...were things created by people who were dumb enough to get enlish majors so that they'd make themselves a job. If the author really wanted to tell the reader something, he'd write it out literally, not go all female on us and say something while meaning the other expecting everyone to understand.
I hate it when you have to do those stupid assignments in english class where you have to fill out a blank that says "Author's Purpose" you know what the author's purpose is? To tell a fucking story thats what, not give us some underlying theme that reveals the secret to our lives. Sure, there are books that make you think, and that is the intention of them, and they are advertised and promoted as such, but when you try and tell me that The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy truly has some hidden theme in it, I'm not buying. Why can't it be a normal, enjoyable story? Or does that make too much sense?
No, because Aesop wanted to write stories about the clouds and sun talking to each other to try and get a guy too fucking cold or too fucking hot, just because they felt like pulling his leg.
No morals or anything, honest.
Stories with an underlying meaning are to try and tell people morals and virtues, or to expose facets of human nature that we should address.
You're just too dim to understand, that's all.
But Aesops tales were presented as stories meant to have morals.
The funny thing about theme is how far some will go to tell others what it is.
Even if the disagreeing is the author.
Literature will almost always have themes and meanings. If you can't deal with that, watch reality tv.
Exactly what I'm trying to say. The only argument people have been able to keep alive towards this is by giving examples of books and stories that are meant to be taken as having a unerlying meaning, but some people will go out and quote the author who says something entirely different from what they say, and then end up contradicting themselves while trying to prove me (and several other people who agree with me) wrong.
At 12/1/07 11:08 PM, Itsa-Bouncing-Rock wrote: Exactly what I'm trying to say. The only argument people have been able to keep alive towards this is by giving examples of books and stories that are meant to be taken as having a unerlying meaning,
Fine. No examples. Writing literature is craft, a practice of discipline, within a set of limitations, to create. Intrinsic to writing, you have the structural limitations of grammar, syntax, etc (language things). Beyond that, you have limitations inherent in communication such as, relatability and implication. And then, you have an additional layer of theme and meaning, which does the extra job of justifying the work.
If you read a story without a point, you'd be complaining that it had no point, and probably disregarding it as literature.
but some people will go out and quote the author who says something entirely different from what they say, and then end up contradicting themselves while trying to prove me (and several other people who agree with me) wrong.
Then outline the contradiction for them, so they are aware of it and why it is a contradiction.
I do think some stories are ridiculously over analyzed, but most novels definitely have some level of theme behind the story.
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