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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2014-10-27 21:42:42 Reply

why don't I add to this thread ha
https://instaud.io/2Ml

any ideas appreciated

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Hi here is just a short soul track I´m working at for a soundtrack. Somebody got some advice. Yep, I know the drums should be more variable (it´s just quick and dirty):

  • Riding on a hometrainer
    Riding on a hometrainer by Azhthar

    Work in progress: A soul track I made for a soundtrack I´m working on

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2014-11-17 19:39:39 Reply

  • Dressed To Kill
    Dressed To Kill by Quarl

    Bitch I came.

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Dressed to kill. Heavy DNB :3


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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2014-11-18 23:25:44 Reply

At 11/17/14 07:39 PM, Quarl wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/593431
Dressed to kill. Heavy DNB :3

I reviewed it for youz:

I really should have taken your word when you said heavy DnB. Wow.

It took me a while to get a feel for the rhythm and melody because it seemed a little obscure at first, in my opinion. You might have been able to add more character to the voice in some parts if you known what I mean. Like around 1:13. I think you could add some dynamic (Not musical dynamic, but character dynamic) to the voice. It just kinda sounds monotone; but if that's what you're going for then you could consider making it more robotic-like instead. For such an intense song having a monotone, non-robotic voice without character kinda interferes with the whole mood you're creating. I think you've created that intense, chaotic and evil mood that's created with typical DnB. I really like it so far and Front Page is nothing to scoff at. Just a few suggestions from me is all.

It's a great song and I'm sure it'll be amazing in the end. Keep going!

Onto my song. I've remixed Cortez's battle theme from "Paper Mario: TTYD". It's about done I just feel that in some sections, the melodies work against each other rather than with each other. In the song, I've also created a custom bridge that uses my own melody. I would appreciate feedback so I can finish it and post it! If you need a refresher of what Cortez's original theme sounds like so you can make a comparison, I know for a fact you can find it on Youtube.
Anyway, here's mine:

  • Cortez's Revenge
    Cortez's Revenge by Yeelp

    Remix of Cortez's battle theme from "Paper Mario: TTYD"

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All mah audio --> Right here.

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2014-11-19 09:49:15 Reply

At 11/18/14 11:25 PM, Yeelp wrote:
stuff

And suddenly I realized I posted this in the wrong thread. I was aiming for the audio adverts. How in the name of Thor did I mess this one up? I'll look at a couple of tracks this morning to make up for my faux pas.


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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2014-11-19 14:12:03 Reply

At 11/17/14 11:35 AM, Azhthar wrote: Hi here is just a short soul track I´m working at for a soundtrack. Somebody got some advice. Yep, I know the drums should be more variable (it´s just quick and dirty):
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/593397

It seems to be a nice start! Just a few recommendations...

-The Organ rotation seems a bit fast, try going with something just a bit slower if possible (I know that this can be tricky, but the rotation just seems very fast to me)
-Fatten the chords a bit more on the organ. It seems to be based on just right hand playing at the moment, but adding some low end would make the track fuller
-The track starts quite abruptly (which is fine) but I think the tune could use a build up into the groove you start here (though I'm sure it has it's place in your score)
-In terms of chord rhythmic choice, I feel like the chords are being choked a bit. You can use some of the room you are using for quick notes to let the chords ring out a bit.
-When you get to drum fills/comping (kind of like you have at :42) it might be cool to add a bass line that goes in conjunction with the percussion part you have written.
-I know you know of the simplicity of the drums at the moment, but I can definitely hear you adding a few tasteful placements of the jazz ride swing in and out of the track too.

If you don't mind me asking, which VSTs were you using for the drums and sax? The sax lines sounded very smooth and controlled imo, and the brush drums were also awesome. Please let me know, if they are free I'll definitely have to download em! (Even if they are paid, they might be do-able)

Again, nice job mate! You don't have to follow my recommendations at all keep in mind, but hopefully you'll consider them and they at least gave you a different perspective on the tune.

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2014-11-19 14:46:00 Reply

At 9/1/14 02:32 AM, daredevil424 wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/586458
I mostly would like a review on the small amount of drums I have in this song. You may review the piece as a whole of course but I would like to know if I'm going in the right direction with the drums.

Hey daredevil!

I'm going to try to stick to the musicality of the percussion instead of getting into the mixing etc here.

You are heading in the right direction! That's for sure. Another reviewer mentioned the usefulness of programs like ezdrummer, and I've seen progress since then in your track with added vocals. The drums stand out much better there :) a little compression can go a long way!

I might recommend something which might be of use... Low toms, to give a bit more variety to the percussion playing. The kick drum fill at 1:17 could be played with a low tom as opposed to double bass. It can be useful for adding more intricate fills. Also at :41, I could totally picture a blast beat to accompany the guitar riffage you have going on.

The breaks you have starting at around 1:05 are leaving a bit too much open space. *dugadundundidun* with an open high hat to hook back into the beat might work better. Try to be mindful of the skill level of an intermediate level drummer. If you think they might bet bored playing the parts, it might be time to change them up a little bit.

For vocals, I think you could even go with a layered scream to make it more intense. That's what the majority of screamers I'm familiar with do anyway, so you might want to give it a shot! Will make the vocals have a better punch. Just pan one hard left, the other hard right.

Hopefully this advice helped you out just a bit :D Keep it up man!

