Neighbor shoots and kills robbers.

[Syphonik]

This article is about some guy in Texas who shot two and killed two burglars robbing his neighbors house. Now the problem is that the burglars posed no actual threat to the man, which is why he is on trial for the murder of the two as of now. I really don't know what to think about this one, since as I said before, they posed no threat to the neighbor. But then again, residents of Texas have the right to do so if the they feel they have the legal duty to do so, as stated in the article.

So, what do you think about this one, fellow posters?

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[Phantox]

I thought you could shoot someone that was trespassing in your property and carrying a weapon at the same time.

[unownedJR]

id shoot the people who trespass on that thar property

one time i got robbed, and the guy had a knife, so if i caught him, he might of stabbed me. so i would have shot him

[Zerok]

Mannnnn that is sketchy. Real sketchy.

I'm inclined to lean on the side of the shooter, just from what I've read. His fate may highly be decided by the attitude of the homeowner.

The problem is: how far do you set the limits? What if you catch theives running out of a building while you're strolling down the street (with your gun... hmm).

At 11/21/07 01:38 PM, Phantox wrote: I thought you could shoot someone that was trespassing in your property and carrying a weapon at the same time.

Read the damn article, or at least the post and you'd realize that that wasn't the case. At all.

[Papo]

Lol he was from my country.

[Syphonik]

At 11/21/07 01:38 PM, Phantox wrote: I thought you could shoot someone that was trespassing in your property and carrying a weapon at the same time.

The two weren't trespassing on the guys property, and they posed no real threat to the guy either.

The operator was even extremely calm and repeated to him that the police were on the way.

[CaveyMc-fat]

At 11/21/07 01:43 PM, PapoSwing wrote: Lol he was from my country.

yes... alot of us are from the USA

[Phantox]

At 11/21/07 01:42 PM, Zerok wrote:

Read the damn article, or at least the post and you'd realize that that wasn't the case. At all.

I did. He was defending his neighbor who was about to get robbed and probably hurt. If that was not the case, then what was?

[Zerok]

At 11/21/07 01:51 PM, Phantox wrote: I did. He was defending his neighbor who was about to get robbed and probably hurt. If that was not the case, then what was?

But that's not what you typed. You also invented something about a weapon too.

[Phantox]

At 11/21/07 01:52 PM, Zerok wrote:

At 11/21/07 01:51 PM, Phantox wrote: I did. He was defending his neighbor who was about to get robbed and probably hurt. If that was not the case, then what was?

But that's not what you typed. You also invented something about a weapon too.

Yes I did say that what I meant to say by it was that they could have hidden it under their clothing and then hurt the guy's neighbor. IMO, I think the guy that shot the other guys shouldn't have killed them just shot them in their legs or somewhere else but not killed them.

[All-Hallows]

I thought it was legal to shoot once they cross the threshold into your house.

[Zerok]

At 11/21/07 01:55 PM, Phantox wrote: Yes I did say that what I meant to say by it was that they could have hidden it under their clothing and then hurt the guy's neighbor.

...English must not be your first language or something. Anyway, it seems arguing with you is pointless, onto discussion:

IMO, I think the guy that shot the other guys shouldn't have killed them just shot them in their legs or somewhere else but not killed them.

Whether he was shooting to kill or not isn't made clear from the article. One guy was shot in the side though and died shortly after. I suppose at the range that the shooter was at it was possible to aim for the legs. I'd imagine that when you're in that sort of situation it's not really easy to make seemingly easy calculations.

[Papo]

At 11/21/07 01:49 PM, CaveyMc-fat wrote:

At 11/21/07 01:43 PM, PapoSwing wrote: Lol he was from my country.

yes... alot of us are from the USA

Dumbass look at my profile.

[Lorkas]

Hardcore

[Reaperyami]

What's pissing me off about this is the Black Panthers. Every time a black person is killed they always show up and say it was Racially fueled. They need to back the fuck off. Though the guy is guilty he doesn't need jail time, he was just protecting his neighbor's house.

