At 12/17/07 02:10 AM, Erkie wrote:
You're right, respecting music because it's music is the answer to all of our problems, just like the generalization respect human beings because they're human beings; helps to get more specific.
No, not quite. You don't respect music because it's music, because some music is terrible. But on the flip side, there's a lot of music that people don't respect because it doesn't suit their tastes. But just because it's a different genre to your tastes, it doesn't mean that it isn't good. It may be rubbish, but if you don't actually TRY to listen and appreciate other genres, you won't know if it's any good or not.
This MIGHT be because a lot of musicians nowdays are self taught and just play guitar or just compose techno stuff on FL, and they don't understand that hip hop music is made up of rhythms and melodies, harmonies and chords, which is the same things that make up their songs, they just use different guidelines to create the more specific hip hop sound. A lot of musicians may not pick up on that, but if you take in everything when you listen to a hip hop song, the drums, the phrasing, the lyrics and vocals, the different instruments, the ordering of the different sections, you can appreciate good music, regardless of genre, the bassline is the same, the construction is different, but the work is still there.
Have you even read the topic, or after a few posts you decided you'd unearthed a wise secret?
No, I didn't, not completely, but I've read through enough threads like this to understand what's going on. And I wouldn't really call it "unearthing a wise secret", as it's not really secret, is it. I'd call it ignorance of most people, judging a song before they've heard it, more people need to get more cultured with their understanding of the overall picture of music, and then there'd be less "why don't you like my music?!". I believe greeksta69 made a decent news post about improving the way we review audio.
Of course threads like these get nowhere, the question is why, so we can figure it out and end the idiocy.
So, you don't think me revealing my "wise secrets" will help change that? Do you think that I posted something other than "hip hop suxx!!!" just to stir up a shitstorm and get me some trolls on my back? No! I posted because I actually tried to contribute something decent to this thread, because the people flaming eachother clearly don't care about why ng degrades hip hop. They get under the skins of the hip hop artists and it spills over and they start going round in circles. If you know these threads go nowhere, then why do you post in them? It's because you want things to change, you want to stop the prejudice held against hip hop. Of course, I agree, but I assure you that these people won't change their mind all too soon because some people in a thread said so, and followed it up by flaming the flamers back.
I'm all for equality, here on NG, but I don't have my fingers crossed that everything will be fine and dandy in time for Christmas. I'm just putting out my ideas that most people in here are fighting an argument that neither can win, and I'll be happy if anyone takes note of what I said and tries to be more considerate in the future.