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Overpopulation was proposed by a racist named Malthus, who said we should let people die because in the end everyone will die in a period where there's no resources left, also called the "crunch". Really, it's bullshit because there's historical proof that the population levels itself with resources...It just happens naturally.

There are ways to improve or continue a high standard of living while reducing our environmental footprint, agreed. But I think it's unrealistic to expect cutting-edge green technology in still developing nations / economies. Green technology plays a role in the developed world reducing our consumption, making temporary room for large footprints from, say, Africa & Asia, which can then be re-focused later. This could be speeded greatly by 1st world support for the 3rd with said technologies. China's becoming a huge coal consumer. Why? It's cheap and readily available. Open up a better alternative and they'll bite. So following through with the thought - we need to further research into better, renewable forms of energy and green technology related to food + water use + consumption. And then we need to share the technology.

K, there's a solution. Don't know how realistic it is to expect on a large scale.

At 11/25/07 12:17 AM, DariusR wrote: Overpopulation was proposed by a racist named Malthus, who said we should let people die because in the end everyone will die in a period where there's no resources left, also called the "crunch". Really, it's bullshit because there's historical proof that the population levels itself with resources...It just happens naturally.

That's true on a small scale, however what about the depletion of resources on a global scale? There is no historical example here, as far as I know.

At 11/25/07 12:26 AM, RedSkunk wrote:

At 11/25/07 12:17 AM, DariusR wrote: Overpopulation was proposed by a racist named Malthus, who said we should let people die because in the end everyone will die in a period where there's no resources left, also called the "crunch". Really, it's bullshit because there's historical proof that the population levels itself with resources...It just happens naturally.

That's true on a small scale, however what about the depletion of resources on a global scale? There is no historical example here, as far as I know.

Look at what happened in Midevil Europe, where about half the worlds population existed in, famine struck towards the end of the era and people were dying from a lack of food. Eventually bubonic plague struck and killed half the population, decreasing the famine...

At 11/25/07 12:32 AM, DariusR wrote: Look at what happened in Midevil Europe, where about half the worlds population existed in, famine struck towards the end of the era and people were dying from a lack of food. Eventually bubonic plague struck and killed half the population, decreasing the famine...

So you're saying famine and plague are the best way to deal with overpopulation should it exist?

I think we've advanced in the last 500 years enough to realize such a problem, and hopefully to nip it in the bud before the whole famine bit.