Even though the dispatcher repeatedly told him not to go outside...

[Gunter45]

"The Texas Penal Code says a person can use force or deadly force to defend someone else's property if he reasonably believes he has a legal duty to do so or the property owner had requested his protection."

The man knew that the homeowners were not home and he knew that the police would not get there in time. He told the burglars to stop and they didn't. I'd say that he could reasonably believe he has the right to protect his neighbor. How else is he going to stop them? An older man is not going to detain two 30 year old men with his hands. He had a gun, he told them to stop, they didn't. He's just going to let them make off with his neighbor's stuff and let the police handle it, even though they couldn't even identify the nationality of one of the burglars post-mortem? Fuck that.

[Krazy-Rex]

So if he did not have a weapon but his fists. What will happen? Is there any right to kill him if you see him rob your property. And I read same kind of article about 3 teens killed a old man while robbing a apartment our something like that.

[Cyberdevil]

At 11/21/07 01:37 PM, Syphonik wrote: So, what do you think about this one, fellow posters?

I think killing them was a bit harsh, he could have tried just shooting them in the legs or reasoning with them before pulling the trigger. :P

[Leeko]

I remember seeing that on the news last night.

[Aggro4j00]

At 11/21/07 01:56 PM, Mendou wrote: This is sufficient proof as to why all citizens from Texas need to be killed, every single one of them.

wow aren't you awesome and witty, i hope i see you robbing my neighbor's house one day

^^^ from texas

[Legionnaire-X]

Maybe he should have aimed lower.

[Shadow4102]

he had full right to do that, neighbors need to have eachothers backs, killing them was a little over the limit, but i probably would have done the same givin the oppurtinity

[CerpinTaxt]

Before I even clicked the thread link on the BBS, I thought:

"Hm, I wonder if the guy is from Texas."

And then I read the first line of the post...

[Joe]

I'll never get tired of that 911 call.

Operator: You're gonna get yourself shot if you go outside of that house with a gun.
Caller: You wanna make a bet?!

[MadCow]

The Bible says "Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself" and Religious bullshit enough to hold up in Texas Court, right?

In my opinion, he did the right thing, I don't see how being a vigilante is wrong when you're actually helping people. Why the hell should he just let his neighbors house get robbed when he has a chance to stop them?

[matrix2000190]

he should get a medal or something cuz he was only helping his neighbor instead of just letting him be robbed

[TropicalParadise]

At 11/21/07 04:27 PM, matrix2000190 wrote: he should get a medal or something cuz he was only helping his neighbor instead of just letting him be robbed

I was JUST about to post this, and you happened to be last post.

He should be given a medal and commended.

He TRIED to do the whole law-abiding thing, he called the police, but the police were not going to get there fast enough, they woud not have done anything. The people would have gotten away and they would have been free.

If more people were like him, the world would be a better place.

[PlatinumWarrior]

Should be legal to slaughter the inferior. This man deserves an award.

[stafffighter]

At 11/22/07 10:34 AM, TropicalParadise wrote:

At 11/21/07 04:27 PM, matrix2000190 wrote: he should get a medal or something cuz he was only helping his neighbor instead of just letting him be robbed

I was JUST about to post this, and you happened to be last post.

Now I have two of you to destroy.

He TRIED to do the whole law-abiding thing, he called the police, but the police were not going to get there fast enough, they woud not have done anything. The people would have gotten away and they would have been free.

The police were on their way. With the proximity they had along with a vehicle description they would have most likely been apprehended. What he was doing was attempting to establish an allabi. And in doing so he shot himself in the foot, figurativly.

If more people were like him, the world would be a better place.

Did you listen to that call? he spent the entire call practically begging the officer to let him go shoot them. He was out for blood. Yes they were stealing things but he could have waited for the cops or held them at gunpoint. Breaking and entering is not an exicutable offence. The man was in no danger. He is a murderer

[ProBo]

Thats what happens when you try to rob someone in Texas..... My neighbor brought over his shotgun when a bunch of black people ran into my back yard..... loaded ad ready to kill... god i love it here