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At 12/30/07 09:53 AM, InGenius wrote:

i bitch.

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Yeah..im sure hip-hop is a lot more complex than any other genre.
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and we don't try to put our musical preferences in the front...we just try to make that hip hop isn't considered a music genre =)...in fact..i don't even consider it "music".

and about the turntable guys..yes..ur right they don't play one damn instrument..that's why they r not musicians...what they do..is far away from art..just like hip hop. =).

and maybe U play all those instruments (a lot of instruments u putted there..probably u can't master them all so well cuz they r too many) but most of hip hop shitty producers and the ones who appear on TV don't.

so if u want to make that i consider hip-hop make it something musically more complex than some lyrics talking about how shitty is ur life and a loop playing over and over ¬¬.

At 12/30/07 10:29 AM, preffertobedead wrote:

stupid bullshit

im not here to argue but I feel the need to every time I see you post. First of all, your close minded, and keep talking shit about the ones on T.V and the shitty ones. Jurassic 5, Livin' Legends, Atmosphere.

since you obviously need a lesson, here is a definition of music

Music: The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.

Obviously, those would be considered musical rules, but the main point is that its the arrangement of sounds, with other aspects. You also say its not music but its also a loop? Contradict your self plz.

Anyways, thats my opinion. I realize your probably just sucking dick to take this piss. If your actually serious, then god help you.

if i hurt ur feelings cuz u felt identified with the things that i said then is not my problem..i said before i don't even consider music what i make..but i think i can tell what is music and what is not..i don't consider myself a "musician" but if u consider the bs of the hip hop producers "music" then GOD HELP U..i don't want that shit to be considered music and that my son thinks that the rapper's / hip-hoppers are "TEH BEST".

So if u Hip hop producers want to make better the so destroyed hip hop stereotype...then put all of urself to study some composition..cuz all i hear is bullcrap. And don't call me close minded, because the ppl who thinks like u are the ones who get to the TV and destroy the stereotype lately. If u want everyone to be so OPEN MINDED then the music in the future would be pure SHIT...

and don't tell me u have a "GREAT EAR" cuz that's what everyone who doesn't know nothing says.

and by the time u posted that i was at the beach below the sun..is summer here at Argentina..and that's just great!! =P.

now go and feel superior in some place else with ur OPEN MINDED way of thinking..

oh..and excuse my english..is not my native language yknow..=P

I hate hip hop.. I can't stand it and it makes my ears bleed.
people that like it must be people that never listen to REAL music.

At 12/30/07 04:46 PM, HumanIce wrote: I hate hip hop.. I can't stand it and it makes my ears bleed.
people that like it must be people that never listen to REAL music.

u say that cuz ppl degraded the stereotype but this guys that have posted here claim that they REALLY KNOW about hip hop and how to make from HIP HOP something beautiful and complex.

im still waiting being amazed...since the initiation of this style im waiting being amazed HAHA!.

At 12/30/07 04:40 PM, preffertobedead wrote: if i hurt ur feelings cuz u felt identified with the things that i said then is not my problem..i said before i don't even consider music what i make..but i think i can tell what is music and what is not..i don't consider myself a "musician" but if u consider the bs of the hip hop producers "music" then GOD HELP U..i don't want that shit to be considered music and that my son thinks that the rapper's / hip-hoppers are "TEH BEST".

So if u Hip hop producers want to make better the so destroyed hip hop stereotype...then put all of urself to study some composition..cuz all i hear is bullcrap. And don't call me close minded, because the ppl who thinks like u are the ones who get to the TV and destroy the stereotype lately. If u want everyone to be so OPEN MINDED then the music in the future would be pure SHIT...

and don't tell me u have a "GREAT EAR" cuz that's what everyone who doesn't know nothing says.

and by the time u posted that i was at the beach below the sun..is summer here at Argentina..and that's just great!! =P.

now go and feel superior in some place else with ur OPEN MINDED way of thinking..

oh..and excuse my english..is not my native language yknow..=P

Get your fucking words out of my mouth. I never said anything about your music, so dont bring it up. It's music, just because you don't like it, its fucking music. I dont consider 50 cent, soulja boy and all the other fake gimmicks out there "actual hip hop", I think they are pure shit, so dont think I am defending them.

You dont want your son to think hip-hop is great IN HIS OPINION. That's kind of harsh, but you'd be the parent not me. I do agree with you, alot of shit is bullshit and there are very few I can listen to.

And don't call me close minded, because the ppl who thinks like u are the ones who get to the TV and destroy the stereotype lately

what I meant by that was, broaden your searches, you only hear the garbage glam hip hop, like fiddy cent and his fucking ape crew. People like me? you don't know me or know what I like, thanks see ya good bye.

now go and feel superior in some place else with ur OPEN MINDED way of thinking..

I don't feel superior, I'm defending what I think is right, thanks see ya

I hardly hear the style of hip hop on ng that I wanna hear. I love hardcore beats. I like when they've got a thriving bass with a nice melody. I like rough lyrics. I prefer a crunk style like lil-jon I guess?

and for a link to all you haters'

GLITCH MOB

It's a sub-genre of hip hop, called glitch hop, but its still hip hop nonetheless. I'm not expecting you to like because its , HIP HOP. Listen to it. This conversation should end, atleast between me and you PTBD, it only boils to personal differences, so lets not attack peoples preferences. Agree to disagree?

Another good example, still glitch hop.

At 12/30/07 05:34 PM, glitchcore wrote: i bitch too.

haha! is ok u don't have to get so mad HAHA!!... ;)

these hip hopers are so funny xD!

i'm not a hip hopper

thx

At 12/30/07 05:34 PM, glitchcore wrote: atleast between me and you PTBD, it only boils to personal differences, so lets not attack peoples preferences. Agree to disagree?

of course everyone is free to think w/e the hell they want.

