04:37 PM

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Pfff... Just watched the movie and I'm sooo dissapointed. Papers said it was better then Fargo. They lied.

The 'deep meaning' behind the movie was too fucking hard to get, and eventually destroyed the movie and turned it into a boring 'thriller'. Papers also said it was funny. Again, they lied.

Very dissapointed, I don't see what the big deal is about this movie. Coen Brother: better come up with a better movie next time.

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It is boring because you do not understand it.


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