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2014-11-20 07:11:23 Reply

Thx a lot for the feedback! Unfortunately the drums and the sax aren´t for free but they are really effordable in my oppinion. The sax is the "sensual saxophone" by embertone and is just 20$. Unfortunately you need the full version of NI kontakt otherwise you have to restart the instrument every 15 mins. The "Sensual Sax" is not perfekt and you still hear it´s a midi instruement but it´s much cheaper than to get a sax from samplelogic for 200€ and it has this unique soul sound ;) The drum kit is the "DrumTasteBrush" by acousticsamples. It´s 55€ on their homepage and comes with the free UVI player. I really like the drumsound and use it for nearly all my drum tracks, so I think it was definitely worth the money. You also don´t need an Ilok anymore for their stuff but you have to install some ILok software on your computer. The only thing is that the UVI workstation is quite buggy and produces a crash once in a while...
Good idea to fatten the organ chords and I´ll also try to play with the rotations.
The aprupt start is because the track starts on the cut of a scene, thus an intro would be problematic. Maybe I will make another full version outside the film...
On the drums I already worked a bit (mainly did some more fills). I try to post the new version when it´s done.
Thx again ;)

At 11/19/14 02:12 PM, frootza wrote:
At 11/17/14 11:35 AM, Azhthar wrote: Hi here is just a short soul track I´m working at for a soundtrack. Somebody got some advice. Yep, I know the drums should be more variable (it´s just quick and dirty):
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/593397
It seems to be a nice start! Just a few recommendations...

-The Organ rotation seems a bit fast, try going with something just a bit slower if possible (I know that this can be tricky, but the rotation just seems very fast to me)
-Fatten the chords a bit more on the organ. It seems to be based on just right hand playing at the moment, but adding some low end would make the track fuller
-The track starts quite abruptly (which is fine) but I think the tune could use a build up into the groove you start here (though I'm sure it has it's place in your score)
-In terms of chord rhythmic choice, I feel like the chords are being choked a bit. You can use some of the room you are using for quick notes to let the chords ring out a bit.
-When you get to drum fills/comping (kind of like you have at :42) it might be cool to add a bass line that goes in conjunction with the percussion part you have written.
-I know you know of the simplicity of the drums at the moment, but I can definitely hear you adding a few tasteful placements of the jazz ride swing in and out of the track too.

If you don't mind me asking, which VSTs were you using for the drums and sax? The sax lines sounded very smooth and controlled imo, and the brush drums were also awesome. Please let me know, if they are free I'll definitely have to download em! (Even if they are paid, they might be do-able)

Again, nice job mate! You don't have to follow my recommendations at all keep in mind, but hopefully you'll consider them and they at least gave you a different perspective on the tune.
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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-06 14:18:04 Reply

I was thinking about adding drums to this experimental "song" that I was working on. Just any suggestions or changes I should make before the next is made?
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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-06 14:27:38 Reply

At 3/6/15 02:18 PM, Mouse-Pet wrote: I was thinking about adding drums to this experimental "song" that I was working on. Just any suggestions or changes I should make before the next is made?
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I got an idea here but not sure if you'll implement it or not.

Anyway, I like how the guitar starts off mono. Perhaps after a couple of bars you introduce stereo instruments and drums to make the song a bit more interesting? :)

I thought of many genres this could go into like reggae and dubstep, but its up to you!

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-06 14:55:56 Reply

At 3/6/15 02:27 PM, DL2Electron wrote:
At 3/6/15 02:18 PM, Mouse-Pet wrote: I was thinking about adding drums to this experimental "song" that I was working on. Just any suggestions or changes I should make before the next is made?
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I got an idea here but not sure if you'll implement it or not.

Anyway, I like how the guitar starts off mono. Perhaps after a couple of bars you introduce stereo instruments and drums to make the song a bit more interesting? :)

I thought of many genres this could go into like reggae and dubstep, but its up to you!

Aw yeah thanks man. I plan on remixing it with something other than audacity so I have more control over the space the sound takes up. Does that even make sense? I wanna try and add in bass as well. I'm not sure.

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-06 15:22:33 Reply

At 3/6/15 02:55 PM, Mouse-Pet wrote: Aw yeah thanks man. I plan on remixing it with something other than audacity so I have more control over the space the sound takes up. Does that even make sense? I wanna try and add in bass as well. I'm not sure.

Give the bass some plastic surgery with a flanger or chorus. But don't make it completely stereo if that makes sense!

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-06 15:24:50 Reply

Give the bass some plastic surgery with a flanger or chorus. But don't make it completely stereo if that makes sense!

Aw yeah that actually sounds amazing. Thank you

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-08 08:51:51 Reply

Finally, somewhere on the internet to get opinions before finalising.
Anyone want to take a listen to this:

  • Friction
    Friction by Batteredburrito

    new track by myself

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Could use the feedback, both positive and negative would be great!

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-08 14:51:33 Reply

At 3/6/15 02:27 PM, DL2Electron wrote:
I thought of many genres this could go into like reggae and dubstep, but its up to you!

Reggae dude. Definitely slow i t a bit and make a reggae track with a bit of dub influence. (not dubstep; dub)


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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-08 15:20:32 Reply

Trying to learn this theme by Ear, is it accurate? Just barely started, what do you guy's think so far. Appreciate it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcSIdZg9OFA&feature=youtu.be

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-20 13:39:46 Reply

It would be nice to get some input here: I was supposed to create a short (20s) demo for a kind of cyber thriller. The music was supposed to be electronic, minimalistic and ambient. It should on the one hand sustain suspense while on the other hand it should not be distractive, stressful or full of action... It´s a bit more than 20s now, because I repeated it for better looping. Does anybody have some suggestions for me here? Every comment, idea or criticism is very welcome. What about the mixing and mastering? Thanks a lot ;)
You find the track here:

  • The network (WIP)
    The network (WIP) by Azhthar

    Short ambiental work in progress loop for cyberthriller

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Response to Works In Progress Advice Thread! 2015-03-21 15:03:09 Reply

Help me please. I have no idea how I should sing this song. I've tried a few things on approaching the chorus, but it just doesn't work so far.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/614822?updated=1


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