At 12/30/07 04:46 PM, HumanIce wrote: I hate hip hop.. I can't stand it and it makes my ears bleed.
people that like it must be people that never listen to REAL music.

Sup. I listen to Hip Hop. I also listen to Trance, DNB, Rock, Classical, Jazz, Metal, Electro, ect. I guess that I like Hip Hop because I never listen to real music.

hip hop sucks

At 12/30/07 07:45 PM, preffertobedead wrote: of course everyone is free to think w/e the hell they want.

Sorry just wanted to chime in here and say that this is the most cliched troll response ever. Stop feeding him you idiots.

For the people who thinks that Hip-Hop is all the same, take a listen to this : http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 11083

I'm not trying to promote my song, this is just so you can guys can see a different side to Hip-Hop in general.

If you can't consider this music, then you're fucked within the head. =D

At 12/31/07 12:25 AM, war-spawn wrote: For the people who thinks that Hip-Hop is all the same, take a listen to this : http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 11083

Yeah, it's nice man. I just don't like it when suddenly somebody starts "singing" his shit.
Just imagine you start out with that nice/calm mood, and then someone says: "Fuck...Yeah..Shit..huh..Fuck". It just ruins the song.
For example, cornandbeans composed a pretty good song that'll be used in castle crashers. And then some fag said: "omfg I think I can rap to this!" and BANG... a huge fuck up.

Lmao.. this arguement is still going on??

Well look.. "Heavy Metal sounds like compressed shit in a can" (that's not a compliment)

but you don't see me telling people how much I hate metal..

And it's funny how you people are stereotyping the situation TO THE MAX.

If that's the case.. lemme stereotype too..

Metal/Rock is for EMO's/Satan Worshipers
Techno is for Extacy users
Country just straight up sucks.

Ha.. you don't like what I said didn't you?? Your also probably saying what I said isn't true..
Well that's basically a good example of these crappy ass responses I see coming from you kids, "LAME ASS STEREOTYPE RESPONCES"... and yes I said kids.. cuz if you was gonna be more mature about the situation.. this topic would of ended already cuz somebody already hit the point 2-3 pages ago...

someone rule 10 all over this place and set it ablaze :P

At 12/31/07 06:48 AM, TheEyeOfMusiK wrote: Metal/Rock is for EMO's/Satan Worshipers
Techno is for Extacy users
Country just straight up sucks.

I like Metal but I'm not necessarily an emo. If I were I'd listen to emo. I also don't worship Satan.
I like Techno but I think all drugs are whack.
I hate Country but I don't bash it.

I like the amount of stereotypical and close-minded posts this thread gets. People just don't seem to respect opinions anymore. Stop being such dicks and shut up. Every genre has those who like it and those who hate it. Get used to it. Not everyone is going to have the same opinion as you.

At 12/31/07 05:57 PM, DSMagnum wrote:

nobody said that anyone would have the same opinion but, the ignorance is the new trend on NG. well in the AP anyway

At 12/31/07 05:57 PM, DSMagnum wrote: I like Metal but I'm not necessarily an emo. If I were I'd listen to emo. I also don't worship Satan.
I like Techno but I think all drugs are whack.
I hate Country but I don't bash it.

Are you stupid or something? His post was making an EXAMPLE.

Hhehehe...

hehe..

hehehee...

nobody's heeeeereee....

and its neeew years eeeeve...

looks left.

looks right

I DECLARE A FUCKING FORGEY!

At 12/31/07 07:52 PM, dorak wrote:

At 12/31/07 05:57 PM, DSMagnum wrote: I like Metal but I'm not necessarily an emo. If I were I'd listen to emo. I also don't worship Satan.
I like Techno but I think all drugs are whack.
I hate Country but I don't bash it.

Are you stupid or something? His post was making an EXAMPLE.

He said let me stereotypes as well, and I was just pointing out that he was doing a bad job. Seriously, are you stupid or something?

FORGEY DAMN YOU!

stomps on DSMagnum

Rule 10

At 12/31/07 08:28 PM, Chronamut wrote: FORGEY DAMN YOU!

stomps on DSMagnum

Lolzilla? Is that you?

This thread is fizzle, yo!

Happy New Years fuck this shit fuck the forum fuck this topic...let's all get wasted :)

Why not degrade it? Considering what it has evolved into in recent years, one is left to hope it dies out. Sadly, a catch beat, poorly crafted lyrics, and some ridiculous dance are all it takes to impress hip-hip listeners these days :(

At 1/1/08 03:41 AM, BenderTheRobot wrote: Why not degrade it? Considering what it has evolved into in recent years, one is left to hope it dies out. Sadly, a catch beat, poorly crafted lyrics, and some ridiculous dance are all it takes to impress hip-hip listeners these days :(

Dude, just shut up already! :D
You've heard poetic-raven, it's new years! Fuck this topic, it belongs to the past. Now it's 2008 and we all start over :D
:D

At 1/1/08 10:07 AM, Fuoco wrote:

At 1/1/08 03:41 AM, BenderTheRobot wrote: Why not degrade it? Considering what it has evolved into in recent years, one is left to hope it dies out. Sadly, a catch beat, poorly crafted lyrics, and some ridiculous dance are all it takes to impress hip-hip listeners these days :(

Dude, just shut up already! :D
You've heard poetic-raven, it's new years! Fuck this topic, it belongs to the past. Now it's 2008 and we all start over :D

D

he obviously doesn't know the rules of Forgey.

then again, oies have been banned from newgrounds ever since the new mods came along - they used t be quite rampant..

so I shall reiterate:

a forgey is declared when a thread has flamed for so long that it no longer has a purpose. It then desintegrates into people picking it apart until said thread is locked.