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Anarchy doesn't exist, it's not real, infact it probably would take more effort to stustain an anarchy than any other government.

You may be able to get rid of formal governmental leaders, but leaders will crop up who organize projects that people need. You might be illusioned with the idea that the government is nothing more than the president and congress that goes around raising the price of oil and waging wars.

1) Every Municiple resource given to you is spearheaded by the government.
2) Construction projects, Fixing roads, buildings, improving communities, infrastructure, even if this was done by a private buisness, the private buisness needs a leader, since this private buisness does things for the community [Technically] they become the government, even if you don't consider it to be one.
3) Police forces do more than just beat up old people, tazer them, and kill them. When a Traffic light breaks down, who's going to dirrect traffic? you?
If you Fall and injure yourself, who's going to come to your aid, even if you have family members, how many of them are trained in emergency medicine? If somone robs a bank?

All of these things could be done by private buisnesses, but consider the fact that whoever leads these organizations is number 1, probably going to have to do it for profit since they can't collect money in taxes, and number 2, they ARE THE GOVERNMENT they control affairs in society.

I have to go to sleep, but you get the idea.

You need a government, you can make it small or big, autocratic or inneificiently decentralized, usually the more efficient governments win out the same way the strongest and most efficient specie survives, but either way, the government does things that can't be done by individuals, only by a group of people.

if you want anarchy, then live somewhere on the countryside and set up an independent farm where you can support yourself and your family, that's as close to anarchy as you'll get. But since you run your own affairs, you become your own government.

At 11/19/07 09:48 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:
if you want anarchy, then live somewhere on the countryside and set up an independent farm where you can support yourself and your family, that's as close to anarchy as you'll get. But since you run your own affairs, you become your own government.

Which is my (unattainable) dream.

although I imagine my own island **sighhhhhhhhhhh**

Well this post has gotten stale...well it was fun. Thanks for your comments ecspecially to Jokeen who wouldn't stop bugging me with pms....

At 11/18/07 11:13 PM, therealsylvos wrote:

ok, in this situation I'm sure there will be natural ways to say who is qualified. if you are still alive, you are qualified.

Group A says they're the police. Group B says they're the police. Fights break out, and no one is safer as a result.

tough luck man, what do you want from me?

Okay so you have massive homeless rates, and what for?

When was the last time someone invaded switzerland?

That's irrelevant. You don't think America has enimies?

It is in anyone who travels on the road to fix a pothole, eventually when there is a big enough need it will get fixed.

Why though? How does this benefit the nation?

Whatever someone is willing to work for is what he should be paid brah.

Oh okay so huge companies get rich while the majority go without?

I don't see the point.

goverment is neccisary, has'nt anybody seen "black hawk down".

At 11/21/07 01:46 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 11/18/07 11:13 PM, therealsylvos wrote:

ok, in this situation I'm sure there will be natural ways to say who is qualified. if you are still alive, you are qualified.

Group A says they're the police. Group B says they're the police. Fights break out, and no one is safer as a result.

eventually one group will be victorious and no one will challenge their authority.

tough luck man, what do you want from me?

Okay so you have massive homeless rates, and what for?

You want me to house them?

When was the last time someone invaded switzerland?

That's irrelevant. You don't think America has enimies?

Wait you think Switzerland hasn't had enemies?

It is in anyone who travels on the road to fix a pothole, eventually when there is a big enough need it will get fixed.

Why though? How does this benefit the nation?

Eh what nation?

Whatever someone is willing to work for is what he should be paid brah.

Oh okay so huge companies get rich while the majority go without?

I don't see the point.

Um huge companies can't get huge without providing lots of jobs.

You have to understand that I understand that it is not really feasible, and anarchy is not sustainable, however from a philosophic standpoint it is the best kind of way to live, even if it an unattainable pipe dream.

lol i remember black hawk down but i cant remember the plot to that movie?

At 11/21/07 01:59 PM, therealsylvos wrote:

You have to understand that I understand that it is not really feasible, and anarchy is not sustainable, however from a philosophic standpoint it is the best kind of way to live, even if it an unattainable pipe dream.

I'm not trying to criticise your opinion here, but I don't actually understand the appeal of anarchy, so um, what is it?

At 11/23/07 08:00 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

I'm not trying to criticise your opinion here, but I don't actually understand the appeal of anarchy, so um, what is it?

Well for one you don't get pricks telling what color you have to paint your house, or how often you have to mow your lawn.

At 11/18/07 06:04 PM, Ubernaut wrote: Should We Have A Goverment? Yah I know its kinda a dumb Question But Seriouly....

No. We should not. I would encourage you to not assume that one is necessary for a few minutes and go to mises.org and read up a little. Or simplyanarchy.com

At 11/18/07 08:19 PM, OrbitalDebris wrote: Where ever there are two people, there is a power heirachry.

This is ridiculous. This is to say that no two people may ever get along peacefully or that they will not without the oversight of a third. This can be proven to be ludicrous in everyday life.

At 11/18/07 06:04 PM, Ubernaut wrote: Yah I know its kinda a dumb Question But Seriouly....

If you know it's a dumb idea, then why did you make a thread about it? For fuck's sake, use what the Good Lord saw fit to sparingly give you.

At 11/19/07 06:19 PM, bluedemonspeedracer wrote: Here is more information on what life is like in complete anarchy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/401714 7.stm

and here is the truth without the UK/US/UN slant!

http://www.mises.org/story/2066

http://www.mises.org/story/2701

At 11/18/07 06:04 PM, Ubernaut wrote: Should We Have A Goverment? Yah I know its kinda a dumb Question But Seriouly....

It is good to have a good system of government run by good people that have a real sense of serving others and not simply themselves.
You can't avoid some type of system; people naturally follow others, they naturally group together. The only way there would be no existence or need of a governing system is if everyone, and i mean everyone everywhere, lived for one another in wisdom.
Let's face it that's not going to happen. So we need protectors, we need people to make good worthwhile decisions.

There really isn't anything bad about any system of government; it just gets screwed up when you have either stupid or selfish people in the leading roles. Because stupid and selfish people make stupid and selfish decisions which cops out any possibility of neccesary or good changes or implementation.

In that regard democracy is an interesting thing. Because it puts the power of putting good or bad leaders in charge in the hands of the masses. So we really only have ourselves to blame when it comes to the failures of our government.

At 11/19/07 04:24 AM, Sajberhippien wrote: I'd like to point out that lack of government isn't equal to anarchy; You could have a society with for example direct democracy and no government where there would still be laws, social security, and everything like that.

Remember that a communism, when in place, has no government, for example.

I have no idea why no one responded to you. This was the best post in the thread. Before organized government we still had societies with laws, social security, and defense. Read about hunter-gatherer societies. This was communism.

But then came specialization of labor. And specialization begets inequality. And inequality?

"But the reality is.. The police become necessary in human society only at that junction in human society where it is split between those who have and those who ain't got."
-- Omali Yeshitela

I believe inequality is inherent in a society with specialization of labor, therefor government to be necessary in this day and age.